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Has McCallum's appointment had such a profound effect so quickly or is this Black Caps side not as sharp as it has been? I'm picking a mixture of both. 

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7 hours ago, RayCee said:

Has McCallum's appointment had such a profound effect so quickly or is this Black Caps side not as sharp as it has been? I'm picking a mixture of both. 

New Zealand were a bowler down through in-match injury so there is mitigation but they weren't sharp, particularly in innings three and four. Both sides probably gave away 100+ runs through drops in their opponent's first innings.

Regardless of all that, I don't think anyone has even attempted to go at 11+ per over for a controlled and sustained period in a Test match. NZ could probably have been a bit smarter there but it's hard to see how it would have changed the result.

There is a very strong element of culture shift in going for a chase that is almost identical to the one they completely refused to chase last year.

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The morning after and this game is a reminder that there is a fine margin between success and failure for if one of Jonny Bairstow's pulls had gone into the hands of deep long leg  then the headlines would have beewn "Jonny throws it away" as opposed to "the miracle on the Trent".

Jonny Bairstow is an attacking batsman at test level. he is too self-effacing to do a KP and announce "it's the way I play " but its also true, and there is a case for swopping Foakes and Bairstow in the batting order as the situation demands with Jonny B more likely with his clean hitting to move the score along with the tail.

Stokes is Stokes and you have to take the rough with the smooth here.. Those in praise second innings were those who condemed his skied sweep off Bracewell when well set in the first innings.

The McCullum era, and has he has noit been speaking to the media, resembles the early Trevor Bayliss era when England's new found aggression took them to wins over Australia and in South Africa. Things tailed off from then, partly due to poor personnel choices, e.g. Hales and Roy, and partly due to the focus being on white ball cricket. The true test of "Bazball", as it is being called ,will come when England lose playing this way, will he be sticking to his principles or advocating a more pragmatic approach.

On New Zealand it is hard to be churlish towards the games good guys but you have to recognise that the Kiwis are an ageing side that has enjoyed a bit of fortune both in winning the World Test Championship through largly playing in home conditions due to COVID and getting New Zealand like conditions at the Ageas Bowl, and as Geoff Lemon pointed out in his book The Comeback Summer about 2019 while they may have been perceived as unfortunate in the final, they aloso enjoyed good fortune in getting there in the first place.

Tim Southee has a look of Jason Gillespie 2005 about him and while Trent Boult remains a world class left arm fast medium bowler. Matt Henry and Adam Milne are not unknown to English batsmen. Ajaz Patel as the spin option also not that effective here. The batting weakened by the loss of Ross Taylor. The Kiwis are a side that punches above their weight and is greater than the sum of their parts, but can be put away by the better sides as their recent tours of Australia and India proved.

A rollercoaster ride ahead but England's underlying issues remain.

 

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What a contrast to the non chase last year . I think even if we lose people will be more forgiving if the style and mindset is more positive and attacking . It’s certainly a lot more watchable and enjoyable from some recent performances. 

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59 minutes ago, DavidM said:

What a contrast to the non chase last year . I think even if we lose people will be more forgiving if the style and mindset is more positive and attacking . It’s certainly a lot more watchable and enjoyable from some recent performances. 

Agreed, can’t wait for the rest of the summer if aggressive batting and big slip cordons are going to be the way of things 

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I would like to have followed the last day as it happened, but we had the company Summer Social and (if you have tears of pity, shed them now) I had to spend most of yesterday and today in a five star hotel with free booze in every room, plus some very decent food and drink in general.

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So I'm home now, and enjoying the highlights via iPlayer.

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6 hours ago, Gerrumonside ref said:

Agreed, can’t wait for the rest of the summer if aggressive batting and big slip cordons are going to be the way of things 

Just need to learn to catch now.

Oh, and more wickets with a bit of pace like that one as well. Bit of turn would have been good on days 4 & 5 but that may be a reflection of the spinning talent available. If Shane Warne were still with us I'd suggest the ECB paid him whatever he wanted to run an England spin bowling academy.

We should also enjoy England's greatest bowler (by a distance) and probably its best ever batsman as well, while we can. Anderson has taken more Test wickets since the age of 30 than Ian Botham took in his career. Astonishing.

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Yeh our spinning talent isn’t good . I’m not a Leach fan tbh . At the very least a finger spinner at this level should be able to put it on a line and length over and over , but to often he can’t do that . I watched one over where the first three were short , the next was an easy run on the legs of the left handed , then an easy run on the legs of the right hander , then a wide one . Ward on comms picked up on it . Their spinner showed more in the first dig . 

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That pitch though, played like a first day pitch until the 3rd day then a 2nd day pitch for the rest. Almost no use for a spinner with less than Murali or Warne levels of talent except for poor shots by the batsmen.

I think the slow bowling in the game was more of the bowlers not wanting to be thumped into the stand every ball.

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7 hours ago, ckn said:

That pitch though, played like a first day pitch until the 3rd day then a 2nd day pitch for the rest. Almost no use for a spinner with less than Murali or Warne levels of talent except for poor shots by the batsmen.

This is where someone like Rashid comes into it.

Spin and slow bowling is the difference maker in T20/50 over matches on pitches that are roads.

Jeremy Coney* on TMS wondered why New Zealand didn't move to T20 style bowling. He meant specifically slow wide yorkers but there are other lessons the bowling could be learning as it seems batting skills are now moving into red ball to stay.

 

* Coney being one of a few on TMS who are happy to engage, learn and share.

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7 hours ago, gingerjon said:

This is where someone like Rashid comes into it.

Spin and slow bowling is the difference maker in T20/50 over matches on pitches that are roads.

Jeremy Coney* on TMS wondered why New Zealand didn't move to T20 style bowling. He meant specifically slow wide yorkers but there are other lessons the bowling could be learning as it seems batting skills are now moving into red ball to stay.

 

* Coney being one of a few on TMS who are happy to engage, learn and share.

I'd much rather Rashid stick with white ball cricket now. He's 34 and not played a first class game for a few years now. So we don't know how he'd hold up, and if he did, how long for.

I'd much rather see Parkinson get a go. If not this summer, then as a second spinner on the tour of Pakistan. Personally, I think he'd be more likely to impact a game than Leach, but can understand giving Leach a run this summer.

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20 minutes ago, phiggins said:

I'd much rather Rashid stick with white ball cricket now. He's 34 and not played a first class game for a few years now. So we don't know how he'd hold up, and if he did, how long for.

I'd much rather see Parkinson get a go. If not this summer, then as a second spinner on the tour of Pakistan. Personally, I think he'd be more likely to impact a game than Leach, but can understand giving Leach a run this summer.

That's all fair and it was brain fog about actual names which meant I wrote 'someone like Rashid' - I wouldn't pick him for Test cricket either now. Not least because he's clearly at a point where he's happy being a career franchise player in white ball.

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Finally, someone has put the idea of a Red Zone for county cricket into practice.

Friday Night Blast - let's see how it goes.

 

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If anyone's looking for commentary on today's ODI between England and the Netherlands, it's on TalkSport 2.

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2 hours ago, Futtocks said:

If anyone's looking for commentary on today's ODI between England and the Netherlands, it's on TalkSport 2.

I did wonder!

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England (46.2/50 ov) 447/4

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4 minutes ago, Futtocks said:

England (46.2/50 ov) 447/4

England's last 100 came off 26 balls

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Liam Livingstone has faced 14 balls, hit 5 fours and 4 sixes.

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Just fell 2 short of a 500 total.

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15 minutes ago, Futtocks said:

Just fell 2 short of a 500 total.

36 fours, 26 sixes, no maiden overs.

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Back in the t20 blast, Lancs have picked a team as if they’re playing a first class game in India. Replaced Salt and Livingstone with red ball specialists and packed the bowling with part time spinners. 
 

Bizarre

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15 hours ago, phiggins said:

Back in the t20 blast, Lancs have picked a team as if they’re playing a first class game in India. Replaced Salt and Livingstone with red ball specialists and packed the bowling with part time spinners. 
 

Bizarre

With a somewhat predictable outcome?

Meanwhile, last night was apparently the White Rose's biggest ever win in T20.

We won by 65 runs - so that probably speaks to 20 years of massive underachievement in white ball rather than specific majesty, although we did bat well (a rare Brook failure excepted).

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