Super League Promotion (Merged Threads)

[GUBRATS]

8 hours ago, Harry Stottle said:

Have I got this right, that your interest in getting along to support 'your team' has wained, your experiences of 25/30 years have taken a back seat because Toronto are no more and Leigh have been chosen to make up the numbers and be the fall guy in the spot that Toronto held, I would have thought you would derive much more pleasure watching/observing Leigh continually losing as you have expressed they will other than Toronto continually losing over the course of the season.

Harry , now he knows how I felt after 3 years of licencing 

[Scotchy1]

12 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

Have a look at the last sentance I wrote.

Doesnt answer the question does it. 

You want a salary cap, now you want young players to be forced to sign with Leigh instead of better run clubs. At what point do you stand on your own two feet?

[glemiln]

9 hours ago, DOGFATHER said:

However, given their history of financial instability and lack of ground, Bradford should have been taken out of the equation at the same time as Rochdale.

Please elaborate the relation between the two clubs and the action inferred - thanks in anticipation.

[lucky 7]

5 minutes ago, Scotchy1 said:

Doesnt answer the question does it. 

You want a salary cap, now you want young players to be forced to sign with Leigh instead of better run clubs. At what point do you stand on your own two feet?

As we know Leigh have had opportunities to set up a Category 1 academy, but chose not too until it was too late. You reap what you sow.

[Harry Stottle]

15 minutes ago, lucky 7 said:

You reap what you sow.

I wished we had and wasn't considered for SL, but it didn't work and Leigh were still wanted by a unanimous vote by all selection panel members to play in SL, I think it was stated that they were the most suitable of all the applicants.

[Oxford]

2 hours ago, Johnoco said:

Unfortunately Oxers old boy, there's no cutting off nose to spite face here. The way I wanted RL to go, isn't happening, that's unfortunate but nothing I can do about it. Life is precious and time way too valuable to waste it chasing lost causes.

Let the keep it local brigade have their game, and see where it ends up. I certainly don't wish RL any ill will or anything but I just can't get on board anymore. 

I'm sorry you've come to the end but coming to watch Salford would help especially so next season, and it's always more fun.

[JohnM]

1 hour ago, lucky 7 said:

So you don't think Elstone blew in any of their ears>

Maybe not everyone aspires to your way of doing things. 

[Hull Kingston Bronco]

Leigh. Leigh. They did an in-depth analysis of value-added to the competition, and then chose Leigh?

 

Look, I’m up for promotion and relegation, and if Leigh or anyone earns promotion then cool. But don’t tell me that if instead you appoint a club on a wider range of measures, what Super League is crying out for is a small town on the edge of Wigan. Really? It makes no sense from a brand & market positioning perspective, commercial value-added, reaching new customers, net audience growth for our broadcast partner, or even on a basic “local attendances” metric if history is anything to go by... 

 

Honestly, it’s just embarrassing. We will be semi-pro within 3 years with this level of strategic thinking

 

 

 

 

[GUBRATS]

7 hours ago, Tommygilf said:

Quite, but even then it still makes sense to look beyond yours (and therefore their) doorstep. Cumbria, Wales, the North East etc. It needs a bit of lateral thinking otherwise the academy will just be worse by definition 

So you want us to spend much more than the other local academies by asking players to relocate ?

[Tommygilf]

4 minutes ago, GUBRATS said:

So you want us to spend much more than the other local academies by asking players to relocate ?

Unless you want to run a rubbish academy what alternative do you have?

[DOGFATHER]

1 hour ago, glemiln said:

Please elaborate the relation between the two clubs and the action inferred - thanks in anticipation.

Nothing sinister intended. Rochdale's application was knocked out of contention very early in the process, was it not?

I was inferring Bradford's application should have been dismissed at the same time.

[Les Tonks Sidestep]

1 hour ago, lucky 7 said:

As we know Leigh have had opportunities to set up a Category 1 academy, but chose not too until it was too late. You reap what you sow.

How many times does it need saying, a club cannot just set up a Cat 1 academy!. 

[GUBRATS]

5 hours ago, The Future is League said:

Agree, but in the meantime no Category 1 academy = no Super League place for me

Forcing clubs to do something about it to meet the criteria what ever that is.

You really are clueless 

[GUBRATS]

5 hours ago, The Future is League said:

I stick by what i say. No category 1 academy = no Super League place. Forcing clubs who have Super League ambitions to run academies.

Are you applying the same to stadiums ?

[GeordieSaint]

1 hour ago, Harry Stottle said:

OK fine no problem, all I said was it was twixt between Wigan and St Helens, just that I was aware of a few lads who from Ashton who played for Blackbrook.

Went to school in Ashton (with John Duffy and Karl Fitzpatrick); it’s classed as Wigan to everyone who lives there. 

[GUBRATS]

1 hour ago, Hull Kingston Bronco said:

Leigh. Leigh. They did an in-depth analysis of value-added to the competition, and then chose Leigh?

 

Look, I’m up for promotion and relegation, and if Leigh or anyone earns promotion then cool. But don’t tell me that if instead you appoint a club on a wider range of measures, what Super League is crying out for is a small town on the edge of Wigan. Really? It makes no sense from a brand & market positioning perspective, commercial value-added, reaching new customers, net audience growth for our broadcast partner, or even on a basic “local attendances” metric if history is anything to go by... 

 

Honestly, it’s just embarrassing. We will be semi-pro within 3 years with this level of strategic thinking

 

 

 

 

But it makes sense in having as competitive a team as possible , to make sure the other clubs have to work hard to retain their SL status , don't you agree ?

[GUBRATS]

32 minutes ago, GeordieSaint said:

Went to school in Ashton (with John Duffy and Karl Fitzpatrick); it’s classed as Wigan to everyone who lives there. 

And yet you're a Saints fan ?

[GUBRATS]

4 hours ago, Spidey said:

The ones in it do

No thanks , don't want to be in or out of one 

[GeordieSaint]

9 minutes ago, GUBRATS said:

And yet you're a Saints fan ?

Yep - I grew up in St Helens but went to school across the border in Wigan. One of the very few Saints fans who went to the school.

[sweaty craiq]

2 hours ago, lucky 7 said:

As we know Leigh have had opportunities to set up a Category 1 academy, but chose not too until it was too late. You reap what you sow.

I didn't know that, when did it happen as I thought you were awarded a Cat 1 and got funded for it

[PEANUT HEAD]

13 hours ago, Damien said:

Pathetic Dave. You are a much better poster than this nonsense. 

Your pathetic cause your right.

[PEANUT HEAD]

12 hours ago, The Future is League said:

I'm just saying what Elstone said.

Leigh are the 12th club. Elstone has said that the 12th club must bring some commercial value to Super League. Can YOU see any commercial value of having Leigh in Super League

Same can be said for cas wakey  salford huddersfield  do I need to go on.

[sweaty craiq]

1 hour ago, Hull Kingston Bronco said:

Leigh. Leigh. They did an in-depth analysis of value-added to the competition, and then chose Leigh?

Look, I’m up for promotion and relegation, and if Leigh or anyone earns promotion then cool. But don’t tell me that if instead you appoint a club on a wider range of measures, what Super League is crying out for is a small town on the edge of Wigan. Really? It makes no sense from a brand & market positioning perspective, commercial value-added, reaching new customers, net audience growth for our broadcast partner, or even on a basic “local attendances” metric if history is anything to go by... 

Honestly, it’s just embarrassing. We will be semi-pro within 3 years with this level of strategic thinking

Please help me out here - SL has been going 25 years 23 of which without Leigh, which great brands paying huge sums have we attracted? (I will ignore the GCSE Marketing blurb though) Indeed the mighty HKR can't even attract someone to let Hudgell walk so he can have a decent holiday with what cash he has left.

If school doesn't get closed again you will learn about accounts, if you are making money and dramatically increasing cash in the bank it tends to be a good sign of a successful business - that was one huge tick in the process, the COVID risk went against TO (my pick btw) and Bradford are really a Newco that needs to prove they can survive (but should be a shoe in when they do so)

A big tip I always gave my sales force ''Don't be embarrassed  of picking low hanging fruit'', a tap in from 2 yards means just as much as 30 yard curler.

[Damien]

1 hour ago, GeordieSaint said:

Went to school in Ashton (with John Duffy and Karl Fitzpatrick); it’s classed as Wigan to everyone who lives there. 

Edmund Arrowsmith?

[PEANUT HEAD]

12 hours ago, Johnoco said:

As I have said, I don’t have anything against Leigh and know fine well that the decision can be justified using whatever criteria they choose. 
 

My personal view is that I have no interest in following a game with such a small minded mentality. 

I agree bring back franchising get get rid of the deadwood cas wakey salford hkr get some teams in with a bit of ambition like fev Toulouse york.