All Super League Matches Live - Confirmed

[gingerjon]

Just now, Dave T said:

Sorry, I could have been clearer, the finances comment was regarding the overall drop in income that the recent deals have seen. IN terms of hard cash, I think we have left ourselves in a weak position due to the historic performance, but at least this deal has the opportunity to be genuinely transformational if it's done as well as it can be.

Ah okay, understood.

My base line on this now is that, given there is no more money coming in from broadcast and we can get all games out there for free (to the clubs), then it is a no brainer to do so.

[Dave T]

1 minute ago, gingerjon said:

Ah okay, understood.

My base line on this now is that, given there is no more money coming in from broadcast and we can get all games out there for free (to the clubs), then it is a no brainer to do so.

I agree. It's not like we have actively chosen to take a low deal in exchange for this, it is more likely that we have had to battle for every scrap of cash and production that we have. 

It's now up to us to make the most of this. Onwards and upwards.

[Futtocks]

15 minutes ago, Dave T said:

I agree. It's not like we have actively chosen to take a low deal in exchange for this, it is more likely that we have had to battle for every scrap of cash and production that we have. 

It's now up to us to make the most of this. Onwards and upwards.

On the more positive side, you could say that the coverage is a payment in kind that, had it been in cash, might have been frittered away by some clubs on something less fundamentally long-term valuable to the sport as a whole.

[Dave T]

1 hour ago, Futtocks said:

On the more positive side, you could say that the coverage is a payment in kind that, had it been in cash, might have been frittered away by some clubs on something less fundamentally long-term valuable to the sport as a whole.

I personally don't like language that suggests clubs waste money - they spend it on running clubs, I don't think I'd describe any of them as wasteful - if anything, maybe a little too frugal!

But I agree with the point you are making on this is actually a positive development (one that has been discussed for a while) and is finally over the line. Whether this is IMG's influence or not who knows, but we've never done this before.

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[Bedfordshire Bronco]

Great for SL fans down south especially those that are a specific SL club fan 

Being able to watch all your clubs games should ramp up interest in general 

[FearTheVee]

4 minutes ago, Bedfordshire Bronco said:

Great for SL fans down south especially those that are a specific SL club fan 

Being able to watch all your clubs games should ramp up interest in general 

I haven’t yet had the courage to tell my wife that every SL game is going to be televised.

[sentoffagain2]

    This is the way i suggested months ago.If SL keep reducing contract money limit them to 2 or 3 games a weekend and seek alternative revenue for the others.Hope it brings extra cash into the game but start giving a bit more to the bottom and work up rather than top down.But we all know watching a live game is the most enjoyable option.(if your side wins).

[Dave T]

Gary Carter of the Sun suggesting the additional games will be shown on PPV basis.... 

[Rovers13]

1 minute ago, Dave T said:

Gary Carter of the Sun suggesting the additional games will be shown on PPV basis.... 

that will be interesting if true, wonder where the money will go surely not to sky? 

[Spidey]

41 minutes ago, Dave T said:

Gary Carter of the Sun suggesting the additional games will be shown on PPV basis.... 

FFS that suggests through our league. Hardly the most stable platform 

[Dave T]

Just now, Spidey said:

FFS that suggests through our league. Hardly the most stable platform 

His article says through OurLeague and Sky Platforms on PPV. 

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/24459702/super-league-rugby-tv-channel-4-france/

[gingerjon]

45 minutes ago, Dave T said:

Gary Carter of the Sun suggesting the additional games will be shown on PPV basis.... 

*endlessly bangs head against wall*

The profit from such a thing is so miniscule and all visibility is lost.

Bunch of muppets.

[Rugbyleaguesupporter]

It's a bit unclear- but I think it might be through Our league on PPV or Sky 

If Sky do PPV then I suspect exrra efl rights they hae will follow suit 

[Eddie]

On 14/10/2023 at 16:00, Dave T said:

I doubt it tbh. We haven't been able to get a French partner to pay for coverage for years. 

Since Elstone stopped it. 

[Leyther_Matt]

22 minutes ago, Rugbyleaguesupporter said:

It's a bit unclear- but I think it might be through Our league on PPV or Sky 

If Sky do PPV then I suspect exrra efl rights they hae will follow suit 

If following the EFL pattern, Sky subscribers can watch on Red Button (with one game live on the Football channel). Non-Sky subscribers pay a tenner to watch iFollow. 

[Dave T]

52 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

*endlessly bangs head against wall*

The profit from such a thing is so miniscule and all visibility is lost.

Bunch of muppets.

I hope its just a mistaken interpretation from Carter. 

[Dave T]

36 minutes ago, Rugbyleaguesupporter said:

It's a bit unclear- but I think it might be through Our league on PPV or Sky 

If Sky do PPV then I suspect exrra efl rights they hae will follow suit 

If the games can be watched on Sky, it makes an OurLeague PPV match a really tough sell. 

[Dave T]

29 minutes ago, Eddie said:

Since Elstone stopped it. 

I think there was an element of urban myth around that, it's also been quoted that we used to pay for that coverage. 

Elstone's long gone and nobody has taken the rights. 

[Archie Gordon]

Won't be ouRLeague, will be the IMG streaming platform.

[gingerjon]

25 minutes ago, Archie Gordon said:

Won't be ouRLeague, will be the IMG streaming platform.

PPV to the tiny number of people supporting either side but not attending *and* neutral RL fans (no chance at all of sporting casuals) still looking for a game after a weekend of live SL and NRL fixtures available via subscription is madness whatever the platform.

[Archie Gordon]

1 minute ago, gingerjon said:

PPV to the tiny number of people supporting either side but not attending *and* neutral RL fans (no chance at all of sporting casuals) still looking for a game after a weekend of live SL and NRL fixtures available via subscription is madness whatever the platform.

It doesn't make sense to me either but just wanted to point out that SL games won't be on ouRLeague, they'll be on a new "SL-owned streaming platform".

[Harry Stottle]

On 17/10/2023 at 20:21, Dave T said:

I agree. It's not like we have actively chosen to take a low deal in exchange for this, it is more likely that we have had to battle for every scrap of cash and production that we have. 

It's now up to us to make the most of this. Onwards and upwards.

As with your first paragraph Dave, I believe that Sky had decided what their proposal would be and spelt it out to the RL delegates with no alternatives and a take it or leave it ultimatum with full knowledge that there would not be a better 'cash in hand' money offer coming from elsewhere.

[Dave T]

2 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

As with your first paragraph Dave, I believe that Sky had decided what their proposal would be and spelt it out to the RL delegates with no alternatives and a take it or leave it ultimatum with full knowledge that there would not be a better 'cash in hand' money offer coming from elsewhere.

I'm not too sure how that differs from any other negotiation, Sky will have a valuation and a budget. 

But we do see numbers vary from starting at £17m to Gary Carter's £23m - although I take them all with a pinch of salt. 

A problem is we do have a rather weak hand, Sky have let many sports go over recent years, they will survive without us, we would struggle without them. That has to be a major focus for RL Com. 

[Harry Stottle]

9 hours ago, Eddie said:

Since Elstone stopped it. 

On the advice of certain SL Chairmen/Owners, anyone who considers Mr Elstone had Carte Blanche in decision making is deluding themselves, he was merely the marionette that had his strings pulled.