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Just been looking at the appointed Thusday night fixtures throughout the season, how have they been allocated and by whom?

There is absolutely no equilibrium on the number of fixtures each club has been awarded they range from Wigan only having one Thursday fixture throughout '25 whilst Leigh have the most with 7, other clubs range from 2 to 6, for those who are interested:-

Castleford - 6

Catalan  - 3

Huddersfied  - 3

Hull FC - 4

Hull KR - 4

Leeds - 5

Leigh -7

Salford - 5

Saints - 3

Wakefield  - 4

Warrington - 2

Wigan- 1.

I don't think it takes much working out that Thursday Fixtures are the worst attended by visiting fans especially cross Pennine encounters, so can anyone advise how each club has been allocated what it has recieved.

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M j M
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If your first thought upon reading a general Rugby League story is "it must be all about Leigh" then you probably need to give your instincts a shake. I'll leave your over-estimates of Leigh's co

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Ideally, the 11 English clubs would split the Thursday games as evenly as possible. But with various clubs needing longish spells without home games, and other factors that need to be fed into the fix

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M j M

Both clubs playing should get one for each Thursday appearance by the logic of this calculation. So say 23 Thursday games would give 46 appearances total.

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It’s a very good call out Harry. Maybe cross reference of the number of games each team has (home) that they host a nearby opponent. That may give a little bit more clarity but not much I expect. It does look like a massive imbalance.

There was a time where the Broncos almost exclusively played home games on a Friday night. Pleased that stranglehold was finally thwarted.

Martyn Sadler

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16 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

Just been looking at the appointed Thusday night fixtures throughout the season, how have they been allocated and by whom?

There is absolutely no equilibrium on the number of fixtures each club has been awarded they range from Wigan only having one Thursday fixture throughout '25 whilst Leigh have the most with 7, other clubs range from 2 to 6, for those who are interested:-

Castleford - 6

Catalan  - 3

Huddersfied  - 3

Hull FC - 4

Hull KR - 4

Leeds - 5

Leigh -7

Salford - 5

Saints - 3

Wakefield  - 4

Warrington - 2

Wigan- 1.

I don't think it takes much working out that Thursday Fixtures are the worst attended by visiting fans especially cross Pennine encounters, so can anyone advise how each club has been allocated what it has recieved.

Very interesting but just check on the figures.

The total comes to 47.

It should of course be an even number.

fighting irish

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1 hour ago, Harry Stottle said:

Just been looking at the appointed Thusday night fixtures throughout the season, how have they been allocated and by whom?

There is absolutely no equilibrium on the number of fixtures each club has been awarded they range from Wigan only having one Thursday fixture throughout '25 whilst Leigh have the most with 7, other clubs range from 2 to 6, for those who are interested:-

Castleford - 6

Catalan  - 3

Huddersfied  - 3

Hull FC - 4

Hull KR - 4

Leeds - 5

Leigh -7

Salford - 5

Saints - 3

Wakefield  - 4

Warrington - 2

Wigan- 1.

I don't think it takes much working out that Thursday Fixtures are the worst attended by visiting fans especially cross Pennine encounters, so can anyone advise how each club has been allocated what it has recieved.

That doesn't seem fair 'Arry, does it? 

fighting irish

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44 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/ranking-every-super-league-club-by-thursday-games-in-2025-with-one-on-seven-times

As reported here.

As an aside, I'm trying to organise a visit to the Leopards for a home game, bringing my wife and our daughter's family (her husband and our granddaughter). I think a weekend would be favourite, which match would you recommend Harry? 

Griff

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1 hour ago, Martyn Sadler said:

Very interesting but just check on the figures.

The total comes to 47.

It should of course be an even number.

Ehhhhh - educational standards in Lancashire.

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3 hours ago, Martyn Sadler said:

Very interesting but just check on the figures.

The total comes to 47.

It should of course be an even number.

Sorry, I may be missing something here but why should it come to an even number?

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M j M

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1 minute ago, Dunbar said:

Sorry, I may be missing something here but why should it come to an even number?

Both clubs playing should get one for each Thursday appearance by the logic of this calculation.

So say 23 Thursday games would give 46 appearances total.

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Dunbar

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5 minutes ago, M j M said:

Both clubs playing should get one for each Thursday appearance by the logic of this calculation.

So say 23 Thursday games would give 46 appearances total.

I see, thanks.

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I was just about at the end of typing a long post on this and an ad popped up.... when I closed it all my text was gone.

I'm not typing it again.  An awful user experience. 

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"The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby.

"If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris

Taffy Tiger

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5 hours ago, Martyn Sadler said:

Very interesting but just check on the figures.

The total comes to 47.

It should of course be an even number.

Hi Martyn ,  have checked and Cas only have 5 

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4 hours ago, Harry Stottle said:

Just been looking at the appointed Thusday night fixtures throughout the season, how have they been allocated and by whom?

There is absolutely no equilibrium on the number of fixtures each club has been awarded they range from Wigan only having one Thursday fixture throughout '25 whilst Leigh have the most with 7, other clubs range from 2 to 6, for those who are interested:-

Castleford - 6

Catalan  - 3

Huddersfied  - 3

Hull FC - 4

Hull KR - 4

Leeds - 5

Leigh -7

Salford - 5

Saints - 3

Wakefield  - 4

Warrington - 2

Wigan- 1.

I don't think it takes much working out that Thursday Fixtures are the worst attended by visiting fans especially cross Pennine encounters, so can anyone advise how each club has been allocated what it has recieved.

Hi Harry , on the whole I would agree with you , Thursday night games are not good for travelling supporters , however on the plus side they will be stand alone games with exclusive coverage on main Sky Sports channels which should help viewership when compared to games on skysports+ only and in some cases with clashing kick-off times.

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I think Harry has a fair concern here - and I don't always agree with him.

It would be good to know if there was a particular formula that was used here. It would make sense to give clubs the option to state a preferred day and time for home games, and guarantee a certain number of games in that slot to the extent it is possible. Then the rest should be carved up equally: I think we can safely assume nobody would choose Thursday night and most clubs would be happy to go to Catalans on a Saturday.

I can confirm 30+ less sales for Scotland vs Italy at Workington, after this afternoons test purchase for the Tonga match, £7.50 is extremely reasonable, however a £2.50 'delivery' fee for a walk in purchase is beyond taking the mickey, good luck with that, it's cheaper on the telly.

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4 hours ago, Sports Prophet said:

It’s a very good call out Harry. Maybe cross 

I used to love Harry Cross

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Griff

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1 hour ago, Dunbar said:

Sorry, I may be missing something here but why should it come to an even number?

Or put another way, there are two teams at every game.

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11 minutes ago, Griff said:

Or put another way, there are two teams at every game.

My confusion was because I thought the first post was about Thursday evening home games.

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Harry Stottle

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Discussing this today a Leigh fan came up with an explanation which could be feasible but I would like to see proof of it:-

He said that there has been discussions between Sky and Reebok the manufacturer and provider of Leigh Leopards kit for this coming season, and that this tie up with Leigh by a manufacturer is of a bigger value ever than has ever been awarded in Rugby League, apparently Reebok - so I was told - wanted as much TV exposure as possible, and by securing Thursday night games which are on the main Sky channels that are available to all subscribers and not to just RL nerds who sek out and frequent the Skysports+ channels.

As I say I would like to see proof of it, but one consideration is that it must suit Mr Beaumont for whatever the reason as I have not heard anything from that direction.

 

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30 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

Discussing this today a Leigh fan came up with an explanation which could be feasible but I would like to see proof of it:-

He said that there has been discussions between Sky and Reebok the manufacturer and provider of Leigh Leopards kit for this coming season, and that this tie up with Leigh by a manufacturer is of a bigger value ever than has ever been awarded in Rugby League, apparently Reebok - so I was told - wanted as much TV exposure as possible, and by securing Thursday night games which are on the main Sky channels that are available to all subscribers and not to just RL nerds who sek out and frequent the Skysports+ channels.

As I say I would like to see proof of it, but one consideration is that it must suit Mr Beaumont for whatever the reason as I have not heard anything from that direction.

 

Sounds like rubbish to me Harry, I doubt actual Reebok know anything about it.

The Manufacturer and supplier isn’t any different to Patrick

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30 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

Discussing this today a Leigh fan came up with an explanation which could be feasible but I would like to see proof of it:-

He said that there has been discussions between Sky and Reebok the manufacturer and provider of Leigh Leopards kit for this coming season, and that this tie up with Leigh by a manufacturer is of a bigger value ever than has ever been awarded in Rugby League, apparently Reebok - so I was told - wanted as much TV exposure as possible, and by securing Thursday night games which are on the main Sky channels that are available to all subscribers and not to just RL nerds who sek out and frequent the Skysports+ channels.

As I say I would like to see proof of it, but one consideration is that it must suit Mr Beaumont for whatever the reason as I have not heard anything from that direction.

 

If your first thought upon reading a general Rugby League story is "it must be all about Leigh" then you probably need to give your instincts a shake.

I'll leave your over-estimates of Leigh's commercial deals relative to other clubs to others to pick apart.

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2 hours ago, Harry Stottle said:

Discussing this today a Leigh fan came up with an explanation which could be feasible but I would like to see proof of it:-

He said that there has been discussions between Sky and Reebok the manufacturer and provider of Leigh Leopards kit for this coming season, and that this tie up with Leigh by a manufacturer is of a bigger value ever than has ever been awarded in Rugby League, apparently Reebok - so I was told - wanted as much TV exposure as possible, and by securing Thursday night games which are on the main Sky channels that are available to all subscribers and not to just RL nerds who sek out and frequent the Skysports+ channels.

As I say I would like to see proof of it, but one consideration is that it must suit Mr Beaumont for whatever the reason as I have not heard anything from that direction.

 

There's no guarantee that the Thursday games will be the Sky main channel selections.

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42 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

There's no guarantee that the Thursday games will be the Sky main channel selections.

They aren't on many weeks.

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3 hours ago, Harry Stottle said:

Discussing this today a Leigh fan came up with an explanation which could be feasible but I would like to see proof of it:-

He said that there has been discussions between Sky and Reebok the manufacturer and provider of Leigh Leopards kit for this coming season, and that this tie up with Leigh by a manufacturer is of a bigger value ever than has ever been awarded in Rugby League, apparently Reebok - so I was told - wanted as much TV exposure as possible, and by securing Thursday night games which are on the main Sky channels that are available to all subscribers and not to just RL nerds who sek out and frequent the Skysports+ channels.

As I say I would like to see proof of it, but one consideration is that it must suit Mr Beaumont for whatever the reason as I have not heard anything from that direction.

 

I think it is really good that Leigh will be wearing Reebok branded kits next season, it gives a bit of prestige to the game with a global brand appearing as manufacturer. But we need to be real, Leigh do not have a deal with Reebok any more than the 6 a side team I played last week, "Real Saucydads" have a deal with Nike because they turned up in matching kits with badges on. 

The same company who did the kits last year under the Patrick branding has acquired the Reebok branding, I think it's good but the above is just pure fantasy. Our prestige brands England/GB didn't have a deal with Puma it was a company called Genesis who held the rights in the UK at the time. Wigan, Hull and England didn't even have Hummel, it was a licensee who went bump hence those moving on. That's the level this sport operates at. 

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