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Sun 30 Oct: RLWC: Samoa v France KO 17:00


Who will win?  

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  1. 1. Who will win?

    • Samoa by 13 points or more
      22
    • Samoa by 7 to 12 points
      17
    • Samoa by 1 to 6 points
      1
    • France by 1 to 6 points
      10
    • France by 7 to 12 points
      13
    • France by 13 points or more
      1

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3 minutes ago, Big Picture said:

Make the majority of players have citizenship in the country they represent like a real international sport and the problem wouldn't exist.

Like Football,cricket,rugby Union,athletics,oh wait a minute.

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This France team are very poor and way off the pace of the elite nations and even the tier below that. I think we always talk up how things are improving in France out of hopefulness, but on the international stage at least they seem as bad as they've ever been.

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18 minutes ago, SydneyRoosters said:

😂 remember when you said Samoa would destroy England

Nope didn't happen.  Again more false claims from you.  Thats a few this week now.  Not having  a good time of it are you. 

Parody accounts should be removed from this forum.

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4 minutes ago, eal said:

This France team are very poor and way off the pace of the elite nations and even the tier below that. I think we always talk up how things are improving in France out of hopefulness, but on the international stage at least they seem as bad as they've ever been.

The big mystery is they are really competitive at youth level with England & there is more French players playing at Superleague level but they still struggle at full international level,some of which can be put down lack of test rugby but not all.

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Just now, Davo5 said:

The big mystery is they are really competitive at youth level with England & there is more French players playing at Superleague level but they still struggle at full international level,some of which can be put down lack of test rugby but not all.

I know, you would think the Catalans and Toulouse guys would actually look like seasoned professionals out there, instead they don't look much better than the Greeks and Jamaicans.

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1 minute ago, Ragingbull said:

Nope didn't happen.  Again more false claims from you.  Thats a few this week now.  Not having  a good time of it are you. 

Parody accounts should be removed from this forum.

False Claim 😂

You said the exact same thing, you called me a parody account/Troll about 10 times because I said England would destroy Samoa.

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25 minutes ago, Big Picture said:

Make the majority of players have citizenship in the country they represent like a real international sport and the problem wouldn't exist.

The vast majority of sports recognise and employ the grandparent ruling, which are these “real international” sports you refer to? 

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28 minutes ago, Big Picture said:

Make the majority of players have citizenship in the country they represent like a real international sport and the problem wouldn't exist.

Easy peasy. As I pointed out a few pages ago, you are entitled to Irish citizenship if one of your grandparents was born there. My guess is that quite a few English, Scottish, NZ and Aus players have a grandparent born in Ireland.

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50 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

Kept off this thread for the whole game, I should imagine there are quite a few who will have red faces with not only with their predictions but the quality they gave these respective teams and some of the individuals on show, no names but the same person said that Milford was finished and Lui was just a show pony.

This was effectively a select SL v NRL clash, the French lads could not live with the power, speed, organisation and skills of their opponents.

I shall wait till next week to decide if I was wrong about Samoa.

If they beat Tonga and get to the semi finals then I will hold my hand up and say that I have underestimated them.

But if they bow out in the quarters after wins against Greece and France and a 60 point hammering from England then they will have had a poor World Cup.

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7 minutes ago, JohnM said:

Easy peasy. As I pointed out a few pages ago, you are entitled to Irish citizenship if one of your grandparents was born there. My guess is that quite a few English, Scottish, NZ and Aus players have a grandparent born in Ireland.

Most Irish  sports have players born abroad who represent  Ireland  due to an Irish  Passport. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, SydneyRoosters said:

We can’t act like the results don’t matter, the fact is having 60-90 point wins every 1 or 2 games is not good for our sport and does no favours. It just makes it more of a mockery when we have a team of 96% Domestic born players getting destroyed by a team with 8% Domestic born players. All it does is make a mockery of our game, Imagine if a union fan saw this result, they would be laughing there ass off.

They need to have a look at the Women's RU World Cup where England put 75 on South Africa

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3 minutes ago, Phil said:

The vast majority of sports recognise and employ the grandparent ruling, which are these “real international” sports you refer to? 

No that's not true at all.  Basketball, handball, hockey, ice hockey, lacrosse and apparently now cricket too base eligibility on nationality/citizenship.

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1 hour ago, Harry Stottle said:

Yep those same player's, if they played again next week how many would you give Samoa start?

That is a very good question. 

I have looked at all the odds to win and reach the final.

I imagine 6-8 points start for Samoa would be what the bookmakers would offer. England v Tonga I think 2-4 start for Tonga. 

These are based on me predicting with regard to their odds now, as opposed to what I think.

Would this be about right?

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32 minutes ago, JohnM said:

Easy peasy. As I pointed out a few pages ago, you are entitled to Irish citizenship if one of your grandparents was born there. My guess is that quite a few English, Scottish, NZ and Aus players have a grandparent born in Ireland.

Those players would be eligible, but they'd have to apply for it to get it.  So make them do that and show their seriousness if they want to play.

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45 minutes ago, Davo5 said:

The big mystery is they are really competitive at youth level with England & there is more French players playing at Superleague level but they still struggle at full international level,some of which can be put down lack of test rugby but not all.

For me it is just simple mathematics.

England used to struggle against Australia at youth level and yet we have seen the England Academy defeat the Australian Schoolboys in several series over the last couple decades but that hasn't translated to international success just as the French competitiveness at youth level hasn't translated to success either.

England have more players playing at a good professional level than France and that advantage means a better squad.  Australia has more players playing at a better level than England.

If you can draw on a bigger pool of better players then you will have the best side.

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