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10 hours ago, The Frying Scotsman said:

Looks interesting. 

Unfortunately it is geoblocked again, so you can probably watch it in England, but nowhere else. 

Sometimes it feels like the powers that be don't really want this sport to thrive or expand!

I can confirm it is accessible from Wales too!

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6 minutes ago, Barley Mow said:

I can confirm it is accessible from Wales too!

And I would guess in Scotland. Maybe restricted to the places that Sky broadcast to?
 

Alternatively the original poster may just be either stirring or making stuff up

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On 05/07/2021 at 17:28, Hela Wigmen said:

What is London Broncos actually worth? Now, I don’t mean, what would Hughes like to recoup but actually what are they worth?

They aren't worth anything at all are they surely ? 

Can't remortgage or sell their ground, don't own one. 

Can't sell all the players because Clubs will just wait for their contracts to expire, which would be quick, no doubt. 

RFL Membership / Licence? Not worth much at all as a serious backer well known to the organisation would probably get awarded a membership without the need to buy someone else's. 

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3 minutes ago, Smudger06 said:

They aren't worth anything at all are they surely ? 

Can't remortgage or sell their ground, don't own one. 

Can't sell all the players because Clubs will just wait for their contracts to expire, which would be quick, no doubt. 

RFL Membership / Licence? Not worth much at all as a serious backer well known to the organisation would probably get awarded a membership without the need to buy someone else's. 

The brand itself including present and historic (If still trademarked) logos and any associated social media accounts that have been verified (Blue ticked) could be worth something to be fair to them. 

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2 minutes ago, Smudger06 said:

The brand itself including present and historic (If still trademarked) logos and any associated social media accounts that have been verified (Blue ticked) could be worth something to be fair to them. 

A toxic brand isn't worth diddly squat though. London Broncos have obviously alienated a lot of people and made plenty of mistakes, I'm not sure what the value is there.

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4 hours ago, RP London said:

Its an idea absolutely.. it would also be an idea to move to a park pitch near Brentford as that was a place they had some good gates.. so then those park pitch crowds will automatically go up. 

IMHO the biggest problem with London, as it has been for a long time, is that they do not engage with the fanbase or potential fan base.. even when i was in London they didnt do this properly and didnt engage properly with the amateur clubs. IF they really want to solve some of the problems they actually have to find out what the problem is. Falling crowds is not the problem it is the symptom.. what is the underlying issue? Maybe it is the ground but maybe it is also the area and where it is (does Wimbledon fix this? i would say probably not), maybe it is KO times, maybe its something to do with the club itself, maybe its the fact no one knows when you are playing etc etc etc.. They have to find the problem and fix it otherwise we will be going round and round and round and round like this ad infinitum, or at least until David Hughes cant be bothered anymore and just gives up... and a new owner with money is only going to be able to do something about it if they then look at the issue, if they do not then we are back in the loop again.

I think I am right on saying the big drop in attendances took place at the Stoop and then  Barnet. Until they indicated that we would move attendances were going up at Trailfinders?

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4 hours ago, LeeF said:

And I would guess in Scotland. Maybe restricted to the places that Sky broadcast to?
 

Alternatively the original poster may just be either stirring or making stuff up

I'm not making anything up. Your allegation is idiotic and completely unfounded.

I live in the EU, and cannot watch it. It is geoblocked. 

 

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6 hours ago, RP London said:

Its an idea absolutely.. it would also be an idea to move to a park pitch near Brentford as that was a place they had some good gates.. so then those park pitch crowds will automatically go up. 

IMHO the biggest problem with London, as it has been for a long time, is that they do not engage with the fanbase or potential fan base.. even when i was in London they didnt do this properly and didnt engage properly with the amateur clubs. IF they really want to solve some of the problems they actually have to find out what the problem is. Falling crowds is not the problem it is the symptom.. what is the underlying issue? Maybe it is the ground but maybe it is also the area and where it is (does Wimbledon fix this? i would say probably not), maybe it is KO times, maybe its something to do with the club itself, maybe its the fact no one knows when you are playing etc etc etc.. They have to find the problem and fix it otherwise we will be going round and round and round and round like this ad infinitum, or at least until David Hughes cant be bothered anymore and just gives up... and a new owner with money is only going to be able to do something about it if they then look at the issue, if they do not then we are back in the loop again.

I realise this, RP. Fan engagement is poor.

This is where I see a role for fans. This is what AFC Wimbledon does https://www.afcwimbledon.co.uk/news/2021/june/help-make-a-difference-for-the-homecoming-season/

I recently put the LBSA directly in contact with the key contact on the Dons Trust board to discuss such matters and last time I heard they were going to meet up. Hopefully something comes of it as it’s in both clubs’ interests for the groundshare to succeed.

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18 hours ago, The Frying Scotsman said:

Looks interesting. 

Unfortunately it is geoblocked again, so you can probably watch it in England, but nowhere else. 

Sometimes it feels like the powers that be don't really want this sport to thrive or expand!

Surely it's SKY who have blocked it? Same as you have to be 'inventive' if you want to watch their programmes outside of UK?

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This is the part of the interview that sums up London Broncos current precarious state (edit - especially with the exit of Romain Navarrete to Toulouse)...

Brian Carney: Did you ever come across in all your time, and it's 14 years as a player and a coach, but particularly your time as a coach or a senior player, come across or be told about a strategic plan for London?

Danny Ward: No.

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4 hours ago, The Frying Scotsman said:

I'm not making anything up. Your allegation is idiotic and completely unfounded.

I live in the EU, and cannot watch it. It is geoblocked. 

 

So restricted to the places Sky broadcasts as I posted if you had bothered to actually read 

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1 hour ago, BJW said:

Surely it's SKY who have blocked it? Same as you have to be 'inventive' if you want to watch their programmes outside of UK?

Don’t stop him from running his usual negative conspiracies by blinding him with logic

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19 hours ago, Damien said:

A toxic brand isn't worth diddly squat though. London Broncos have obviously alienated a lot of people and made plenty of mistakes, I'm not sure what the value is there.

That doesn’t make them a toxic brand. We have a great history really in all the ( very difficult) circumstances.

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15 hours ago, londonbronco said:

This is the part of the interview that sums up London Broncos current precarious state (edit - especially with the exit of Romain Navarrete to Toulouse)...

Brian Carney: Did you ever come across in all your time, and it's 14 years as a player and a coach, but particularly your time as a coach or a senior player, come across or be told about a strategic plan for London?

Danny Ward: No.

It's not just 14 years, it is 41 or 126 years depending how you want to count. The butchers, bakers and candlestick makers have never deemed London important enough for a strategic plan. Much better to spend your time on internecine warfare in a vacuum 

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18 hours ago, Man of Kent said:

I realise this, RP. Fan engagement is poor.

This is where I see a role for fans. This is what AFC Wimbledon does https://www.afcwimbledon.co.uk/news/2021/june/help-make-a-difference-for-the-homecoming-season/

I recently put the LBSA directly in contact with the key contact on the Dons Trust board to discuss such matters and last time I heard they were going to meet up. Hopefully something comes of it as it’s in both clubs’ interests for the groundshare to succeed.

Sorry, the point i was making was more about whether yet another move to another area is really the answer to anything. Is the ground/location hindering or helping or actually making any difference whatsoever and the problem is deeper (which is my opinion) and no matter where the club is its not going to attract people.

What is actually stopping people from turning up to matches?

Supporters clubs are great and they need to get that side sorted out, absolutely. The key though is they need to find out why some have stopped going with the move to Ealing (may have nowt to do with the ground). More than anything though its about why are other people NOT going, not why do people already go. They need to keep people there but thats not enough as to be a sustainable club they need to get more and more people and a move to Wimbledon is potentially not even part of the solution, and if it is its only a small part, to get people to see how "great" the new home is they have to go there first. If you cant fix that problem then they are screwed. 

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55 minutes ago, RP London said:

Sorry, the point i was making was more about whether yet another move to another area is really the answer to anything. Is the ground/location hindering or helping or actually making any difference whatsoever and the problem is deeper (which is my opinion) and no matter where the club is its not going to attract people.

What is actually stopping people from turning up to matches?

Supporters clubs are great and they need to get that side sorted out, absolutely. The key though is they need to find out why some have stopped going with the move to Ealing (may have nowt to do with the ground). More than anything though its about why are other people NOT going, not why do people already go. They need to keep people there but thats not enough as to be a sustainable club they need to get more and more people and a move to Wimbledon is potentially not even part of the solution, and if it is its only a small part, to get people to see how "great" the new home is they have to go there first. If you cant fix that problem then they are screwed. 

99.99% of Londoners don't know the club exists, or if they do don't know where they play. Of the people who do know, most of them have had enough and walked away.

"Just as we had been Cathars, we were treizistes, men apart."

Jean Roque, Calendrier-revue du Racing-Club Albigeois, 1958-1959

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4 hours ago, nadera78 said:

99.99% of Londoners don't know the club exists, or if they do don't know where they play. Of the people who do know, most of them have had enough and walked away.

yes.. that is definitely part of it without a doubt, but then once you get them to know, what is stopping them then... and so on.. 

 

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1 minute ago, RP London said:

what is stopping them then

Here's the website: https://londonbroncosrl.com/

How many clicks, and easy is it, to find the date and buy a ticket for the next home match?

Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett)

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3 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

Here's the website: https://londonbroncosrl.com/

How many clicks, and easy is it, to find the date and buy a ticket for the next home match?

1 click to find the fixtures. 

2 to get to the ticket company.. then a search and there are the tickets.. 

not too difficult to be honest.. 

its almost the same paths to get to the same places on the eagles site, I'm not sure that would put me off buying a ticket

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Just now, RP London said:

1 click to find the fixtures. 

2 to get to the ticket company.. then a search and there are the tickets.. 

not too difficult to be honest.. 

its almost the same paths to get to the same places on the eagles site, I'm not sure that would put me off buying a ticket

Now, I reckon you'd lose a lot of people at 2 there. If they're just casually interested.

It's certainly my experience that any time people leave the site you lose people and any time you have to additionally search you lose people. The Broncos need fans. It's not good enough to be 'alright' on the selling tickets part.

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