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This is a question that I have often thought about. If I wanted to plough millions into a club to make them into an absolute giant (that could dominate and win WCCs) then what is the best course of action?

I don't want to start a club from scratch just to burn a #### load of cash and have an amazing and fulfilling ride.

  • Buy out an existing big team (e.g. Wigan, Warrington, Saints) and just watch them go
  • Pile money into a sleeping giant like Bradford
  • Invest in an emerging place like London, Toulouse, Newcastle, Sheffield (the Melbourne Storm approach)

Would the game in the UK only allow me to have success via route one? Is route 2 (e.g. Bradford) even difficult with the petty politics - would it exhaust me? And would anybody at all within the game welcome me if I was option 3? Or would they fight me to the death for self preservation? 

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If I wasn't being boring I might go over and buy Avignon. Lovely city, can attract decent crowds and produces players already

Near enough 20 years ago, I was the treasurer at my local club, where I was still playing. Back then, to run 2 open age men's teams and 6 or so junior side's cost in excess of £15k, per season, so you

None of the above!

Buy out an existing big team is the only way right now.

Currently we have no mechanisms for ambitious clubs with wealthy backers to invest in their squads, even if they wanted to.

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10 minutes ago, Scubby said:

This is a question that I have often thought about. If I wanted to plough millions into a club to make them into an absolute giant (that could dominate and win WCCs) then what is the best course of action?

I don't want to start a club from scratch just to burn a #### load of cash and have an amazing and fulfilling ride.

  • Buy out an existing big team (e.g. Wigan, Warrington, Saints) and just watch them go
  • Pile money into a sleeping giant like Bradford
  • Invest in an emerging place like London, Toulouse, Newcastle, Sheffield (the Melbourne Storm approach)

Would the game in the UK only allow me to have success via route one? Is route 2 (e.g. Bradford) even difficult with the petty politics - would it exhaust me? And would anybody at all within the game welcome me if I was option 3? Or would they fight me to the death for self preservation? 

None of the above!

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10 minutes ago, Gooleboy said:

None of the above!

I'm certainly not going down the Derek Beaumont (Leigh) or Des Johnson (Barrow) route. As much as you love your club it never ends well when you are too attached to the town.

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2 minutes ago, Scubby said:

I'm certainly not going down the Derek Beaumont (Leigh) or Des Johnson (Barrow) route. As much as you love your club it never ends well when you are too attached to the town.

Do a bit of Sponsorship, have a table in the Hospitality, but that would be it for me if I had money to burn!

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2 minutes ago, hindle xiii said:

Grassroots level.

Sanctimonious answer aside, have a "memorable" night out with Zak Hardaker or some such and buy a box at Twickers.

It's not my job to set up grassroots for the whole game. My fictitious club would have the best academies money could buy, however. It is about raising the bar.

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2 minutes ago, Gooleboy said:

Do a bit of Sponsorship, have a table in the Hospitality, but that would be it for me if I had money to burn!

I can understand that mate. RL is such a complex and antagonistic beast that you really can't see a way of making a real impact no matter how much cash you had.

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I suppose it depends on your motivation. If you just wanted success, for example, you’d just buy one of Saints, Wigan, Leeds or Warrington, as they’re the clubs with the infrastructures in place. If you wanted to rebuild a club or really implement structures and processes at a club, you’re going for option two or three.

On the subject of sleeping giants, how many do we actually have and what do we categorise as a sleeping giant? Bradford? Catalans? Widnes? Hull? Leigh? Sheffield? York? Toulouse?

I think there’s probably some crossover between point two and point three. A couple of the emerging or expansion sides probably fall into the sleeping giants category because, if done right and implemented as part of a strategy between the club(s) and the sport itself, they could be giants in the sport. 

I think, if I had to invest money into a club, I’d probably pick an amateur club and invest in them as a labour of love rather than some form of business decision.

 

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I'd love to establish a team in a new area, along the lines of Newcastle in another major city like Cardiff or Birmingham.

I also really like the idea of returning someone like Oldham to their former glory. A rich RL history and a strong amateur setup sees a lot to build on with some money. A nice, sparkling 10k stadium and money for a strong academy and SL would be mine within 10 years I reckon 😂

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Help for local clubs like Bolton Mets, Westhaughton and Bury Broncos.

A community facility for Swinton Lions.

Investment generally for the amateur set up in the north west especially those helping Saints.

Ensure it was Warrington’s year one time (only joking not that loaded!)

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1 hour ago, JM2010 said:

If I wasn't being boring I might go over and buy Avignon. Lovely city, can attract decent crowds and produces players already

Yeah Avignon is one of the ones I'd go for. A ready made SL club. SL quality stadium too. 

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If I won, let’s say £145m on the Euromillions, I’d take a different approach and probably build a stadium for about 3-4 clubs who I think are of strategic value to the sport in the UK. Interest-free loan to them over a certain period of time to pay me back...

... I’ll leave you to ponder on which teams they are! 😂

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If I scooped the Euros and had to spend it on Rugby League, I’m wanting the whole sport, not a very small slice of it, in the form of a club.

We’re working with the best marketing, advertising and PR people in the game, I’ll pay Sky to end the contracts of the Sky Sports team barring Jenna Brooks, minimum standards will be introduced across all levels and there will be a strategy and a business plan for the whole sport and for a number of clubs. 

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3 hours ago, JM2010 said:

I'd be boring and invest in the community game

Me too.

I don't play the lottery, so it's an academic discussion, but if I won, say, £10 million then I'd try and create 8 community clubs in my home county and have a genuine RL structure - men's/women's/junior/X-League/touch/tag etc. I'd put some of the money aside as a funding source for clubs who want to do new projects and award cash for initiatives to grow the game (e.g. club needs £1000 to start a girls team or wants £2000 to take their juniors on tour).

I'd also invest in a personal development programme for coaches, referees and volunteers so that all the people involved in RL had the best chance of making themselves and their clubs a success.

If I won enough, I'd also try and invest in a 3g pitch somewhere with decent facilities to have a "home base" for things like club & school finals days etc and to make sure there was somewhere for players to train in a good environment.

Probably also make some of that funding available to new countries that wanted to start up as well, because I think developing the international game is really important.

If a team managed to get themselves semi-pro or pro, that would be cool, but not the aim of the project. I would just try and get a load of people playing and enjoying Rugby League. Maybe name the trophy after myself 😂 but that would be it.

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6 hours ago, Scubby said:

This is a question that I have often thought about. If I wanted to plough millions into a club to make them into an absolute giant (that could dominate and win WCCs) then what is the best course of action?

I don't want to start a club from scratch just to burn a #### load of cash and have an amazing and fulfilling ride.

  • Buy out an existing big team (e.g. Wigan, Warrington, Saints) and just watch them go
  • Pile money into a sleeping giant like Bradford
  • Invest in an emerging place like London, Toulouse, Newcastle, Sheffield (the Melbourne Storm approach)

Would the game in the UK only allow me to have success via route one? Is route 2 (e.g. Bradford) even difficult with the petty politics - would it exhaust me? And would anybody at all within the game welcome me if I was option 3? Or would they fight me to the death for self preservation? 

So if it is to win and build a brand and no new club then London easily. Ground already,  enthusiastic new owner who doesnt ###### off every fan with terrible communication and you have a core of 1200. 

Announce you want to win challenge cup in 5 years and first thing you do is give Owen Farrell or some current or just finished Eng RU international a call and say "how much?"

Make a massive splash like that and use them to exploit the untapped commercial potential of Broncos. Kit deals, blue chip sponsors. You milk that marque signing for everyone penny of value.  Make season tickets £130 adults plus kid or 2nd adult half price.  

Get 4000 in Championship and then when back in SL wash rinse repeat.  Sign a player for commercial purposes, leave rest to Manager and say Challenge Cup is the aim.  

Get London back to 5-6000 fans and turn it into a commercial juggernaut. 

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6 hours ago, Scubby said:

This is a question that I have often thought about. If I wanted to plough millions into a club to make them into an absolute giant (that could dominate and win WCCs) then what is the best course of action?

I don't want to start a club from scratch just to burn a #### load of cash and have an amazing and fulfilling ride.

  • Buy out an existing big team (e.g. Wigan, Warrington, Saints) and just watch them go
  • Pile money into a sleeping giant like Bradford
  • Invest in an emerging place like London, Toulouse, Newcastle, Sheffield (the Melbourne Storm approach)

Would the game in the UK only allow me to have success via route one? Is route 2 (e.g. Bradford) even difficult with the petty politics - would it exhaust me? And would anybody at all within the game welcome me if I was option 3? Or would they fight me to the death for self preservation? 

I've already postulated this a few months ago. I suggested Bill Gates plough £1 bilillion into Broncos over 3 years- new stadium, top marketing firm, full schools programme and buy the best NRL players (get bent accountants to work out how pay them outsude the cap.... ..... But he should insist he gets the starting spot at 9 each game (when fit) 

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4 hours ago, The Blues Ox said:

Id put it in my local amateur club. As has been mentioned the days when someone can come in to a team like Halifax and be able to spend a lot of money to take them to the top of the game are long gone.

Koukash couldn't do it but not sure it means it can't be done 

If a genuine billionaire came in he'd easily be able to buy on field success 

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My own choice (because I am ambitious/deluded to think I can make RL an international game) would be build North Wales Crusaders a 6000 capacity 3g stadium and home for Welsh Rugby League.

Tell RFL and Super League what I am going to do and once built start regularly holding events there.  Boxing Day Wales vs Eng 9's, annual Wales vs Jam international on Challenge Cup final day.  After one year,  say to SL and RFL that if you lock us into SL on a Leigh type deal 13 of matchday squad will be Welsh eligible. 

Then gang up with RFL, Jamaica and France to do a annual 4 nations tournament on FTA (bar world cup years). 

Use money from fta deal and sponsors to set up three academies. One in Wrexham, Merthyr and Swansea.

Have proper international calender, transform the sport and terrify the other code as they cower behind their paywall. 

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14 minutes ago, Bedfordshire Bronco said:

Koukash couldn't do it but not sure it means it can't be done 

If a genuine billionaire came in he'd easily be able to buy on field success 

Id be intrigued to see it. They would still be limited by the salary cap.

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55 minutes ago, The Blues Ox said:

Id be intrigued to see it. They would still be limited by the salary cap.

The salary cap is the same for every team mind so just rewards clubs who spend wisely and have an academy.

Thats what feels like a waste under Koukash.  If he had set up an academy in Manchester there would be a dozen players off the production line every year. 

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