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This kid is going to be a superstar. At the moment he is full of effort, aggression and tenacity but he is also skilful and will prove to be a great attacking threat as well.

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What a first season for him. I think we have a tendency to overhype young players but Smithies potential is incredible. 


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I’m not massively into stats but it seems he made an average gain of 4 metres per carry, the stats suggesting that Salford’s forwards made a higher average gain than the Wigan forwards. I’m a little shocked by that, I’d have said it would have been higher for Wigan. 

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4 minutes ago, Oliver Clothesoff said:

I’m not massively into stats but it seems he made an average gain of 4 metres per carry, the stats suggesting that Salford’s forwards made a higher average gain than the Wigan forwards. I’m a little shocked by that, I’d have said it would have been higher for Wigan. 

Salford's forwards were very good. Dudson was immense those last 20 minutes or so going forward, I've never seen before him play that well.

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17 minutes ago, Damien said:

Salford's forwards were very good. Dudson was immense those last 20 minutes or so going forward, I've never seen before him play that well.

What he said. Salford took the game to Wigan all night and it took excellent defence to only concede the points they did. 


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He will also benefit from a full pre season as he was with the U19s at the start of the season. He was qualified for the U19s Grand Final but was required elsewhere but Wigan still managed to win it in an excellent curtain raiser to the Salford game. 

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18 is incredibly young, especially for a forward. He should have a long and illustrious career ahead of him.

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2 hours ago, Oliver Clothesoff said:

I’m not massively into stats but it seems he made an average gain of 4 metres per carry, the stats suggesting that Salford’s forwards made a higher average gain than the Wigan forwards. I’m a little shocked by that, I’d have said it would have been higher for Wigan. 

Isn't that influenced by the game plan though. 


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1 hour ago, Griff9of13 said:

18 is incredibly young, especially for a forward. He should have a long and illustrious career ahead of him.

Or he'll be burnt out from tackling so much!

Saying that, Houghton is still going about.

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Heard about this lad a couple of years ago and he was described to me as iron hard, he's certainly looking that way.

I posted shared the link Damien posted on Facebook and asked the question, if he's doing this at 18 what's he going to be like in his mid 20's? A mate suggested concussed - lets hope not!

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Are those stats correct...really?

I think they ought to be checked...


         SL Steve Prescott Man of Steel 2016 - Danny Houghton  SL Top Gun 2016/2017 - Marc Sneyd (83%/89% goal success)

         SL Hit Man 2016/2017 - Danny Houghton (1,289/1,123 tackles)  SL Club of the Year 2016 - Hull FC

         SL Coach of the Year 2016 - Lee Radford   RL Challenge Cup Winners 2016/2017 - Hull FC

 

                                                                      All in all, not a bad couple of years, I suppose...

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When I played if I managed half that I'd be ecstatic (and needing an oxygen tent)! The times I topped 30 were considered achievements to remember.


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Does it count as a tackle if you're 3rd/4th man in?

I don't doubt that MS was involved in 72 tackles, but I would put a few quid on the fact that Steele Retchless had more involvement in stopping the opponent in his record than MS did in his.

 

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6 hours ago, Wellsy4HullFC said:

Or he'll be burnt out from tackling so much!

Saying that, Houghton is still going about.

And why Houghton is always fubar'd by season end and his attack/distribution goes to pot, starts off great but by mid season he's already jaded. It's only in the Radford years (after he sacked of heremia in '14) that he's been left completely on his jack jones with no interchange (or rarely interchanged) and this has had a detrimental effect on his quality and consistency getting worse as the season goes on.

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2 hours ago, Denton Rovers RLFC said:

And why Houghton is always fubar'd by season end and his attack/distribution goes to pot, starts off great but by mid season he's already jaded. It's only in the Radford years (after he sacked of heremia in '14) that he's been left completely on his jack jones with no interchange (or rarely interchanged) and this has had a detrimental effect on his quality and consistency getting worse as the season goes on.

As soon as I saw you'd responded to this, I instantly knew it would be a rant about Radford.

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2 hours ago, Wellsy4HullFC said:

As soon as I saw you'd responded to this, I instantly knew it would be a rant about Radford.

Wow...you must be psychic.

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         SL Steve Prescott Man of Steel 2016 - Danny Houghton  SL Top Gun 2016/2017 - Marc Sneyd (83%/89% goal success)

         SL Hit Man 2016/2017 - Danny Houghton (1,289/1,123 tackles)  SL Club of the Year 2016 - Hull FC

         SL Coach of the Year 2016 - Lee Radford   RL Challenge Cup Winners 2016/2017 - Hull FC

 

                                                                      All in all, not a bad couple of years, I suppose...

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6 hours ago, Denton Rovers RLFC said:

Does it count as a tackle if you're 3rd/4th man in?

I don't doubt that MS was involved in 72 tackles, but I would put a few quid on the fact that Steele Retchless had more involvement in stopping the opponent in his record than MS did in his.

 

Go on then, prove it.

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9 hours ago, Denton Rovers RLFC said:

Does it count as a tackle if you're 3rd/4th man in?

I don't doubt that MS was involved in 72 tackles, but I would put a few quid on the fact that Steele Retchless had more involvement in stopping the opponent in his record than MS did in his.

 

A number of those 3rd man in tackles were key in snuffing out the Salford attack as he took the standing man to ground as he was about to offload. In my book that still counts.


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