Fri 19 Aug: SL: St Helens v Hull Kingston Rovers KO 20:00

[John Drake]

Discuss St Helens v Hull Kingston Rovers here.

[Cw25]

St Helens 36-16 Hull KR

[yipyee]

From current availability and form, 

Saints 86-0 Hull KR

[Chronicler of Chiswick]

Saints by 40.

[DavidM]

Sents by 36

[Saint Toppy]

Saints get Welsby back for this game but Mata'utia now out for 2-3 weeks so looks like Davies back to Centre and Welsby in at 6 with the rest of the team unchanged from last week.

[Hull Kingston Bronco]

The target score is "less than Hull FC's capitulation"... although without enough players to form a proper side it could be a slight challenge!

[Father Ted]

Saints by 40

[Josef K]

Saints will walk this and will probably declare. But i do feel sorry for HKR and their fans, this is a club who have been blighted with so many injuries.
This is one of those loopy fixtures, 9,900 turned up for the first game (although there did look more on than was announced). If i didn’t have a season ticket i don’t think i would’ve bothered going. 

[Davo5]

An injury ravaged KR will get battered.

[DimmestStar]

Rovers will give yet another player a debut this time 17 year old Connor Barley who is the nephew of Paul Cooke.

With two thirds of the Rovers salary cap unavailable you'd imagine it is a case of damage limitation but I'm sure that the Robins will fight hard and give a good account.

[Human Punk]

Have to feel sorry for Rovers, they were looking good for the win last week until SKD went off (what a tremendous asset he's been to the game in general). Can't see anything other than a comfortable 20-point victory for Saints.

[Ant]

Hull KR might be better served forfeiting this game 

[Oxford]

Yeah and sadly Saints by the proverbial country mile.

[S.T.I.D.]

Saints still nowhere near full strength, missing Grace, Percival, Dodd, Sironen, Matautia and Knowles could be a clunky first half for them and to score most of the points in the second half after a spirited display by Rovers.

[Chris22]

Looking at Hull KR's squad, this could be quite a rough night for them. 

Having so many 17 and 18 year old going up against a squad of men isn't good for player welfare either.

[Old Frightful]

On 17/08/2022 at 17:53, Hull Kingston Bronco said:

The target score is "less than Hull FC's capitulation"... although without enough players to form a proper side it could be a slight challenge!

Says quite a lot really if that's what your target is.

On 18/08/2022 at 13:38, Josef K said:

But i do feel sorry for HKR and their fans, this is a club who have been blighted with so many injuries.

 

On 18/08/2022 at 13:42, Davo5 said:

An injury ravaged KR will get battered.

 

On 18/08/2022 at 14:11, DimmestStar said:

Rovers will give yet another player a debut this time 17 year old Connor Barley who is the nephew of Paul Cooke.

With two thirds of the Rovers salary cap unavailable you'd imagine it is a case of damage limitation but I'm sure that the Robins will fight hard and give a good account.

 

On 18/08/2022 at 15:30, Human Punk said:

Have to feel sorry for Rovers

 

17 hours ago, Ant said:

Hull KR might be better served forfeiting this game 

 

2 hours ago, Chris22 said:

Looking at Hull KR's squad, this could be quite a rough night for them. 

Having so many 17 and 18 year old going up against a squad of men isn't good for player welfare either.

Are Hull KR the only SL side with injuries?

[Chris22]

28 minutes ago, Old Frightful said:

Are Hull KR the only SL side with injuries?

To this extent, I believe so!

[Ant]

38 minutes ago, Old Frightful said:

 

Are Hull KR the only SL side with injuries?

The way RL reporting goes, you'd think so. 

[Hull Kingston Bronco]

52 minutes ago, Old Frightful said:

Are Hull KR the only SL side with injuries?

Obviously not, many teams are struggling. But Rovers are demonstrably worse off than most if not all - we'll have two 17 year olds on the pitch, one of whom is making their debut.

It is what it is, and I ask for no special treatment, but it's pretty reasonable to point it out on a thread like this. 

[DimmestStar]

There will be 6 Rovers players who will only be able to play with pain killing injections and then there's the teenagers who are being thrown in quicker than they really ought to be.

Recently at Wigan teenage debutant Charlie Cavanaugh lasted 10 minutes before his season was over with a dislocated kneecap. I hope the kids at least get through unscathed this time and everyone else too for that matter.

You wonder if the jabbed up players don't come to regret playing when they otherwise couldn't but otherwise Rovers would have had to forfeit this game.

 

[DimmestStar]

FT 38-12. Obviously result never in doubt but proud of this makeshift Rovers team.

At 20-0 half time you wondered if the floodgates would really open but Rovers went toe to toe second half with 3 tries each including a debut score for Connor Barley. Just a pity that Coote was unable to land a single goalkick.

[Hull Kingston Bronco]

5 hours ago, Old Frightful said:

Says quite a lot really if that's what your target is.

Mission accomplished

Reckon that’s the difference between a team with some collective will trying to make progress, and a collection of random players who already think they’re there. 

[Old Frightful]

1 minute ago, Hull Kingston Bronco said:

Mission accomplished

Reckon that’s the difference between a team with some collective will trying to make progress, and a collection of random players who already think they’re there. 

No, the difference is Hull KR fans comparing scores between the two Hull teams to give their team the edge in local rivalry  and Hull FC fans just wanting their team to win.

[Hull Kingston Bronco]

2 minutes ago, Old Frightful said:

No, the difference is Hull KR fans comparing scores between the two Hull teams to give their team the edge in local rivalry  and Hull FC fans just wanting their team to win.

If you think that Hull FC fans think like that, after 140 years of rivalry, I’ve got a bridge to sell you  

Nowt wrong with a bit of friendly light-hearted benchmarking. Trust me if you’d had to put up with what we did from you lot in the ‘dark ages’ pre-2006 you’d be enjoying life as much as we do, relatively speaking.