Balmain1969 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Do they have a habit of large walk up crowds in France, because looking at the ticketing site they have barely sold 1000 tickets at this stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Kevin Sinfield Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 19 hours ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said: This squad looks very different compared to a possible World Cup squad, we may as well call them England PM13 or England Knights, it’s not really a full International without England’s NRL players. I’m still looking forward to the game on Saturday. 1 Sam Tomkins 2 Herbie Farnworth 3 Harry Newman 4 Dom Young 5 Tommy Makinson 6 Gareth Widdop 7 George Williams 8 Alex Walmsley 9 Josh Hodgson 10 Tom Burgess 11 Elliott Whitehead 12 Jon Bateman 13 Morgan Knowles 14 Ben Currie 15 Kruise Leeming 16 Mikolaj Oledzki 17 Ryan Sutton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedfordshire Bronco Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 France 3-1 to win it Certainly not walkover odds Probably similar to what we would be against Aussies right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedfordshire Bronco Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 6 hours ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said: If France weren’t missing their 3 best players in big Jullien Bousquet, Ben Garcia and Theo Fages you could be right. I think it wil be a 20 point win. With those 3 (and maybe Remi changing his mind) it would be nearer a 10 point win Anyone secretly or not secretly hoping for an upset? I'm torn as an Englishman . Overall I think I'd prefer a thriller that we edge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barnyia Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Papua New Guinea beat GB last year so an upset could happen, hopefully it'll be a close game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Kevin Sinfield Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 45 minutes ago, Bedfordshire Bronco said: I think it wil be a 20 point win. With those 3 (and maybe Remi changing his mind) it would be nearer a 10 point win Anyone secretly or not secretly hoping for an upset? I'm torn as an Englishman . Overall I think I'd prefer a thriller that we edge I think everyone would agree if France could be competitive with England it’d be great for the International game. I don’t think the squad they have on Saturday will be though, they have too many fringe Super League players and Championship players. I think England will win by 40 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 1 hour ago, ShropshireBull said: Would be good to avoid a blowout but I´ll be looking at the barb figures and if it is a blowout but still good, then it is almost better than a close game with good figures as it means there is room for it to grow as it becomes more competitive. Wouldn't most of the wider English sporting public like to see a good England win than a close game? I don't remember anyone hoping for a close, competitive game when the other England teams play. "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedfordshire Bronco Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Dunbar said: Wouldn't most of the wider English sporting public like to see a good England win than a close game? I don't remember anyone hoping for a close, competitive game when the other England teams play. Other England teams being union, soccer and cricket I assume In those sports we play a variety of other nations that are competetive. As we don't have that luxury in NH an emergence of a local international rival would be welcomed All other sides I would like us to smash - be it Aus, NZ, Tonga, Samoa etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clogdance Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 9 hours ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said: If France weren’t missing their 3 best players in big Jullien Bousquet, Ben Garcia and Theo Fages you could be right. It shouldn't really boil down to that though should it ? and it may not do. But If PNG can beat England (with a couple of Barrow players - no disrespect to their club) then surely France should have a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clogdance Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 PNG beat Great Britain, but nearly the same thing, eh ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Bedfordshire Bronco said: Other England teams being union, soccer and cricket I assume In those sports we play a variety of other nations that are competetive. As we don't have that luxury in NH an emergence of a local international rival would be welcomed All other sides I would like us to smash - be it Aus, NZ, Tonga, Samoa etc But that's my point. As Rugby League fans we know who the strongest nations are but this doesn't play out across the wider sporting public. I occasionally watch England Netball play on TV. I don't think when they are playing Jamaica that I want them to smash them as they are ranked 4th in the world but I hope its a good competitive game against Canada for the sake of the Canadians as they are ranked 29th. I just want England to win. If a casual sports fan watched England play France at Rugby League are they really that bothered where the French rank against Tonga and Samoa... they will surely just want England to turn over the French (the oldest of English rivals!). p.s. and yes, of course I had to Google the Netball world rankings - again because it never occurred to me to wonder who was in the top 10 "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UTK Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 French Team List: https://www.ffr13.fr/les-compositions-des-equipes-de-equipes-de-france-pour-affronter-langleterre/ 1. Mark Kheirallah 2. Ilias Bergal 3. Matthieu Laguerre 4. Mathieu Jussaume 5. Fouad Yaha 6. Arthur Mourgue 7. Tony Gigot (C) 8. Romain Navarrete 9. Anthony Marion 10. Jordan Dezaria 11. Benjamin Jullien 12. Paul Seguier 13. Mickael Goudemand 14. Eloi Pelissier 15. Maxime Puech 16. Justin Sangare 17. Corentin Le Cam 18. Matthieu Cozza 19. Cesar Rouge 20. Morgan Escare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Mead Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 36 minutes ago, UTK said: French Team List: https://www.ffr13.fr/les-compositions-des-equipes-de-equipes-de-france-pour-affronter-langleterre/ 1. Mark Kheirallah 2. Ilias Bergal 3. Matthieu Laguerre 4. Mathieu Jussaume 5. Fouad Yaha 6. Arthur Mourgue 7. Tony Gigot (C) 8. Romain Navarrete 9. Anthony Marion 10. Jordan Dezaria 11. Benjamin Jullien 12. Paul Seguier 13. Mickael Goudemand 14. Eloi Pelissier 15. Maxime Puech 16. Justin Sangare 17. Corentin Le Cam 18. Matthieu Cozza 19. Cesar Rouge 20. Morgan Escare Oh dear, that’s not their strongest team by any stretch is it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UTK Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, Dallas Mead said: Oh dear, that’s not their strongest team by any stretch is it Losing their best three in Garcia, Fages and Bousquet is far from ideal while their depth is so thin. Da Costa and Springer would've also got starts I'd imagine. As a positive there's only 3 players over 30 (Gigot, Kheirallah, Pelissier) with plenty of debutants so they'll be able to use this experience as a base for the future squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 10 hours ago, Bedfordshire Bronco said: France 3-1 to win it Certainly not walkover odds Probably similar to what we would be against Aussies right now I had a look now on Oddschecker and most bookmakers are 17/2 France. France can also be backed at around evens with +20 start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rocket Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 10 hours ago, Dunbar said: Wouldn't most of the wider English sporting public like to see a good England win than a close game? I don't remember anyone hoping for a close, competitive game when the other England teams play. It`s the same everywhere I expect, most people only want to see their own team play and see them win, regardless of the margin. I don`t care if Oz wins or loses, in any sport, including League, a close contest of high quality will do. I`ve never really understood patriotism, me being an Australian was only by chance, I could have been born any where in the world and been anyone, it just so happened that I was born here, nothing to do with me, just luck or fate or whatever you want to call it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlno1 Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 21 hours ago, Balmain1969 said: Game is now being televised in Aus SCRUM-FREE TEST Fox Sports has secured the rights to Saturday night’s France-England Test, which holds particular interest because it will be played without scrums. Eliminating scrums has been an argument around the NRL for years, with some pushing for it and others in fierce resistance. The Test, in Perpignan, gives supporters a chance to witness the scrum-less game at high level. Roosters coach Trent Robinson will be one interested observer, with Robinson a director of the French rugby league. Coverage starts 9.55pm Saturday. Anyone watching the super league in Australia would have seen scrum free games so it is no big revelation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Toppy Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 On 17/10/2021 at 12:50, Sir Kevin Sinfield said: 1 Evalds 2 Makinson 3 Newman 4 Hardaker 5 Davis 6 Lomax 7 Leeming 8 Oledzki 9 McShane 10 Walmsley 11 Farrell 12 Bateman 13 Knowles 14 Philbin 15 Lees 16 Cooper 17 Currie Walker, Abdul, Lyne You seriously want to pick a hooker at 7 at test level, particularly one who's been outclassed at club level playing there all season That's bordering on about as stupid a Bennett picking Austin as a wingman. Even accounting for the fact this is a **** poor French team, Leeming is not and never will be a scrum half. St.Helens - The Home of record breaking Rugby Champions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Toppy Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 On 18/10/2021 at 17:06, OMEGA said: Tomkins McGillvery Percival King Johnstone Widdop Williams Hill Clarke Watts Whitehead Currie Thompson Subs: Connor, McMekin Sutton, T Burgess Alternative team from unselected or unavailable players Feel sorry for Percival with his injuries. After missing large parts of the early season this year he was getting back to top form and then picked up another leg injury which he carried through the Semi-final & Final. Had it been the WC i'm sure he would have delayed treatment but given its just a 'friendly' I understand why he chose to get the treatment now and get himself fit for the start of next year which will be a WC year. St.Helens - The Home of record breaking Rugby Champions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubby Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 14 minutes ago, Saint Toppy said: Feel sorry for Percival with his injuries. After missing large parts of the early season this year he was getting back to top form and then picked up another leg injury which he carried through the Semi-final & Final. Had it been the WC i'm sure he would have delayed treatment but given its just a 'friendly' I understand why he chose to get the treatment now and get himself fit for the start of next year which will be a WC year. If Percival is one of England's centres in the World Cup then we are in trouble. If he was at Salford not Saints he would be barely noticable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Scubby said: If Percival is one of England's centres in the World Cup then we are in trouble. If he was at Salford not Saints he would be barely noticable. Indeed, he should be well down the pecking order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Toppy Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Scubby said: If Percival is one of England's centres in the World Cup then we are in trouble. If he was at Salford not Saints he would be barely noticable. Whether you like it or not, when fit he's one of, if not the most dangerous English centre playing in SL. His problem over the years has been getting through a season injury free. The fact they're having to resort to Reece Lynne as centre shows how lacking England are in depth in that position when players like Percival are injured and NRL based players aren't available. St.Helens - The Home of record breaking Rugby Champions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Saint Toppy said: Whether you like it or not, when fit he's one of, if not the most dangerous English centre playing in SL. His problem over the years has been getting through a season injury free. The fact they're having to resort to Reece Lynne as centre shows how lacking England are in depth in that position when players like Percival are injured and NRL based players aren't available. I think judging without any club bias, Percival and Newman and King are the best English centres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Scubby said: If Percival is one of England's centres in the World Cup then we are in trouble. If he was at Salford not Saints he would be barely noticable. Yeap,just hoping Newman has an injury free season & the likes of Farnworth,Wardle & Young continue their development & Gildart puts this year behind him & makes a success of his NRL switch to give us some genuine strike in the centres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rocket Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 On 19/10/2021 at 02:47, ATLANTISMAN said: Well sponsors like it LED advertising sold out in 3 days More of the same upwards and onwards Paul G`day Paul, would love to know who the companies are who are forking out their hard-earned to be on the hoardings of a French Rugby League Test match. Any chance of a list ? and are there any standouts that mightn`t have been expected ? Rocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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