The General 'Toronto Wolfpack' Discussion Thread

[Man of Kent]

15 minutes ago, Dave T said:

I think you are over-thinking this mate

I don't trust them with a loonie, sorry. Especially as this guy is already a shareholder and pal of Argyle.

[ATLANTISMAN]

Come on guys there must be some RL journalists out there that can dig it all out:)

No issues for me with TW staying in SL even owed by DA.

Guys this is all a game its a PR job.

Oldest game in the book GOOD COP BAD COP LOL:)

 

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[Whippet13]

9 hours ago, Harry Stottle said:

Like a crutch needs woodworm!

In case anyone from overseas is wondering, outside of Leigh, crutches in the UK are made of Aluminium.

Kayakman will probably be along shortly to tell us that in Toronto they are Titanium though.

[RobertAM]

1 hour ago, Man of Kent said:

I don't trust them with a loonie, sorry. Especially as this guy is already a shareholder and pal of Argyle.

I dont think they will be drinking buddies after his comments to the media but keep those conspiracy theories coming..

[Man of Kent]

24 minutes ago, RobertAM said:

I dont think they will be drinking buddies after his comments to the media but keep those conspiracy theories coming..

He could hardly say they are still great mates when there's a PR battle to be won.

Besides, aren't they on the same boards of other companies? 

[Tommygilf]

10 hours ago, Harry Stottle said:

Like a crutch needs woodworm!

What are the teeth like on the woodworms round your way H?!?!

[ATLANTISMAN]

3 minutes ago, Man of Kent said:

He could hardly say they are still great mates when there's a PR battle to be won.

Besides, aren't they on the same boards of other companies? 

Its ALL BULL my wife blames me when anything goes wrong and I take it on the chin:)

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[Tommygilf]

Toronto doing so much for the game here. Sending players on loan to Melbourne and current NRL back to back premier Sydney Roosters to warm up for the 2021 super league season

Absolutely gargantuan moves 

[TIWIT]

2 hours ago, Whippet13 said:

In case anyone from overseas is wondering, outside of Leigh, crutches in the UK are made of Aluminium.

Kayakman will probably be along shortly to tell us that in Toronto they are Titanium though.

Is it true that the wooden crutches in Leigh come with 'this end up' labels on them?

[Man of Kent]

1 hour ago, ATLANTISMAN said:

Its ALL BULL my wife blames me when anything goes wrong and I take it on the chin:)

P 

Certainly smells whiffy.

Women are biologically incapable of accepting they are, or have ever been, at fault - fact! 

[lingard]

What great entertainment watching Brian McDermott begging for his job live on TV.  Big raps to Sky for allowing this guy ftom a crappy northern town to humiliate himself in front of the RL world.   

 

[burnleywelsh]

Classy.

[Whippet13]

4 hours ago, Man of Kent said:

Women are biologically incapable of accepting they are, or have ever been, at fault - fact! 

This is the most accurate fact anyone has ever posted on this forum.

[Adelaide Tiger]

16 hours ago, Man of Kent said:

But surely that's exactly what he is saying? Toronto is a cash burning machine.

I would suggest you visit an Adelaide Woolworths and picture how 'Wolf Grooming' might fare against the competition, even if it can get on the shelf with all the other products (often made by giant companies with deep pockets).

Then we have the issue of a partnership with Super League. Is Super League expected to contribute to the marketing/manufacturing/distribution costs of something it knows nothing about? Would Super League be on the hook if it makes a loss?  What happens if LiVolsi does a runner and bills go unpaid (again)?

I can’t decide if you are a wind up merchant - and if so a very good one may I add - or someone who hates Toronto with such a pathological hatred that makes Hannibal Lector envious.

Anyway I would deduce that LiVolsi, or his associates have experience of pitching beauty products to national and global companies.  Every product in a supermarket competes against similar products and some products succeed and some don’t.

You fail to note, or blithely disregard that LiVolsi has 18 years in the beauty business so even Helen Keller can see that the products he is associated with can compete against similar products.  You speak about ‘giant companies’ but DiLivosi is a Board member of a company that is the largest in Canada and second largest in North America in its particular field.

Then your final paragraph.  If SL are approached it is up to SL if they want to associate themselves with the product and to what extent they may contribute in any way as they do with any product that sponsors SL.  I am at a loss as to why you think that SL would have to pay for the distribution costs do SL pay the distribution costs of mushy peas?  Or why you think SL will suffer financially if the product is unsuccessful.

Finally, if Wolf Grooming goes on sale at supermarkets near you will you be frequenting the beauty products aisle and taking photos on an hourly basis to let us all know how many have been sold in comparison to other brands.

P.S. please note that there are sometimes cardboard cut outs of people in supermarkets but these are for advertising purpose and not real customers.

P.P.S. If however you are right in all that you have stated then here is my apology in advance.

[GUBRATS]

Ownership group ?

Or better still secret ownership group 

Really not convinced 

[Harry Stottle]

15 hours ago, Whippet13 said:

In case anyone from overseas is wondering, outside of Leigh, crutches in the UK are made of Aluminium.

Kayakman will probably be along shortly to tell us that in Toronto they are Titanium though.

I have been around long enough when all we had was wooden crutches Whippy, and it was an old saying to describe something that was not necessary, required or needed, do you get the point I was making in response to K'man's "SL needs Toronto" we are allowed to have our own opinion aren't we?

[Davo5]

7 hours ago, SL17 said:

 

I’m all for expansion. 

[ELBOWSEYE]

7 hours ago, SL17 said:

 

Step up RImmer/Elstone to the mark. Do you have the balls to take SLY on?

From your post the dislike for Sky is obvious but as a sport I wonder were we would be if they hadn't bailed the sport out. Certainly not were we are now. They may have faults but a decent Rfl/SL board should be able to look after all aspects of tbe game, but standing still means we shrink even further. 

[Lowdesert]

15 hours ago, ATLANTISMAN said:

Its ALL BULL my wife blames me when anything goes wrong and I take it on the chin:)

P 

Mate, we are still awaiting your evidence regarding your comments on all the goings on at Catalans. Or was that BS?

 

[Man of Kent]

2 hours ago, Adelaide Tiger said:

I can’t decide if you are a wind up merchant - and if so a very good one may I add - or someone who hates Toronto with such a pathological hatred that makes Hannibal Lector envious.

Anyway I would deduce that LiVolsi, or his associates have experience of pitching beauty products to national and global companies.  Every product in a supermarket competes against similar products and some products succeed and some don’t.

You fail to note, or blithely disregard that LiVolsi has 18 years in the beauty business so even Helen Keller can see that the products he is associated with can compete against similar products.  You speak about ‘giant companies’ but DiLivosi is a Board member of a company that is the largest in Canada and second largest in North America in its particular field.

Then your final paragraph.  If SL are approached it is up to SL if they want to associate themselves with the product and to what extent they may contribute in any way as they do with any product that sponsors SL.  I am at a loss as to why you think that SL would have to pay for the distribution costs do SL pay the distribution costs of mushy peas?  Or why you think SL will suffer financially if the product is unsuccessful.

Finally, if Wolf Grooming goes on sale at supermarkets near you will you be frequenting the beauty products aisle and taking photos on an hourly basis to let us all know how many have been sold in comparison to other brands.

P.S. please note that there are sometimes cardboard cut outs of people in supermarkets but these are for advertising purpose and not real customers.

P.P.S. If however you are right in all that you have stated then here is my apology in advance.

There’s a lot of playing the man here, a sign of a weak argument.

I’m sure Super League will be asking similar questions of ‘Wolf Grooming’ (risible name, by the way) and looking at it with open eyes. 

[frank]

1 hour ago, Man of Kent said:

There’s a lot of playing the man here, a sign of a weak argument.

I’m sure Super League will be asking similar questions of ‘Wolf Grooming’ (risible name, by the way) and looking at it with open eyes. 

The state of the game suggests otherwise

[Tommygilf]

11 hours ago, Whippet13 said:

This is the most accurate fact anyone has ever posted on this forum.

It explains Gubrats so much now! It all makes sense!

[Adelaide Tiger]

2 hours ago, Man of Kent said:

There’s a lot of playing the man here, a sign of a weak argument.

I’m sure Super League will be asking similar questions of ‘Wolf Grooming’ (risible name, by the way) and looking at it with open eyes. 

No sign a weak response from me to your post.  I thought I posted a very restrained response to your post that misrepresented - on purpose IMHO - the article.

I have no argument with you if you distrust and/or dislike Toronto but to post what you did was childish.

I assume that SL undertake due diligence with every sponsor that approaches them and if Wolf Grooming is deemed not suitable then I hope SL make the correct decision.

[Robin Evans]

1 hour ago, Tommygilf said:

It explains Gubrats so much now! It all makes sense!

I've met Lynda a few times. It does indeed TG.....

Good craic those two.

 

[Whippet13]

3 hours ago, Harry Stottle said:

I have been around long enough when all we had was wooden crutches Whippy, and it was an old saying to describe something that was not necessary, required or needed, do you get the point I was making in response to K'man's "SL needs Toronto" we are allowed to have our own opinion aren't we?

Never heard of it, seems a pretty poor saying though as woodworm is destructive rather than unnecessary.

You will never catch me saying someone shouldn't have or express their own opinion Harry.