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Sat 22 July : Betfred RL Challenge Cup Semi Final : St Helens v Leigh Leopards KO 14:30 BBC1


Who will win?  

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  1. 1. Who will win?

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1 minute ago, sam4731 said:

Interesting. Seems to have gone quiet when a clear shepherd off the ball is ignored.

It was a contest for the ball according to the VR and I have utmost respect for the officials, they do a marvellous job in difficult circumstances.

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2 minutes ago, dkw said:

I mean that's not shoulder to shoulder is it.

The video ref claimed it was shoulder to shoulder on the first angle then a second angle showed it blatantly wasn't. 

Unfortunately referees rather than admit they said something wrong tend to go all in on the initial call. When the angle which showed he was basically pushed out the way for the 2nd time the video ref decided to emphasise it was a fair challenge. 

On another note Welsbys positioning was absolutely shocking which will probably go unnoticed.

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2 minutes ago, dkw said:

I mean that's not shoulder to shoulder is it.

I thought it just had to be contact with the shoulder only, and not a push.

5. Shoulder Charge If two players are running side by side near to and towards the ball it is permissible for one to charge the other with the shoulder.

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Brain dead from Matautia there, summat that's been penalised all season and he goes through with it and has a ten minute rest.

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2 minutes ago, JonM said:

I thought it just had to be contact with the shoulder only, and not a push.

5. Shoulder Charge If two players are running side by side near to and towards the ball it is permissible for one to charge the other with the shoulder.

No one is calling this a shoulder charge, he shepherded him off the ball. Stonewall penalty.

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5 minutes ago, Old Frightful said:

It was a contest for the ball according to the VR and I have utmost respect for the officials, they do a marvellous job in difficult circumstances.

And they get it right again.

They're having a blinder.

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Just now, hindle xiii said:

Never write off the something or other.

I was tempted but thought it might have been a bit predictable...or bori...

Oh never mind.

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Stupid and reckless from Leigh, no need for it when they have a man advantage.

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That Lomax kick summed them up but they get another chance.

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6 minutes ago, sam4731 said:

No one is calling this a shoulder charge, he shepherded him off the ball. Stonewall penalty.

The referee, video referee, BBC commentary team including ex an international player and coach all thought it was a try, so that's good enough for me.

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If a player stands up after they claim a try and then throw the ball away, why do they get to play it again.

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1 minute ago, Dunbar said:

If a player stands up after they claim a try and then throw the ball away, why do they get to play it again.

How many players wait for the referee to signal a try before they throw the ball away?

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Just now, sam4731 said:

How many players wait for the referee to signal a try before they throw the ball away?

They usually are pretty confident they've scored to be fair.

Saints still fighting, great finish here.

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Selfless charge from Paasi but he looks like he's paid for it.

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3 minutes ago, sam4731 said:

How many players wait for the referee to signal a try before they throw the ball away?

Yes, fair enough.

I have just been back to have a look and I thought it was before the referee called time off but it was after.

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