Damien 6,362 Report post Posted September 21 What an effort, 72 tackles in 62 minutes. A fine player already at only 18 years of age. 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dunbar 5,565 Report post Posted September 21 This kid is going to be a superstar. At the moment he is full of effort, aggression and tenacity but he is also skilful and will prove to be a great attacking threat as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris22 854 Report post Posted September 21 What a first season for him. I think we have a tendency to overhype young players but Smithies potential is incredible. Quote Latest Blogs: TWO part Grand Final Review "St Helens read the 'how to win a big game' manual" and "Victory proves one step beyond for Salford"- https://thetryline.blogspot.com/2019/10/grand-final-review-2-victory-proves-one.html Twitter: @TheTrylineBlog Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oliver Clothesoff 2,383 Report post Posted September 21 I’m not massively into stats but it seems he made an average gain of 4 metres per carry, the stats suggesting that Salford’s forwards made a higher average gain than the Wigan forwards. I’m a little shocked by that, I’d have said it would have been higher for Wigan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damien 6,362 Report post Posted September 21 4 minutes ago, Oliver Clothesoff said: I’m not massively into stats but it seems he made an average gain of 4 metres per carry, the stats suggesting that Salford’s forwards made a higher average gain than the Wigan forwards. I’m a little shocked by that, I’d have said it would have been higher for Wigan. Salford's forwards were very good. Dudson was immense those last 20 minutes or so going forward, I've never seen before him play that well. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Futtocks 11,315 Report post Posted September 21 17 minutes ago, Damien said: Salford's forwards were very good. Dudson was immense those last 20 minutes or so going forward, I've never seen before him play that well. What he said. Salford took the game to Wigan all night and it took excellent defence to only concede the points they did. Quote Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon. (Susan Ertz) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Superb Chops 11 Report post Posted September 21 72 Tackles! Get Smithies on the GB tour. He merits it now. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eagle Warrior 27 Report post Posted September 21 He will also benefit from a full pre season as he was with the U19s at the start of the season. He was qualified for the U19s Grand Final but was required elsewhere but Wigan still managed to win it in an excellent curtain raiser to the Salford game. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Griff9of13 5,283 Report post Posted September 21 18 is incredibly young, especially for a forward. He should have a long and illustrious career ahead of him. 1 Quote "it is a well known fact that those people who most want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Padge 5,043 Report post Posted September 21 2 hours ago, Oliver Clothesoff said: I’m not massively into stats but it seems he made an average gain of 4 metres per carry, the stats suggesting that Salford’s forwards made a higher average gain than the Wigan forwards. I’m a little shocked by that, I’d have said it would have been higher for Wigan. Isn't that influenced by the game plan though. Quote Visit my photography site www.padge.smugmug.com Radio 5 Live: Saturday 14 April 2007 Dave Whelan "In Wigan rugby will always be king" This country's wealth was created by men in overalls, it was destroyed by men in suits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Prendle 1,575 Report post Posted September 21 Just before someone else says it. I don't believe it. I demand a recount. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wellsy4HullFC 3,454 Report post Posted September 21 1 hour ago, Griff9of13 said: 18 is incredibly young, especially for a forward. He should have a long and illustrious career ahead of him. Or he'll be burnt out from tackling so much! Saying that, Houghton is still going about. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cumbrian Fanatic 943 Report post Posted September 21 Heard about this lad a couple of years ago and he was described to me as iron hard, he's certainly looking that way. I posted shared the link Damien posted on Facebook and asked the question, if he's doing this at 18 what's he going to be like in his mid 20's? A mate suggested concussed - lets hope not! 1 Quote 100% League 0% Union Just because I don't know doesn't mean I don't understand Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Frightful 5,453 Report post Posted September 21 Are those stats correct...really? I think they ought to be checked... Quote SL Steve Prescott Man of Steel 2016 - Danny Houghton SL Top Gun 2016/2017 - Marc Sneyd (83%/89% goal success) SL Hit Man 2016/2017 - Danny Houghton (1,289/1,123 tackles) SL Club of the Year 2016 - Hull FC SL Coach of the Year 2016 - Lee Radford RL Challenge Cup Winners 2016/2017 - Hull FC All in all, not a bad couple of years, I suppose... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Prendle 1,575 Report post Posted September 21 1 hour ago, Old Frightful said: Are those stats correct...really? I think they ought to be checked... I knew you wouldn't let me down. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Griff9of13 5,283 Report post Posted September 21 When I played if I managed half that I'd be ecstatic (and needing an oxygen tent)! The times I topped 30 were considered achievements to remember. Quote "it is a well known fact that those people who most want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dunbar 5,565 Report post Posted September 21 I topped 70 tackles once. It was one of my better seasons! 3 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Denton Rovers RLFC 906 Report post Posted September 21 (edited) Does it count as a tackle if you're 3rd/4th man in? I don't doubt that MS was involved in 72 tackles, but I would put a few quid on the fact that Steele Retchless had more involvement in stopping the opponent in his record than MS did in his. Edited September 21 by Denton Rovers RLFC 3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Denton Rovers RLFC 906 Report post Posted September 21 6 hours ago, Wellsy4HullFC said: Or he'll be burnt out from tackling so much! Saying that, Houghton is still going about. And why Houghton is always fubar'd by season end and his attack/distribution goes to pot, starts off great but by mid season he's already jaded. It's only in the Radford years (after he sacked of heremia in '14) that he's been left completely on his jack jones with no interchange (or rarely interchanged) and this has had a detrimental effect on his quality and consistency getting worse as the season goes on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wellsy4HullFC 3,454 Report post Posted September 22 2 hours ago, Denton Rovers RLFC said: And why Houghton is always fubar'd by season end and his attack/distribution goes to pot, starts off great but by mid season he's already jaded. It's only in the Radford years (after he sacked of heremia in '14) that he's been left completely on his jack jones with no interchange (or rarely interchanged) and this has had a detrimental effect on his quality and consistency getting worse as the season goes on. As soon as I saw you'd responded to this, I instantly knew it would be a rant about Radford. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Frightful 5,453 Report post Posted September 22 2 hours ago, Wellsy4HullFC said: As soon as I saw you'd responded to this, I instantly knew it would be a rant about Radford. Wow...you must be psychic. 1 Quote SL Steve Prescott Man of Steel 2016 - Danny Houghton SL Top Gun 2016/2017 - Marc Sneyd (83%/89% goal success) SL Hit Man 2016/2017 - Danny Houghton (1,289/1,123 tackles) SL Club of the Year 2016 - Hull FC SL Coach of the Year 2016 - Lee Radford RL Challenge Cup Winners 2016/2017 - Hull FC All in all, not a bad couple of years, I suppose... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Kevin Sinfield 905 Report post Posted September 22 15 hours ago, Damien said: What an effort, 72 tackles in 62 minutes. A fine player already at only 18 years of age. That’s an unbelievable achievement Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Prendle 1,575 Report post Posted September 22 6 hours ago, Denton Rovers RLFC said: Does it count as a tackle if you're 3rd/4th man in? I don't doubt that MS was involved in 72 tackles, but I would put a few quid on the fact that Steele Retchless had more involvement in stopping the opponent in his record than MS did in his. Go on then, prove it. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Griff9of13 5,283 Report post Posted September 22 9 hours ago, Denton Rovers RLFC said: Does it count as a tackle if you're 3rd/4th man in? I don't doubt that MS was involved in 72 tackles, but I would put a few quid on the fact that Steele Retchless had more involvement in stopping the opponent in his record than MS did in his. A number of those 3rd man in tackles were key in snuffing out the Salford attack as he took the standing man to ground as he was about to offload. In my book that still counts. Quote "it is a well known fact that those people who most want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
