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People who drive through a 40mph zone at 30. But then when you reach a 30 or even 20 zone continue at exactly the same speed...are they on autopilot? AND this 'careful' driver didn't even indicate on 2 roundabouts, I better not get stuck behind them tonight!

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I've seen agencies charging 30% of total annual package of new person for placing them, usually payable long before the person has even completed their probation period.

 

Yup.

 

Want me to name some charities that use the services of such agencies?  Thus paying out £20,000 on a £60,000 salary post?


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People who drive through a 40mph zone at 30. But then when you reach a 30 or even 20 zone continue at exactly the same speed...are they on autopilot? AND this 'careful' driver didn't even indicate on 2 roundabouts, I better not get stuck behind them tonight!

 

If I were a copper I'd do 'em for driving without due care and attention - obviously oblivious to the speed limit signs. 


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If I were a copper I'd do 'em for driving without due care and attention - obviously oblivious to the speed limit signs.

Precisely, carrying on oblivious to the situations.

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People who drive through a 40mph zone at 30. But then when you reach a 30 or even 20 zone continue at exactly the same speed...are they on autopilot? AND this 'careful' driver didn't even indicate on 2 roundabouts, I better not get stuck behind them tonight!

Gah this drives me insane.  It must be autopilot, not one part of their brain is paying any attention to driving. 

 

Worse than this for me is a local single carriage way.  The speed limit is 60. There are two speed cameras on it between our town and the next.  On a daily basis I am travelling behind a driver who sees the camera and SLAMS on the brakes and slows down to either 40 or worse 30.  How did these people pass the test?


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Yup.

 

Want me to name some charities that use the services of such agencies?  Thus paying out £20,000 on a £60,000 salary post?

Indeed, fairly common from what I have seen and from junior roles up to very senior levels at 6 figure salaries, all for passing on a CV or two.

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Yup.

Want me to name some charities that use the services of such agencies? Thus paying out £20,000 on a £60,000 salary post?

Many years ago now an agency organised an interview for me so along I go. It's going well until the question "what sort of salary would you be looking for?"

"£20K" I reply, being prepared to go down to 18 if necessary.

"Oh we were thinking in the region of 12"

"I'm worth 20" I reply.

Anyway I didn't get it and the agency weren't happy with me, tough, I got a position at £22K a couple of weeks later.


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The worst employment agency story I have is of one bloke who wanted to charge me an introduction fee for a potential employer that I met when attending a training course! I of course told him where to go in no uncertain terms - he replied by threatening to get me blacklisted in the quite small, close knit Business Intelligence contractor world. It's no surprise that he is known as Tricky Dicky (a pretty close play on his actual name) in the trade.


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The worst employment agency story I have is of one bloke who wanted to charge me an introduction fee for a potential employer that I met when attending a training course! I of course told him where to go in no uncertain terms - he replied by threatening to get me blacklisted in the quite small, close knit Business Intelligence contractor world. It's no surprise that he is known as Tricky Dicky (a pretty close play on his actual name) in the trade.

I had one agency take some permanent adverts I'd put through the NHS Jobs portal, advertise them themselves, get the very narrow niche skills individuals who might be tempted to apply interested with promises of excessive salaries, send me their CVs and follow it with a notice that they'd "introduced" these candidates to us therefore we could no longer hire them through NHS Jobs without paying their introduction fee.  They did much like with you and get all blustery about suing if we dared not pay them the money despite us having no contract with them and the advert specifically stating that the role is not eligible for being filled by agency candidates.  They stopped contacting me at that point but I did receive a LinkedIn request from the recruiter asking me to become a contact.

 

It did one thing though, it added an extra name to my "avoid" list for decent agencies in future.


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There are some people on this forum who would make the Dalai Lama swear.


“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime" - Mark Twain

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I had one agency take some permanent adverts I'd put through the NHS Jobs portal, advertise them themselves, get the very narrow niche skills individuals who might be tempted to apply interested with promises of excessive salaries, send me their CVs and follow it with a notice that they'd "introduced" these candidates to us therefore we could no longer hire them through NHS Jobs without paying their introduction fee.  They did much like with you and get all blustery about suing if we dared not pay them the money despite us having no contract with them and the advert specifically stating that the role is not eligible for being filled by agency candidates.  They stopped contacting me at that point but I did receive a LinkedIn request from the recruiter asking me to become a contact.

 

It did one thing though, it added an extra name to my "avoid" list for decent agencies in future.

 

I enjoy being contacted by the 'head hunters' who list themselves on Linkedin as having extensive experience in recruiting clinical professionals and that they strive to always find the right role for the individual....then you notice that they graduated from university 3 months ago and this is their first proper job (apart from working weekends at BHS and a paper-round)

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People who drive through a 40mph zone at 30. But then when you reach a 30 or even 20 zone continue at exactly the same speed...are they on autopilot? AND this 'careful' driver didn't even indicate on 2 roundabouts, I better not get stuck behind them tonight!

Driving slow is as dangerous at times as driving fast IMO because of the way it influences other drivers. I often point out that you are marked down on your test for not aiming to get up to the speed limit.

I know somebody who doesn't indicate but actually said good drivers will know where he's going.

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Driving slow is as dangerous at times as driving fast IMO because of the way it influences other drivers. I often point out that you are marked down on your test for not aiming to get up to the speed limit.

I know somebody who doesn't indicate but actually said good drivers will know where he's going.

On that subject, a hell is reserved for people who drive cars slower than HGVs on dual/triple carriageway national speed limit roads.  An especially Katie Hopkins and Piers Morgan hell for those who do so at rush hour.  An even deeper Katie and Piers love scene for eternity hell for those who refuse to move out of the fast lane while driving at slower speeds than HGVs.

 

Also, HGVs who take over a mile to overtake another HGV, especially at rush hour.  The worst I had was one overtaking the same HGV for nearly five miles, moving forward on flats and downhill bits but going backwards in comparison on even slight inclines.


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On that subject, a hell is reserved for people who drive cars slower than HGVs on dual/triple carriageway national speed limit roads. An especially Katie Hopkins and Piers Morgan hell for those who do so at rush hour. An even deeper Katie and Piers love scene for eternity hell for those who refuse to move out of the fast lane while driving at slower speeds than HGVs.

Also, HGVs who take over a mile to overtake another HGV, especially at rush hour. The worst I had was one overtaking the same HGV for nearly five miles, moving forward on flats and downhill bits but going backwards in comparison on even slight inclines.

The A40 good for that particular trick; some of them can keep it up for mile after mile with no perceptible progress.


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How to interpret car indicators:

1. The left indicator. If this is flashing, it means that it's flashing.

2. The right indicator. IF this is flashing, it means it's flashing.

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How to interpret car indicators:

1. The left indicator. If this is flashing, it means that it's flashing.

2. The right indicator. IF this is flashing, it means it's flashing.

Too many people think like this and it's just wrong. If a car indicator is flashing then that's a risk flag that a trained driver can interpret. It's not an absolute signal of intent, it's a flag that the vehicle may do something.

Drivers who don't indicate when they should are cretins who deserve no courtesy on the road at all.


“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime" - Mark Twain

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Exactly. Best bet is for people to read and follow the highway code. Seen too many situations where people have wrongly interpreted someone else's signals. ..or lack of signals. Signal only when pedestrians or other road users in front, behind or at the side can benefit. Don't signal if there is no one to see it as it's just one more task to carry out when manoeuvring.

My rant is about all those people who think they have nothing to learn when it comes to driving, despite changes in best practice, legislation, vehicle technology, road signs, markings etc.

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Driving slow is as dangerous at times as driving fast IMO because of the way it influences other drivers. I often point out that you are marked down on your test for not aiming to get up to the speed limit.

I know somebody who doesn't indicate but actually said good drivers will know where he's going.

This is what frustrates me, they think by driving slowly it automatically means safer. I was actually driving behind someone once who had a sticker in their window 'the closer you get, the slower I'll go'....and they were driving at 20mph on a busy road. Now there's nobody who hates tailgaters more than me but this person was a total menace - yet in their head they were probably exemplary.

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Too many people think like this and it's just wrong. If a car indicator is flashing then that's a risk flag that a trained driver can interpret. It's not an absolute signal of intent, it's a flag that the vehicle may do something.

Drivers who don't indicate when they should are cretins who deserve no courtesy on the road at all.

On a local facebook page there was one lady ranting about an incident where she was driving on the inside lane of a duel carriageway and started indicating to pull out but had to break sharply because the car in that lane overtaking her did not slow down. She was convinced that she had right of way to pull out because she was indicating and that the other driver was in the wrong. She also commented that she was doing nearly 60mph (the road is national speed limit) so the other driver must have been going at dangerous speeds.

 

This lady was convinced that if you indicate you automatically get right of way. It was quite scary watching her try and defend herself as she was convinced the other driver should have allowed her out because she had her indicators flashing.

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On a local facebook page there was one lady ranting about an incident where she was driving on the inside lane of a duel carriageway and started indicating to pull out but had to break sharply because the car in that lane overtaking her did not slow down. She was convinced that she had right of way to pull out because she was indicating and that the other driver was in the wrong. She also commented that she was doing nearly 60mph (the road is national speed limit) so the other driver must have been going at dangerous speeds.

This lady was convinced that if you indicate you automatically get right of way. It was quite scary watching her try and defend herself as she was convinced the other driver should have allowed her out because she had her indicators flashing.

Yep, can be terrifying when you're bombing along the motorway and someone thinks merely indicating then changing lanes is OK.

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Always check if the driver in front is wearing a hat. If he is, be prepared for anything... except a burst of speed.


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Always check if the driver in front is wearing a hat. If he is, be prepared for anything... except a burst of speed.

 and if the words Audi or BMW (not including motor bicycles) are emblazoned proudly, be prepared for everything .....  (including a burst of speed). 

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Those that don't grasp that use of headlights is so you can be seen as well as see yourself.


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