Congratulations Denny Solomona

[Kenilworth Tiger]

What a fantastic achievement to break the SL tries in a season record. Issued a few through injury too.

One of the best players to watch at Cas in years

[Ullman]

Well done to him, great achievement for one of the game's entertainers. Superb piece of recruitment by Cas.

[Dave T]

Outstanding achievement, a joy to watch.

He's no Mark Forster but he's ok.

[Railway End]

A fantastic achievement.

As I mentioned in the Stephen Kearney thread, I believe he deserves a place in the NZ team for the 4N's.

[Wellsy4HullFC]

Has he not had one extra game to do this in? The 2004 season had 28 games.

Great achievement nonetheless.

[Futtocks]

Has he not had one extra game to do this in? The 2004 season had 28 games.

Great achievement nonetheless.

Does anyone know if Vainikolo's 2004 record included Cup matches? And how many matches each club played in the playoffs? I'm pretty sure the Bulls got to the Grand Final that year.

[CasTiger7]

Vainikolo achieved his 36 in 26 appearances, Solomona's 37 have come in 27 appearances. Although at least 4 appearances, from what I can remember he played full back, and scored none.

[Lowdesert]

What a fantastic achievement to break the SL tries in a season record. Issued a few through injury too.

One of the best players to watch at Cas in years

One of the best players to watch anywhere in years.

[Jarv]

At only 22 should he be heading back to the NRL at some point and giving that "another" crack? Surely he must have been noticed if the NRL clubs are prepared to eye British wingers (such as Burgess)?

[goldcoaster]

Credit where it is due, he has had a great season.

But any talk whatsoever (and I've heard some already) of him winning MoS would be an embarrassment for the game. Good winger, but wingers shouldn't win MoS. Richards winning it a few years ago was a classic example of Football people applying their logic to our sport.

[Ullman]

Credit where it is due, he has had a great season.

But any talk whatsoever (and I've heard some already) of him winning MoS would be an embarrassment for the game. Good winger, but wingers shouldn't win MoS. Richards winning it a few years ago was a classic example of Football people applying their logic to our sport.

Richards won it 2010. It's been decided by a vote of Super League players since 2008.

[Gates1]

Credit where it is due, he has had a great season.

But any talk whatsoever (and I've heard some already) of him winning MoS would be an embarrassment for the game. Good winger, but wingers shouldn't win MoS. Richards winning it a few years ago was a classic example of Football people applying their logic to our sport.

Why shouldn't a winger win MOS?

[Railway End]

Credit where it is due, he has had a great season.

But any talk whatsoever (and I've heard some already) of him winning MoS would be an embarrassment for the game. Good winger, but wingers shouldn't win MoS. Richards winning it a few years ago was a classic example of Football people applying their logic to our sport.

I was unaware that football people chose any of Rugby League's player awards.

IMO Solomona has to be in the shortlist to take out MoS this year.

[dkw]

Credit where it is due, he has had a great season.

But any talk whatsoever (and I've heard some already) of him winning MoS would be an embarrassment for the game. Good winger, but wingers shouldn't win MoS. Richards winning it a few years ago was a classic example of Football people applying their logic to our sport.

So the best player f the season shouldn't win it because he's a winger? Well that's just pure nonsense.

[MrPosh]

What a fantastic achievement to break the SL tries in a season record. Issued a few through injury too.

One of the best players to watch at Cas in years

All the more remarkable that he's done it in a decent, but not outstanding, Cas side.

Big Les scored his tries as the focal point of the attack of one of the most dominant teams the game has ever known and outside a world class centre in Hape.

I think you could add another (arbitrary) ten tries to Solomona to level the playing field between the two.

[Bomb Jack]

Well done Denny.

 

On a slightly different note, Corey Thompson yesterday beat our "Tries in a season" in the SL era.

 

There's no way anyone will beat Offiah's record of 58 in a season though.

[Tonka]

Of course a winger can win Man of Steel. Well done Denny, still a game to go yet too.

[goldcoaster]

So the best player f the season shouldn't win it because he's a winger? Well that's just pure nonsense.

I just can't see how a winger can win MoS, when wingers have so little influence on the outcome if a match (on a consistent basis). Sure, they score tries, but most of those tries are simply catching the ball and putiing it down (usually from an overlap created by other players), plus they are only on one side of the field.

No doubt scoring lots of tries like Denny has means he is doing a great job, but best player in SL this year? Please. What about the halves, hookers and front-rowers who have far more influence over the course of a game, week-in, week-out.

Why I mentioned about football people is because anyone who is raised on the round-ball game recognises the outstanding players in that sport are usually the ones who score the most goals. The same principal does not apply to our sport though. But I take what you say about the players voting for the MoS. still, no winger (from my knowledge) has ever won the RLPA player of the year award (same as MoS) over here.

[Padge]

I just can't see how a winger can win MoS, when wingers have so little influence on the outcome if a match (on a consistent basis). Sure, they score tries, but most of those tries are simply catching the ball and putiing it down (usually from an overlap created by other players), plus they are only on one side of the field.

No doubt scoring lots of tries like Denny has means he is doing a great job, but best player in SL this year? Please. What about the halves, hookers and front-rowers who have far more influence over the course of a game, week-in, week-out.

Why I mentioned about football people is because anyone who is raised on the round-ball game recognises the outstanding players in that sport are usually the ones who score the most goals. The same principal does not apply to our sport though. But I take what you say about the players voting for the MoS. still, no winger (from my knowledge) has ever won the RLPA player of the year award (same as MoS) over here.

 

 

Your logic means players in only 5  positions can win MoS, Hooker, Loose, Full Back, Stand-Off and Scrum-Half, all the others are positions on one side of the field or the other.

 

have you really thought out your argument. If scoring tries isn't influential maybe you should be watching the other mob.

[Gates1]

I just can't see how a winger can win MoS, when wingers have so little influence on the outcome if a match (on a consistent basis). Sure, they score tries, but most of those tries are simply catching the ball and putiing it down (usually from an overlap created by other players), plus they are only on one side of the field.

No doubt scoring lots of tries like Denny has means he is doing a great job, but best player in SL this year? Please. What about the halves, hookers and front-rowers who have far more influence over the course of a game, week-in, week-out.

Why I mentioned about football people is because anyone who is raised on the round-ball game recognises the outstanding players in that sport are usually the ones who score the most goals. The same principal does not apply to our sport though. But I take what you say about the players voting for the MoS. still, no winger (from my knowledge) has ever won the RLPA player of the year award (same as MoS) over here.

I see it like this :Rugby league is a team sport and every position has a specific role, all of which are intrinsically linked (praise a half back for his performance he will invarably praise his pack for laying a platform). With this in mind IMO MOS should be awarded to the player who has performed their role the best (although that's hard to judge).

Also i think you underestimate the role a bit, its a lot more than scoring walk overs. He has to compete for kicks (attack and defence), find the space to finish tries, defend key attacks, take early carries, etc!

I certainly think Solomona deserves nomination maybe not done enough to win the award though.

[longboard]

We cannot deny dexterous Denny did definitely do damage to opposition defences this season. 

[Gates1]

have you really thought out your argument. If scoring tries isn't influential maybe you should be watching the other mob.

If rumours are to be believed it will be the other mob watching Denny season after next!

[Tex Evans Thigh]

Your logic means players in only 5  positions can win MoS, Hooker, Loose, Full Back, Stand-Off and Scrum-Half, all the others are positions on one side of the field or the other.

 

have you really thought out your argument. If scoring tries isn't influential maybe you should be watching the other mob.

 

Incorrect. Middle unit in every RL side consists of props, hooker and loose. Fullback goes wherever needed, half backs usually take a side so would not count according to your logic assessing his logic. Of course half backs are found quite close to the ruck often as well as having the ball the most other than the hooker so they are always going to be considered.

 

He does have a point though. fullback, halves and hooker are the guys getting the ball the most in key areas so should be in a better position to influence a game. Someone shouldnt be precluded from winning awards due to their position though.

[Padge]

Incorrect. Middle unit in every RL side consists of props, hooker and loose. Fullback goes wherever needed, half backs usually take a side so would not count according to your logic assessing his logic. Of course half backs are found quite close to the ruck often as well as having the ball the most other than the hooker so they are always going to be considered.

 

He does have a point though. fullback, halves and hooker are the guys getting the ball the most in key areas so should be in a better position to influence a game. Someone shouldnt be precluded from winning awards due to their position though.

 

Point missed, never mind.

[Dave T]

A top class winger who, say, scores 10 or 15 tries that his rival wingers are not able to is absolutely good for an individual award.

Most teams will have a hooker capable of 30 to 50 tackles a game, not many have what Solomona has shown this year. Thats not to say I think he should win it, but if you look at his 38 tries it would be interesting to see how many are tries yhat anyone could have scored.