Number 16 Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Compared to 'the other code'! In the 2019 union WC the ball was in play for nigh on 35% of the time... about half the time of this RLWC. They kick penalties at will, RL doesn't. A 40 point margin in union is the same as 70/80 in RL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, Big Picture said: Make the majority of players have citizenship in the country they represent like a real international sport and the problem wouldn't exist. Like Football,cricket,rugby Union,athletics,oh wait a minute. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, Damien said: Let's face it New Zealand is a small country with a population of less than 5 million and dominates RU. Pretty useful at cricket to,maybe they are joke sports too. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eal Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 This France team are very poor and way off the pace of the elite nations and even the tier below that. I think we always talk up how things are improving in France out of hopefulness, but on the international stage at least they seem as bad as they've ever been. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 22 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said: Kept off this thread for the whole game, Every cloud eh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Prendle Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Davo5 said: Every cloud eh Amen Brother. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragingbull Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 18 minutes ago, SydneyRoosters said: remember when you said Samoa would destroy England Nope didn't happen. Again more false claims from you. Thats a few this week now. Not having a good time of it are you. Parody accounts should be removed from this forum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, eal said: This France team are very poor and way off the pace of the elite nations and even the tier below that. I think we always talk up how things are improving in France out of hopefulness, but on the international stage at least they seem as bad as they've ever been. The big mystery is they are really competitive at youth level with England & there is more French players playing at Superleague level but they still struggle at full international level,some of which can be put down lack of test rugby but not all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eal Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Just now, Davo5 said: The big mystery is they are really competitive at youth level with England & there is more French players playing at Superleague level but they still struggle at full international level,some of which can be put down lack of test rugby but not all. I know, you would think the Catalans and Toulouse guys would actually look like seasoned professionals out there, instead they don't look much better than the Greeks and Jamaicans. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyRoosters Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Ragingbull said: Nope didn't happen. Again more false claims from you. Thats a few this week now. Not having a good time of it are you. Parody accounts should be removed from this forum. False Claim You said the exact same thing, you called me a parody account/Troll about 10 times because I said England would destroy Samoa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalfordSlim Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 44 minutes ago, JimBronco said: Beautiful hit!!! Cue Saints fans saying it's not a patch on Welsby's on Atkin. Absolute belter that though and Mourgue couldn't be a more apt name for someone on the receiving end. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjhrads93 Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Jim Prendle said: No, that debate was ended two weeks ago. Seemed to be a fairly convincing conclusion if I remember correctly. Edited October 30, 2022 by tjhrads93 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Prendle Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Just now, tjhrads93 said: Seemed to a fairly convincing conclusion if I remember correctly. Well it did to those of us without NRL tinted spectacles on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 25 minutes ago, Big Picture said: Make the majority of players have citizenship in the country they represent like a real international sport and the problem wouldn't exist. The vast majority of sports recognise and employ the grandparent ruling, which are these “real international” sports you refer to? 1 "Freedom without socialism is privilege and injustice, socialism without freedom is slavery and brutality" - Mikhail Bakunin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnM Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 28 minutes ago, Big Picture said: Make the majority of players have citizenship in the country they represent like a real international sport and the problem wouldn't exist. Easy peasy. As I pointed out a few pages ago, you are entitled to Irish citizenship if one of your grandparents was born there. My guess is that quite a few English, Scottish, NZ and Aus players have a grandparent born in Ireland. "Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth." JohnM - 17/01/2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnM Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) Scottish soccer phone in about qualification to play for Scotland Caller: I'm a Hearts fan and, fair enough, Stephen Pressley gets a game for Scotland but what I can't understand is why [national coach Berti] Vogts never picks Antii Niemi. 'Host (former footballer Arthur Albiston): Eh? Sorry? 'Caller: Why does he never pick Antii Niemi for Scotland? 'Host: It's because he's Finnish. 'Caller: What? 'Host: Antii Niemi is Finnish. 'By now enraged caller: He's not Finnish! He's only 28!' Edited October 30, 2022 by JohnM 1 1 1 "Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth." JohnM - 17/01/2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said: Kept off this thread for the whole game, I should imagine there are quite a few who will have red faces with not only with their predictions but the quality they gave these respective teams and some of the individuals on show, no names but the same person said that Milford was finished and Lui was just a show pony. This was effectively a select SL v NRL clash, the French lads could not live with the power, speed, organisation and skills of their opponents. I shall wait till next week to decide if I was wrong about Samoa. If they beat Tonga and get to the semi finals then I will hold my hand up and say that I have underestimated them. But if they bow out in the quarters after wins against Greece and France and a 60 point hammering from England then they will have had a poor World Cup. Edited October 30, 2022 by Dunbar 1 "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corkonian77 Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, JohnM said: Easy peasy. As I pointed out a few pages ago, you are entitled to Irish citizenship if one of your grandparents was born there. My guess is that quite a few English, Scottish, NZ and Aus players have a grandparent born in Ireland. Most Irish sports have players born abroad who represent Ireland due to an Irish Passport. Edited October 30, 2022 by corkonian77 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnM Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 1 minute ago, corkonian77 said: Most Irish sports have players born abroad. Indeed they do. "Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth." JohnM - 17/01/2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim2 Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 1 hour ago, SydneyRoosters said: We can’t act like the results don’t matter, the fact is having 60-90 point wins every 1 or 2 games is not good for our sport and does no favours. It just makes it more of a mockery when we have a team of 96% Domestic born players getting destroyed by a team with 8% Domestic born players. All it does is make a mockery of our game, Imagine if a union fan saw this result, they would be laughing there ass off. They need to have a look at the Women's RU World Cup where England put 75 on South Africa "I am the avenging angel; I come with wings unfurled, I come with claws extended from halfway round the world. I am the God Almighty, I am the howling wind. I care not for your family; I care not for your kin. I come in search of terror, though terror is my own; I come in search of vengeance for crimes and crimes unknown. I care not for your children, I care not for your wives, I care not for your country, I care not for your lives." - (c) Jim Boyes - "The Avenging Angel" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corkonian77 Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, JohnM said: Indeed they do. Connacht, Ulster and Munster in Union have used this rule to bring in Irish qualified players. One New Zealand born Irish League International played for Connacht in Union. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Picture Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, Phil said: The vast majority of sports recognise and employ the grandparent ruling, which are these “real international” sports you refer to? No that's not true at all. Basketball, handball, hockey, ice hockey, lacrosse and apparently now cricket too base eligibility on nationality/citizenship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Harry Stottle said: Yep those same player's, if they played again next week how many would you give Samoa start? That is a very good question. I have looked at all the odds to win and reach the final. I imagine 6-8 points start for Samoa would be what the bookmakers would offer. England v Tonga I think 2-4 start for Tonga. These are based on me predicting with regard to their odds now, as opposed to what I think. Would this be about right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Picture Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 32 minutes ago, JohnM said: Easy peasy. As I pointed out a few pages ago, you are entitled to Irish citizenship if one of your grandparents was born there. My guess is that quite a few English, Scottish, NZ and Aus players have a grandparent born in Ireland. Those players would be eligible, but they'd have to apply for it to get it. So make them do that and show their seriousness if they want to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 45 minutes ago, Davo5 said: The big mystery is they are really competitive at youth level with England & there is more French players playing at Superleague level but they still struggle at full international level,some of which can be put down lack of test rugby but not all. For me it is just simple mathematics. England used to struggle against Australia at youth level and yet we have seen the England Academy defeat the Australian Schoolboys in several series over the last couple decades but that hasn't translated to international success just as the French competitiveness at youth level hasn't translated to success either. England have more players playing at a good professional level than France and that advantage means a better squad. Australia has more players playing at a better level than England. If you can draw on a bigger pool of better players then you will have the best side. 3 "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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