Rob Elstone honoured, Kevin Sinfield not (Merged Threads)

[Jughead]

No, really. You’re living in a dystopian Britain where Rebrand Rob has been honoured for his services to sport yet Kevin Sinfield, a man who won it all in his chosen career path, and has gone on to complete some absolutely unthinkable challenges to raise awareness and money for charity has received nothing. 

Make it make sense.

 

[Ragingbull]

Yep thats right. Mr Elstone recieves the MBE in the new years honours list. 

His outstanding contribution to SL sealed the deal im sure.

[doc]

He's got an OBE.

[RigbyLuger]

Did you fill in the forms to nominate Sinfield?

[JohnM]

It's the same every Honours list: these things don't happen by accident. There is a well documented process. I admit its bizarre that Grayson Perry gets a knighthood. Kind of devalues that process in my view.  

https://www.gov.uk/honours

[IM2]

bizarre you look at the list and see who gets it for what its hard to defend his omission. he should get it for RL contribution alone never mind the MND charity work which is extraordinary. RL always seems to get treated as 4th class for this stuff.

https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/news/leeds-news/fury-kevin-sinfield-snubbed-knighthood-25868154 

 

[Jughead]

15 minutes ago, doc said:

He's got an OBE.

And since then raised a simply mind blowing sum of money whilst completing a challenge that doesn’t even sound humanly possible but hey, you be pleased with an OBE, Kev. 

[doc]

Of course there will be other honours list this coming year. We can only hope Kevin will be on one.

[DI Keith Fowler]

It's such a weird thing that I can be annoyed about the whole concept but also annoyed that someone like Sinfield isn't getting it.

[Kayakman]

1 hour ago, Ragingbull said:

Yep thats right. Mr Elstone recieves the MBE in the new years honours list. 

His outstanding contribution to SL sealed the deal im sure.

Is this some type of sick joke?

[Zilla Budgie]

 

'Services to sport' ? In which role did he justify this award ? He was paid very well by Castleford, Everton FC & Super League. I guess it must be for the Papa John's sponsorship deal, where Super League received no funds, but the players received free pizzas after each game. Well done Robert you must be so proud.

[fighting irish]

10 minutes ago, Zilla Budgie said:

 

'Services to sport' ? In which role did he justify this award ? He was paid very well by Castleford, Everton FC & Super League. I guess it must be for the Papa John's sponsorship deal, where Super League received no funds, but the players received free pizzas after each game. Well done Robert you must be so proud.

Well WTF did he get it for then.

This is more than comical, it's downright insulting.

Kayakman's incredulity will surely be the ubiquitous response to this award.

Is there any publicly available information about the case made for this monumental farce? 

[Damien]

I personally think its worse the England wheelchair team hasn't been recognised as this has been the trend for national teams from other sports that have won World Cups and even players winning the European Championships, as we have just seen with the Lionesses. 

Edited December 31, 2022 by Damien

[Fevrover]

6 hours ago, Jughead said:

And since then raised a simply mind blowing sum of money whilst completing a challenge that doesn’t even sound humanly possible but hey, you be pleased with an OBE, Kev. 

I think because he's already received an OBE he won't get another award so soon,but hopefully he will get a Knighthood eventually, he's certainly earned it.

[Dunbar]

2 hours ago, Damien said:

I personally think its worse the England wheelchair team hasn't been recognised as this has been the trend for national teams from other sports that have won World Cups and even players winning the European Championships, as we have just seen with the Lionesses. 

I agree that these players should be honoured.  I just hope it is a process thing with the tournament quite late in the year.

For example, the wheelchair 'rugby' team who won Gold at the Tokyo 2020 Paralympic Games received their honours in the New Year List in 2022.

[gingerjon]

2 hours ago, Damien said:

I personally think its worse the England wheelchair team hasn't been recognised

It really is.

[Gomersall]

I thought Kev would be nailed on for an honour once he joined the dark side. I could imagine seeing the headline extolling the England rugby union defence coach’s attributes.

[Gomersall]

3 hours ago, Damien said:

I personally think its worse the England wheelchair team hasn't been recognised as this has been the trend for national teams from other sports that have won World Cups and even players winning the European Championships, as we have just seen with the Lionesses. 

Strangely only four of the England women’s football team received an honour! 

[gingerjon]

Just now, Gomersall said:

Strangely only four of the England women’s football team received an honour! 

Push back, it seems, from things like the entire England cricket team getting an honour for winning a single series.

[GeordieSaint]

3 hours ago, Damien said:

I personally think its worse the England wheelchair team hasn't been recognised as this has been the trend for national teams from other sports that have won World Cups and even players winning the European Championships, as we have just seen with the Lionesses. 

These awards are too soon sadly. There’s a lengthy lead time for the nomination and approval process. The team should be looking at recognition in the King’s Birthday List awards as long as someone nominates them of course.

[Gomersall]

6 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

Push back, it seems, from things like the entire England cricket team getting an honour for winning a single series.

The official line is to stop players who may have only spent five minutes on the pitch the whole tournament being honoured. I still don’t believe only four players won the tournament by themselves though.

[JohnM]

1 hour ago, Dunbar said:

I agree that these players should be honoured.  I just hope it is a process thing with the tournament quite late in the year.

For example, the wheelchair 'rugby' team who won Gold at the Tokyo 2020 Paralympic Games received their honours in the New Year List in 2022.

That's a very good point. Of course, we don't know of anyone or any group has submitted any cases, so maybe the most vociferous of complainers could get active, start petitions etc.

[JohnM]

BBC News and Sport have done a great job covering Rob Burrow and Kevin Sinfield, as has Helen Skelton.

Maybe a concerted approach to them, and the President of the RFL asking why Sinfield has not been knighted might grab their attention.

However, any such campaign must be completely free of any shoulder-chipping.

Get going, all you social media warriors!

 

[Oxford]

I was shocked about Kev being snubbed because he's been in kick & clap for longer than the ten minutes it usually takes.

[JohnM]

Just read a rage piece on Leeds Live website. Some quite intemperate posts in the comment section. This sort of stuff is unlikely to advance the cause.

"It's an utter disgrace especially given that 4 amateur women footballers are being honoured for playing what is no better then Sunday morning stuff. Oh yes...of course they are women so they get them by default. I also imagine the honours list will be rated with people of all colours, genders and faiths who haven't contribute one iota of what Kev has. Kev has missed out because he's white and married to woman- his face doesn't fit. If he came out as trans they would be falling over themselves to Knight him"