Total Rugby League 563 Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 Exclusive: A Canadian company owed more than £170,000 by Toronto Wolfpack has taken aim at the defunct club and the leadership of the RFL and...View the full article TotalRL.com - Total Rugby League www.totalrl.com Link to post Share on other sites
Man of Kent 8,024 Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 Run With The Pack’s Bills Unpaid! 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Hela Wigmen 2,972 Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 Ouch. Link to post Share on other sites
Big Picture 1,891 Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 1 hour ago, Hela Wigmen said: Ouch. Ouch indeed! It goes to show how unsustainable Eric Pérez's idea of teams in North America playing in the British RL structure is. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Gooleboy 1,594 Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 Surely nobody is surprised at this. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
silverback 1,244 Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 Did we learn anything,? Link to post Share on other sites
frank 528 Posted March 1 Report Share Posted March 1 6 hours ago, silverback said: Did we learn anything,? Yes! We learned that the majority of SL clubs are only interested in themselves. This situation may never have developed if the WP had not been deprived of their share of TV money. That being the case SL is mainly responsible for that fiasco. 4 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites
gingerjon 16,864 Posted March 1 Report Share Posted March 1 10 hours ago, Total Rugby League said: Exclusive: A Canadian company owed more than £170,000 by Toronto Wolfpack has taken aim at the defunct club and the leadership of the RFL and... View the full article "... Even though the business of the Wolfpack continues to be active ..." Curiouser and curiouser ... 1 Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to post Share on other sites
Man of Kent 8,024 Posted March 1 Report Share Posted March 1 1 hour ago, frank said: Yes! We learned that the majority of SL clubs are only interested in themselves. This situation may never have developed if the WP had not been deprived of their share of TV money. That being the case SL is mainly responsible for that fiasco. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites
silverback 1,244 Posted March 1 Report Share Posted March 1 2 hours ago, frank said: Yes! We learned that the majority of SL clubs are only interested in themselves. This situation may never have developed if the WP had not been deprived of their share of TV money. That being the case SL is mainly responsible for that fiasco. i thought they asked to not have any $$$£$ help to get in the door so hardly deprived,because of the sponser/owner/backer with lots of dosh,and as probably done damage to other clubs needing backing/sponsership if they then get stiffed for bundles of £$ with unpaid wages and bills. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Davo5 5,288 Posted March 1 Report Share Posted March 1 8 hours ago, Gooleboy said: Surely nobody is surprised at this. What, a professional rugby league club owing money,surely this is a first 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Lowdesert 3,300 Posted March 1 Report Share Posted March 1 8 hours ago, silverback said: Did we learn anything,? I would ask the question of governing body financial audits on TWP. Seems so obvious that a ‘central office’ does scheduled audits to check whether that business is continually operationally viable by identify these outstanding unpaid bills or any owed monies. This might have happened, I don’t know, but I seriously doubt it. Notwithstanding the Argyle failings the RFL ‘soft touch’ approach is a cop out imo. All these businesses (clubs) impact on each other at some time or other. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Gooleboy 1,594 Posted March 1 Report Share Posted March 1 57 minutes ago, Davo5 said: What, a professional rugby league club owing money,surely this is a first Of course it's not a first and won't be the last, but I am glad it isn't me who is owed the money by them. Link to post Share on other sites
jroyales 412 Posted March 1 Report Share Posted March 1 It's interesting to note all the hoops that Leigh had to jump through before being allowed into sooperdooperleeg whilst the crazy idea of Canadian teams, and possibly American teams can get in via the back door. 3 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Rupert Prince 1,729 Posted March 1 Report Share Posted March 1 9 hours ago, silverback said: Did we learn anything,? Yes. The Wolfpack/Argyle "lied" to the RFL/ SL. It's clear that they were avoiding paying suppliers as far back as 2018. We learn that Argyle is clearly nowhere near being a "billionaire" ... that is just smoke and mirrors. We learn the no proper due process was carried out to allow the Wolfpack into the RLF system. We learn that even if Argyle's heart was (maybe) in the right place, his money wasn't. As ever, and time and again commentators will not listen, what the RL need is investment. Real money. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Rupert Prince 1,729 Posted March 1 Report Share Posted March 1 2 minutes ago, jroyales said: It's interesting to note all the hoops that Leigh had to jump through before being allowed into sooperdooperleeg whilst the crazy idea of Canadian teams, and possibly American teams can get in via the back door. Where are teams being let in by the SL "back door"? Where are they? In fact the SL showed TWP the door and slam it shut on the way out. Leigh where let in by the Butler by the front door. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
ATLANTISMAN 1,188 Posted March 1 Report Share Posted March 1 Its not good though to wash your laundry in public, its very unprofessional no-one wants to see companies losing money and not being paid however going public on this is not the way to do it. I know of one organisation that lost around 250K in investment due to the TR and they havant said a word just carried on. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Damien 13,230 Posted March 1 Report Share Posted March 1 36 minutes ago, jroyales said: It's interesting to note all the hoops that Leigh had to jump through before being allowed into sooperdooperleeg whilst the crazy idea of Canadian teams, and possibly American teams can get in via the back door. That's not what happened though is it? 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Hela Wigmen 2,972 Posted March 1 Report Share Posted March 1 2 minutes ago, Damien said: That's not what happened though is it? Don’t forget about all the money The RFL spent on Toronto too, Damien. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Dave T 18,667 Posted March 1 Report Share Posted March 1 12 minutes ago, ATLANTISMAN said: Its not good though to wash your laundry in public, its very unprofessional no-one wants to see companies losing money and not being paid however going public on this is not the way to do it. I know of one organisation that lost around 250K in investment due to the TR and they havant said a word just carried on. I don't think that is where criticism should be aimed mate. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Dave T 18,667 Posted March 1 Report Share Posted March 1 1 hour ago, Lowdesert said: I would ask the question of governing body financial audits on TWP. Seems so obvious that a ‘central office’ does scheduled audits to check whether that business is continually operationally viable by identify these outstanding unpaid bills or any owed monies. This might have happened, I don’t know, but I seriously doubt it. Notwithstanding the Argyle failings the RFL ‘soft touch’ approach is a cop out imo. All these businesses (clubs) impact on each other at some time or other. That does sound like a full time role though - pretty much managing limited companies budgets. I'm not sure that should be the case tbh, I think very harsh punishments for poor financial management is probably the best route. Link to post Share on other sites
Kayakman 5,598 Posted March 1 Report Share Posted March 1 (edited) Once this is all settled (post Covid) Toronto will be back in; I'm sure of it! (+well sort of sure) Edited March 1 by Kayakman 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Hela Wigmen 2,972 Posted March 1 Report Share Posted March 1 Just now, Kayakman said: Once this is all settled (post Covid) Toronto will be back jn; I'm sure of it! (+well sort of sure) What makes you think that, out of interest? Is their rumblings of a revival or is it blind faith? Link to post Share on other sites
Eddie 4,374 Posted March 1 Report Share Posted March 1 1 hour ago, jroyales said: It's interesting to note all the hoops that Leigh had to jump through before being allowed into sooperdooperleeg whilst the crazy idea of Canadian teams, and possibly American teams can get in via the back door. Do you mean TWP getting in via the back door of winning promotion on the pitch, while Leigh had to go through the hoops of submitting an application form? 4 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Omott91 863 Posted March 1 Report Share Posted March 1 1 hour ago, jroyales said: It's interesting to note all the hoops that Leigh had to jump through before being allowed into sooperdooperleeg whilst the crazy idea of Canadian teams, and possibly American teams can get in via the back door. By earning promotion on the field? I must have missed the part when Leigh did that. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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