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Sat 29 Feb: SL: Toronto Wolfpack v St Helens KO 6pm

Who will win?  

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  1. 1. Who will win?

    • Toronto Wolfpack
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1 minute ago, Agbrigg said:

Dont talk ######. If he feels that bad then he should put his family before is job. 

Did you get a refund from your mental health counselling course?

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15 minutes ago, Johnoco said:

What we have to remember is that no team in the history of SL, or indeed RL, has ever put in a bad performance or been on a run of defeats. This is why Toronto deserve extra criticism. 

I don't follow your point mate. 

As a Bradford fan you will be well aware of the criticism your club has attracted. 

Leigh fans will feel their club is victimised. 

Ask Wiganers how welcome they are. 

God knows why but even a perfect club like mine take some stick. 

I don't know why so precious about criticism. This on Sky right now deserves plenty of criticism. 

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Just now, Phil said:

Penalty definitely, yellow card fair enough, but no way a red imo 

Having had Bodene play for us , it's not what I expected. , But I don't see how you can argue against it , it was deliberate use of the shoulder to the head , if somebody did that to my son , I'd want them off , as I'm sure so would you 

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15 minutes ago, ojx said:

It just struck me that TWP are incredibly badly coached. 

  The link I wanted - by Darwen on Team Work Index is now behind a paywall.

   However, - https://winningwithanalytics.com/2016/08/06/blog-4-the-complexity-of-team-cohesion/#:~:text=Ben Darwin%2C the former Australian,40% of on field performance.

   More recent - https://medium.com/@allstatsarentwe/bielsa-leeds-and-the-teamwork-index-a058721f5c58

  That's before consideration is given to the opposition - and their team work index.

 


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1 minute ago, GUBRATS said:

Having had Bodene play for us , it's not what I expected. , But I don't see how you can argue against it , it was deliberate use of the shoulder to the head , if somebody did that to my son , I'd want them off , as I'm sure so would you 

I don't know your son!

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So how do people rate the commentary?

not the best game in terms of quality to judge but I’ve enjoyed this more than most

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Just now, GUBRATS said:

Having had Bodene play for us , it's not what I expected. , But I don't see how you can argue against it , it was deliberate use of the shoulder to the head , if somebody did that to my son , I'd want them off , as I'm sure so would you 

Just my opinion based on a 20+ Years refereeing career encompassing all levels from under 8s to internationals 

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Just now, Dave T said:

I don't follow your point mate. 

As a Bradford fan you will be well aware of the criticism your club has attracted. 

Leigh fans will feel their club is victimised. 

Ask Wiganers how welcome they are. 

God knows why but even a perfect club like mine take some stick. 

I don't know why so precious about criticism. This on Sky right now deserves plenty of criticism. 

Do me a favour Dave, it’s pea brained small mindedness based on the fact they are outsiders. Fair criticism is always valid, indeed essential but this isn’t it. People are talking gleefully about it as if it’s the first time any team has had a string of bad results, including unbelievably Huddersfield fans. That takes some brass neck and a memory like a sieve. 

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Just now, Phil said:

Just my opinion based on a 20+ Years refereeing career encompassing all levels from under 8s to internationals 

Think you are probably an outlier here mate. Don't think it was the nastiest ever as it wasn't overly aggressive, but it was a cheap shot on a prone player. 

Defo a red for me and a game or two ban. 

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3 minutes ago, muckymunksy said:

Toronto won’t win a game and I love it. 

1) Do you want a charity bet on that?

2) Who do you support?

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1 minute ago, OMEGA said:

So how do people rate the commentary?

not the best game in terms of quality to judge but I’ve enjoyed this more than most

Much better because Rea, Carney and Wilson are intelligent men who don’t just say ‘He’s quality’  etc 

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I'm just starting to watch the match after being out... but have been following the score.

I will say Tony Rea is a much underused summarisor for Sky... miles better than anyone else they use.

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Just now, Johnoco said:

Do me a favour Dave, it’s pea brained small mindedness based on the fact they are outsiders. Fair criticism is always valid, indeed essential but this isn’t it. People are talking gleefully about it as if it’s the first time any team has had a string of bad results, including unbelievably Huddersfield fans. That takes some brass neck and a memory like a sieve. 

The problem is, this high level outrage wraps everybody up in it. The anti-twp brigade are a minority on this board. Those who want them to become extinct are probably a taxi full. 

The criticism in this thread has been merited, with one or two OTT comments. It doesn't match your level of outrage here. 

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3 minutes ago, Phil said:

Just my opinion based on a 20+ Years refereeing career encompassing all levels from under 8s to internationals 

Well I'm glad you never reffed a game I was coaching 

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What a terrible game. Neither side, nor the ref has had a good game.

Although to Saints credit, they've won easily despite not playing well

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2 minutes ago, GUBRATS said:

Well I'm glad you never reffed a game I was coaching 

How do you know I didn’t? 
 

how many international games were you involved in? 


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Just now, Phil said:

How do you know I didn’t? 
 

how many international games were you involved in? 

Maybe you did , must have been before your eyesight went 

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Just now, GUBRATS said:

Maybe you did , must have been before your eyesight went 

Your sanity is obviously still intact ??


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8 minutes ago, Johnoco said:

Do me a favour Dave, it’s pea brained small mindedness based on the fact they are outsiders. Fair criticism is always valid, indeed essential but this isn’t it. People are talking gleefully about it as if it’s the first time any team has had a string of bad results, including unbelievably Huddersfield fans. That takes some brass neck and a memory like a sieve. 

The point is , they committed suicide , bad, bad tactics from the start 

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19 minutes ago, Phil said:

Seriously a red for that? Where did they find this one? 

What a muppet you are if you think that's not a red. There can be absolutely no argument luckily it didn't cause a serious injury. 

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22 minutes ago, Johnoco said:

And god forbid anyone should try to make that Corsa look more interesting or exciting. 

Yes , but you can spend money on it and make it less valuable , that is what they've done 

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5 minutes ago, Dave T said:

The problem is, this high level outrage wraps everybody up in it. The anti-twp brigade are a minority on this board. Those who want them to become extinct are probably a taxi full. 

The criticism in this thread has been merited, with one or two OTT comments. It doesn't match your level of outrage here. 

Think you need to redefine your idea of outrage bud, I aren’t outraged or even surprised. As for your taxi comments, that simply isn’t true, there’s a sizeable number of RL fans falling over themselves to criticise each and every aspect about them. I expected a few to be sure, but the number of anti Toronto RL people has surprised me.

Still, if Toronto do go down, they can have their game back. 

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