Welshleaguelover Posted October 12 Posted October 12 On 11/10/2024 at 14:09, hunsletgreenandgold said: So....which SL club is going to take a punt on Josh Ado-Carr? Sounds like he'll definitely be leaving Bulldogs and with the potential for the NRL to still impose a punishment against him, talks in Oz that he could cut his losses and look for a lucrative move to SL. Ordinarily i'd have said this was a prime Catalans signing but that won't happen with their new recruits. Leigh maybe? He'll end up at South Sydney.
Harry Stottle Posted October 12 Posted October 12 41 minutes ago, sweaty craiq said: We (Leigh) are signing really well imo - very happy and can’t wait for the SL incomings Are they SL Players, or like for like with a lot of those we have let go that has not made it to the Leopards first team? Like you though can't wait to find out, hopefully not disappointed.
Farmduck Posted October 12 Posted October 12 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said: Are they SL Players, or like for like with a lot of those we have let go that has not made it to the Leopards first team? Like you though can't wait to find out, hopefully not disappointed. Tesi Niu and Isaac Liu should be good signings. Liu has played 20+ NRL games in 10 of the last 11 seasons so he's not injury-prone and at 33 he could have 2 good years left. Tesi Niu would have played a lot more first grade at the Dolphins if they hadn't bought Herbie Farnworth. He still managed about 16 first grade games in a season in a Broncos backline that already had Isaako, Xavier Coates, Herbie, Staggs, Cobbo, Oates. Ben Condon? Hasn't played much NRL. Edited October 12 by Farmduck 1
sweaty craiq Posted October 12 Posted October 12 Condon is the Amone/O'Donnell signing - young with potential that has not really had the opportunity. Looked very good as covid broke. Wont be big money also
phiggins Posted October 12 Posted October 12 5 hours ago, Harry Stottle said: Are they SL Players, or like for like with a lot of those we have let go that has not made it to the Leopards first team? Like you though can't wait to find out, hopefully not disappointed. I'll be surprised if any of the domestic signings are players that will go straight into the starting 13, unless there's a goalkicking centre / winger among them. Names I've seen reported are Brad Marting (Cas), Andy Badrock (Swinton) and AJ Towse (York), and likely all be seen as projects similar to Brogan and McNamara.
NRLandSL Posted October 12 Posted October 12 6 hours ago, Farmduck said: Tesi Niu and Isaac Liu should be good signings. Liu has played 20+ NRL games in 10 of the last 11 seasons so he's not injury-prone and at 33 he could have 2 good years left. Tesi Niu would have played a lot more first grade at the Dolphins if they hadn't bought Herbie Farnworth. He still managed about 16 first grade games in a season in a Broncos backline that already had Isaako, Xavier Coates, Herbie, Staggs, Cobbo, Oates. Ben Condon? Hasn't played much NRL. David Armstrong aswell who is a fantasic signing. Only played 5 games for Newcastle but was sensational scoring 5 tries and averaging 162 metres a game. Very very quick, could become a great player.
The Future is League Posted October 13 Posted October 13 14 hours ago, NRLandSL said: David Armstrong aswell who is a fantasic signing. Only played 5 games for Newcastle but was sensational scoring 5 tries and averaging 162 metres a game. Very very quick, could become a great player. Which again shows the value of having clubs outside the heartlands. 2 1
phiggins Posted October 14 Posted October 14 20 hours ago, The Future is League said: Which again shows the value of having clubs outside the heartlands. Are you suggesting that Super League expands to Central Coast, NSW? 1
Harry Stottle Posted October 14 Posted October 14 20 hours ago, The Future is League said: Which again shows the value of having clubs outside the heartlands. Are you suggesting Newcastle is outside the heartlands? They were one of the original members of the Sydney competition in 1908, then moved to their own local comp in 1910 under the banner of Northern Branch of the New South Wales Rugby League. 1
The Future is League Posted October 14 Posted October 14 8 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said: Are you suggesting Newcastle is outside the heartlands? They were one of the original members of the Sydney competition in 1908, then moved to their own local comp in 1910 under the banner of Northern Branch of the New South Wales Rugby League. Newcastle is over 130 miles from the M62, and I'm surprised you didn't know. 2
Harry Stottle Posted October 14 Posted October 14 2 minutes ago, The Future is League said: Newcastle is over 130 miles from the M62, and I'm surprised you didn't know. You can do better than that! 1
The Future is League Posted October 14 Posted October 14 23 minutes ago, phiggins said: Are you suggesting that Super League expands to Central Coast, NSW? The Central coast is less than a 100 miles from Newcastle. I'm surprised you didn't that.
The Future is League Posted October 14 Posted October 14 Just now, Harry Stottle said: You can do better than that! OK. Geography was obviously not your strongest subject at school
phiggins Posted October 15 Posted October 15 1 hour ago, LeytherRob said: I do wonder how many of these signings will be genuinely challenging for a place in the starting 13, apart from the NRL signings brought in to replace Leutele, O'Donnell, Amone and Asiata.
Andrewj Posted October 15 Posted October 15 29 minutes ago, phiggins said: I do wonder how many of these signings will be genuinely challenging for a place in the starting 13, apart from the NRL signings brought in to replace Leutele, O'Donnell, Amone and Asiata. Brad Martin was a starting 13 for Castleford so I would think he has a shoe in at Leigh
phiggins Posted October 15 Posted October 15 32 minutes ago, Andrewj said: Brad Martin was a starting 13 for Castleford so I would think he has a shoe in at Leigh Sorry, not sure I follow. Are you saying that because he started for Cas (not sure he even featured in the 17 second half of the season, but that's a different matter) that he'd automatically be a shoe in for a team that finished 16 points above them?
LeytherRob Posted October 15 Posted October 15 1 hour ago, phiggins said: I do wonder how many of these signings will be genuinely challenging for a place in the starting 13, apart from the NRL signings brought in to replace Leutele, O'Donnell, Amone and Asiata. The goal of the recruitment this year was to start building for the future and add more youth and pace. The starting 13 was never going to change much anyway except for the direct swaps of the incoming and outgoing imports as it’s a team that’s gone 5th back to back. Martin will be 3rd or 4th choice second row(Condon and Halton will have those locked down) but he’s got his best years ahead and there is no reason he can’t force his way into the team in the years ahead. Don’t forget, this time 2 years ago people would have said similar about Umyla Hanley being a signing that wouldn’t be troubling the first team, but he’s nailed himself down for that right centre moving forward. The fringe players coming in likely won’t get a great deal of game time initially but it’s about developing the squad long term as it isn’t sustainable to keep buying first 17 players and it’ll be a few years before the academy starts to bear fruit so younger signings are needed to bridge that gap. In terms of the next one to break into the team, I’d be surprised if Louis Brogan doesn’t get an increased level of game time this year coming into his second year of full time RL.
Snowys Backside Posted October 15 Posted October 15 Leigh desperately need another quality Centre. If Moylan stays, he could well remain FB with Armstrong on the Wing. I wouldn't mind a really nasty running stand off too, but Ipape could easily fit that bill if required. Leigh really need to play a different brand of Rugby next season if they are to improve further on the past 2 seasons.
LeytherRob Posted October 16 Posted October 16 1 hour ago, Snowys Backside said: Leigh desperately need another quality Centre. If Moylan stays, he could well remain FB with Armstrong on the Wing. I wouldn't mind a really nasty running stand off too, but Ipape could easily fit that bill if required. Leigh really need to play a different brand of Rugby next season if they are to improve further on the past 2 seasons. Not a chance we’d want to waste Armstrong on a wing. Armstrong, McIntosh, Hanley, Nui and Charnley will start next season at 1-5. If Moylan stays he plays 6.
Snowys Backside Posted October 16 Posted October 16 5 hours ago, LeytherRob said: Not a chance we’d want to waste Armstrong on a wing. Armstrong, McIntosh, Hanley, Nui and Charnley will start next season at 1-5. If Moylan stays he plays 6. No disrespect Rob, but that isn't a top 4 back line. No size at all other than Nui and there is no point having the pace of Armstrong if there is no platform beforehand. He is not the type of player to use as a battering ram. Hanley more than capable on the wing but another Centre required in my opinion (Konrad Hurrell esq) Should really have kept Leutele for another year as he was one of the top 3 Centres in the second half of the season 1
LeytherRob Posted October 16 Posted October 16 3 hours ago, Snowys Backside said: No disrespect Rob, but that isn't a top 4 back line. No size at all other than Nui and there is no point having the pace of Armstrong if there is no platform beforehand. He is not the type of player to use as a battering ram. Hanley more than capable on the wing but another Centre required in my opinion (Konrad Hurrell esq) Should really have kept Leutele for another year as he was one of the top 3 Centres in the second half of the season Well you don’t sign a marquee fullback to put them on the wing, and Armstrong is a far more capable yardage player than Moylan would be at 1, not to mention taller better under the high ball. That aside, I don’t understand the logic of your argument since wingers have to do way more yardage work as a battering ram than a fullback does in the modern game, often against a set defensive line. You want your fastest player in the most open field against the most broken defence. As to whether it’s a top 4 backline, we will have to wait and see, but the majority of that back line has just finished in the top 4.
phiggins Posted October 16 Posted October 16 4 hours ago, Snowys Backside said: No disrespect Rob, but that isn't a top 4 back line. No size at all other than Nui and there is no point having the pace of Armstrong if there is no platform beforehand. He is not the type of player to use as a battering ram. Hanley more than capable on the wing but another Centre required in my opinion (Konrad Hurrell esq) Should really have kept Leutele for another year as he was one of the top 3 Centres in the second half of the season I don't think we can really bring in a ready made top 4 level backline sadly. Given our lack of academy & reserves, we likely get the least value for salary cap in the league (through our own decisions admittedly). Hanley exceeded my expectations when he moved to centre. His defence held up, better than Hardaker's who dropped off too many tackles in that position. And probably had as many try involvements in half a season as Hardaker had in a season and a half. I think if we can get a decent stand off next to him, he'll do well next year. Unfortunately, O'Brien was caught in posession too often, and rarely got any sort of ball to the outside backs on that side. I wouldn't be against putting Charnley on the right wing, where his experience and positioning might be more useful in defence, and he'll still score tries, and see how McIntosh or Towse get on on the left wing.
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