Shaun Wane Leaving Wigan

[Dunbar]

3 minutes ago, Lowdesert said:

Dunbar, I’ll apologise.  Didn’t read the thread right at all!

No problem.  All good.

[Jim Prendle]

15 hours ago, terrywebbisgod said:

He was linked to the Harlequins post but that's gone.Either a post in the England setup or a return (as coach) to Wigan. 

With the standard of creativity of most of our recent half backs, I would take him back as a player.

I would be happy to see Edwards given a go at the Wigan job. Yes, he has been out of the game for a while, and it might take him a bit of time to get up to speed, but the fundamentals of the game remain unchanged, and he was always pretty good at those.

I would much rather see Edwards get the role than some overhyped Aussie who knows nothing about our club. I would also accept Farrell back as his assistant.

[Padge]

Whoever is replacing Wane it would be a good move to get them on board ASAP to work alongside him until the end of the season if its someone from outside SL. i.e Deacon, who is slipping under the (would cost though) or Edwards, his recent pronouncements imply he may have something in his contract about senior coaching jobs.

I am more inclined to think though that there may be an Australian accent in the 'bosses' office come November.

 

[terrywebbisgod]

2 minutes ago, Jim Prendle said:

With the standard of creativity of most of our recent half backs, I would take him back as a player.

I would be happy to see Edwards given a go at the Wigan job. Yes, he has been out of the game for a while, and it might take him a bit of time ot get up to speed, but the funrdementals of the game remain unchanged, and he was always pretty good at those.

I would much rather see Edwards get the role than some overhyped Aussie who knows nothing about our club. I would also accept Farrell back as his assistant.

He'd have a coaching team around him to help him get up to speed on the latest coaching techniques which is something most on here seem to forget.

[graveyard johnny]

1 minute ago, Jim Prendle said:

With the standard of creativity of most of our recent half backs, I would take him back as a player.

I would be happy to see Edwards given a go at the Wigan job. Yes, he has been out of the game for a while, and it might take him a bit of time ot get up to speed, but the funrdementals of the game remain unchanged, and he was always pretty good at those.

I would much rather see Edwards get the role than some overhyped Aussie who knows nothing about our club. I would also accept Farrell back as his assistant.

Edwards was a support player in one of the best teams that sport has ever seen, always in support and backing up to finish off the moves, apart from that he was never  a great of the game, let him stay in ru and get someone else instead  that has been in our game day in day out for the last 10 years, theres nothing for Edwards here 

[Oxford]

1 hour ago, Padge said:

up to speed with what is going on in the rugby game

What on earth does your post mean? Do you mean the rugby game as one sport? Do you mean the term rugby the way it's used by the BBC?

[Jim Prendle]

1 minute ago, graveyard johnny said:

Edwards was a support player in one of the best teams that sport has ever seen, always in support and backing up to finish off the moves, apart from that he was never  a great of the game, let him stay in ru and get someone else instead  that has been in our game day in day out for the last 10 years, theres nothing for Edwards here 

You know you are my hero Johnny, but that's a pile of ######.

[graveyard johnny]

10 minutes ago, Jim Prendle said:

You know you are my hero Johnny, but that's a pile of ######.

he may get wigan moving on up but I think he will need to search for the hero inside himself 1st

[Dunbar]

12 minutes ago, Oxford said:

What on earth does your post mean? Do you mean the rugby game as one sport? Do you mean the term rugby the way it's used by the BBC?

The full sentence from Padge that you quoted from is "There is no way that Edwards is not up to speed with what is going on in the rugby game, he soaks up knowledge, always has done and he will be studying what is going on so that he can use it in his union coaching job. "

It is completely obvious that Padge was using rugby to mean Rugby League in this context.

[Padge]

17 minutes ago, Oxford said:

What on earth does your post mean? Do you mean the rugby game as one sport? Do you mean the term rugby the way it's used by the BBC?

I mean rugby as it is known in Wigan and generally in the North, I have no need to explain what I am talking about when I talk of rugby, except it seems to you. .

[Jim Prendle]

4 minutes ago, graveyard johnny said:

he may get wigan moving on up but I think he will need to search for the hero inside himself 1st

And that young Johnny, is why you are my hero.

[Oxford]

13 minutes ago, Padge said:

I have no need to explain what I am talking about when I talk of rugby

From your keyboard to God's screen!

[Padge]

3 minutes ago, Oxford said:

From your keyboard to God's screen!

What does that nonsense mean. 

[Oxford]

19 minutes ago, Dunbar said:

It is completely obvious that Padge was using rugby to mean Rugby League in this context.

Well seeing how yawn call yawn rugby and that's where Edwards is and has been for a hell of a long time completely obvious might be a bit strong.

But watching and studying have never been quite the same as doing.

And given who they could get it still seems odd, despite you and Padge championing him.

[THE RED ROOSTER]

Very strange move, I would be surprised if Shaun Wane was in Super League next year as for a native Wiganer and ex-player surely the dream job is .. Wigan.  Going anywhere else would feel like a step down so it would have to be NRL or Rugby Union.

The Shuan Edwards rumour has legs in that he is available and a Wigan legend so placates the fan base, but as was the case the other side of the bilinge lump, being a club playing legend does not mean you nailed on to be a legendary coach....

 

[Oxford]

5 minutes ago, Padge said:

What does that nonsense mean. 

Well it is obvious to everyone who knows about quotes and paraphrasing south of the Mason-Dixon Line so I don't know why you're finding it difficult!

[Padge]

1 minute ago, Oxford said:

Well seeing how yawn call yawn rugby and that's where Edwards is and has been for a hell of a long time completely obvious might be a bit strong.

But watching and studying have never been quite the same as doing.

And given who they could get it still seems odd, despite you and Padge championing him.

Erm, I haven't championed Edwards.

[paulwalker71]

Honestly, it would make SL one heck of lot more interesting next season if Wane is at Toronto and Edwards is at Wigan...

... which probably means Toronto will crash and burn with Rowley, and some overhyped NRL assistant will stumble through the season with Wigan.

 

[Mark S]

I can see Wane joining the merry-go-round that is defence coaching in Union. The ex-RL players never seem to be out of work once they join the ride. 

[1976PMJwires]

Record speaks for itself, he’s been great  for the game and also never feared in giving youngsters a go. Shame other coaches haven’t done the same. 

Didnt like his foul mouth on TV but very respectful of his desire and trophies he’s won in the past 6 years.  

 

 

[Chamey]

RugbyInsideLine has a good reputation among Union circles, and they're calling him going to the Scotland Union setup as a coach (presumably defence). This is because England RU are likely to recruit the Scottish RU defence coach (who is their second choice behind Shaun Edwards (Welsh RU defence coach), which the linked article implies England can't afford to buy out). All this was triggered by Paul Gustard the England RU defence coach being appointed HC at Harlequins RU.

[The Future is League]

Did Wane have any say in the Hardaker signing?

Was the Hardaker signing done without his approval?

[iangidds]

8 hours ago, graveyard johnny said:

Edwards was a support player in one of the best teams that sport has ever seen, always in support and backing up to finish off the moves, apart from that he was never  a great of the game, let him stay in ru and get someone else instead  that has been in our game day in day out for the last 10 years, theres nothing for Edwards here 

That is also my feelings about Edwards as a player but I would like to see what he could do as a coach

[Harry Stottle]

11 hours ago, Oxford said:

No I'd say being a bus driver would make him more useful

But Dunbar just wants to to talk kick and clap and this thread, at this moment has nothing to do with this.

In what line of work where you've been away doing something almost entirely different for years would you expect or be expected to return at the top.

It smacks of a lack of belief on the one hand and illogical nostalgia on the other, which would fit RL to a T.

 

I have a ready made argument for those from the "dark side" who deride our game which is:-

How many Rugby League coaches have been employed by the Rugby Union both at club and International level to improve and make their game better, answer a lot, reverse that and tell me how many RU coaches have been employed in Rugby League for the same purpose, a nice round figure ZERO, none.

But back to Mr Edwards, Yes he has been away for a long time, do you not consider he will have kept up with what new methods such as training and strategies in both offence and defence being those which can be transferred to the RU game? Is that not why they employed our coaches in the first place? It is not as though he has had a lifetime in that sport and knows no different.

I may have that illogical nostalgia you say, and for me he was up there with the best player's I have witnessed and he seemed to be an innovator in some of the things he did, I think he would make a good aquisition back in our sport, his spiritual home.

[RidingPie]

I can't believe the number of people saying Shaun was "just" a support player! Tough as nails in defence, read the game brilliantly, fantastic team organiser as well. Some of his best tries were supporting ones but that certainly wasn't the only string to his bow. He was a legend.