Sat 8th May: CCQF: Hull FC v Wigan Warriors KO 14:30 (BBC)

[JonM]

Just now, DavidM said:

Got to admit watching them live I thought Powell’s was just a regular tackle but the Brown one looked a more obvious cannonball 

Brown's one would've been obvious to the referee (and the touch judge came on). For the other one, there were three Wigan tacklers between him and the referee, would've not been possible for Mr. Hicks to have seen it. Play only stopped because the Hull player went down.

[Wellsy4HullFC]

2 minutes ago, DavidM said:

Got to admit watching them live I thought Powell’s was just a regular tackle but the Brown one looked a more obvious cannonball 

But what made them different? What made one more obvious?

[Rupert Prince]

Just now, Wellsy4HullFC said:

I'm hoping someone explains to be the difference between the Powell tackle and the Brown tackle. I'm assuming it's a huge difference considering one wasn't a penalty and the other was a penalty and ten minutes in the bin.

Very little different.  Possibly a fraction. of difference in timing.

But what if the first man goes round the legs... what are 2nd 3rd men in supposed to do? 

[Futtocks]

Neither side is playing at their best, but their levels are pretty equal. So a close contest.

[graveyard johnny]

this is so bad i might turn it off and put my "stuart cummins reads mills and boon " LP  on instead

[bobbruce]

1 minute ago, Rupert Prince said:

Very little different.  Possibly a fraction. of difference in timing.

But what if the first man goes round the legs... what are 2nd 3rd men in supposed to do? 

That wouldn’t matter it’s a specific rule that the third man in can’t hit below the knee

[andyscoot]

1 minute ago, Wellsy4HullFC said:

But what made them different? What made one more obvious?

I think that the Wigan player was folded over made it look worse but I agree, I can't see a difference in terms of an offence from the tackler.

[Wellsy4HullFC]

2 minutes ago, JonM said:

Brown's one would've been obvious to the referee (and the touch judge came on). For the other one, there were three Wigan tacklers between him and the referee, would've not been possible for Mr. Hicks to have seen it. Play only stopped because the Hull player went down.

Did they not check on the video if anything was untoward? Or are they not allowed to do that anymore?

That's the only thing I can think of being the difference - one was missed and the other one wasn't.

[Rupert Prince]

Wigan are a good side but are short of a hooker and a goal kicker.

[JonM]

1 minute ago, bobbruce said:

That wouldn’t matter it’s a specific rule that the third man in can’t hit below the knee

That explains it then. The Wigan player was the fourth defender in the tackle.

[graveyard johnny]

who fitted the carpet under peacock and wilkin? 

[Davo5]

Just now, Rupert Prince said:

Wigan are a good side but are short of a hooker and a goal kicker.

And 2 props.

[Rupert Prince]

1 minute ago, bobbruce said:

That wouldn’t matter it’s a specific rule that the third man in can’t hit below the knee

So every player who tackles below the knee gets penalised?  Not from what I see.

[graveyard johnny]

1 minute ago, Davo5 said:

And 2 props.

and 2 centres and a couple of wingers

[DavidM]

1 minute ago, Rupert Prince said:

So every player who tackles below the knee gets penalised?  Not from what I see.

Exactly , you see guys regularly just getting a player to ground . It’s the force they seem to look at 

[Ullman]

1 minute ago, Rupert Prince said:

So every player who tackles below the knee gets penalised?  Not from what I see.

It depends whether the player is still moving or is held in an upright position.

For me both incidents in this game were yellow cards.

[graveyard johnny]

the biggest talking point of the game is a foul tackle- jeeez!

[Old Frightful]

10 minutes ago, Just Browny said:

Yep. You should pick up some s from the WDL for that.

Fantastic contributions from Dave05 and 7723.

The WDL frontmen it would seem.

[Bleep1673]

Do we really need to play all our M62 games behind closed doors at the same stadiums? For example, Headingley, St. Helens, & the KC? YOU COULD PLAY EMPTY STADIA GAMES at Batley, Halifax or Widnes 

[Rupert Prince]

Not sure the BBC summarisers are giving a good analysis.   I think Wigan look ordinary, not focussed at all.

[graveyard johnny]

good to see brett hodgson keeping his face covering on 

[Futtocks]

1 minute ago, Old Frightful said:

Fantastic contributions from Dave05 and 7723.

The WDL frontmen it would seem.

How revealing.

[Rupert Prince]

Good analysis from Davis.

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, Old Frightful said:

Fantastic contributions from Dave05 and 7723.

The WDL frontmen it would seem.

Ah, Mr. I’m always right  is out again. 

[Dunbar]

20 minutes ago, bobbruce said:

Two almost identical one first contact just above the knee and one below. 

Yep, that's what I said. Almost identical.