Josef K Posted September 25, 2023 Posted September 25, 2023 What is Trin’s current capacity, i know they have sold out a couple of games near the end of the season. Is it 5/6,000 ?.
meast Posted September 25, 2023 Posted September 25, 2023 4 hours ago, Josef K said: What was each club’s average attendance after the regular season. That’s if all clubs announced and gave the correct attendances!!!!. Surely any club could withhold attendances and just post a made-up figure to look good if they wanted to? Anyway, Huddersfield 5,262, up from 5,126 on last year, not bad given the poor quality and lack of wins this year. 1 Huddersfield Giants Supporters Association
Wellsy4HullFC Posted September 25, 2023 Posted September 25, 2023 (edited) On 23/09/2023 at 08:47, ATLANTISMAN said: Hopefully this will be the first season when fans actually attend the play offs Predictions Hull KR v Leigh Leopards 10000 St Helens v Warrington Wolves 15000 Catalans Dragons v Hull KR or Leigh Leopards 13000 Wigan v St Helens or Warrington Wolves St Helens 25000 Warrington Wolves 16000 Paul Looking at the potential fixtures for the playoffs, there's no reason why there couldn't be huge crowds all round. Rovers and Leigh will be on a high, and the ground isn't huge so could make a big push to sell out. Leigh will travel well for their biggest league game in years and Rovers haven't had a home playoff for a long time. Saints v Warrington is a local derby. Catalans have 2 weeks to sell out a smaller-sized ground and will feel that could make the final. Wigan will be guaranteed a derby also, so could tempt people to buy early and build a huge crowd. EDIT - scratch that, Saints wouldn't play Wigan if they got through, they'd play Catalans. But a Leigh game would still be a derby, and Rovers take 100,000 away so should still be a good crowd! Edited September 25, 2023 by Wellsy4HullFC
GUBRATS Posted September 25, 2023 Posted September 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Wellsy4HullFC said: Looking at the potential fixtures for the playoffs, there's no reason why there couldn't be huge crowds all round. Rovers and Leigh will be on a high, and the ground isn't huge so could make a big push to sell out. Leigh will travel well for their biggest league game in years and Rovers haven't had a home playoff for a long time. Saints v Warrington is a local derby. Catalans have 2 weeks to sell out a smaller-sized ground and will feel that could make the final. Wigan will be guaranteed a derby also, so could tempt people to buy early and build a huge crowd. 1100 tickets available for Leigh at NCP , but a nightmare finding coaches for a 4-30 depart to Hull
Wellsy4HullFC Posted September 25, 2023 Posted September 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, GUBRATS said: 1100 tickets available for Leigh at NCP , but a nightmare finding coaches for a 4-30 depart to Hull I'm guessing the game days are set on league positions, but having the local derby on the Friday night would have made more sense!
Eddie Posted September 25, 2023 Author Posted September 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Damien said: Good news, though it would be interesting to see the actual figures. If it’s 30% on 500 it’s not that amazing. Plus if the WC and this year’s CC final are anything to go by I don’t believe what the RFL say about ticket sales anyway. 1
robt Posted September 25, 2023 Posted September 25, 2023 13 hours ago, weighman said: Doncaster had a few 1000+ crowds. 8 crowds this season over 1000. Lowest of 485 in the Challenge Cup v Workington, highest of 2564 in the playoff final (which is the clubs 5th highest attendance ever in the Eco-Power/Keepmoat Stadium era) Average attendance of 1091, which is the highest its been for a number of years. 6 www.donsstats.co.uk - Full results and player stats for Doncaster RLFC from 1951 to the current day.
EssexRL Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 10 hours ago, robt said: 8 crowds this season over 1000. Lowest of 485 in the Challenge Cup v Workington, highest of 2564 in the playoff final (which is the clubs 5th highest attendance ever in the Eco-Power/Keepmoat Stadium era) Average attendance of 1091, which is the highest its been for a number of years. Shows the potential for decent support if the club does ok in Championship. Was struck watching the game on Sunday how many home fans had club shirts and the diversity of the support age and gender-wise (obviously not a scientific analysis just an impression). 1
Just Browny Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 9 I can confirm 30+ less sales for Scotland vs Italy at Workington, after this afternoons test purchase for the Tonga match, £7.50 is extremely reasonable, however a £2.50 'delivery' fee for a walk in purchase is beyond taking the mickey, good luck with that, it's cheaper on the telly.
Dave T Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 37 minutes ago, Just Browny said: Great stuff, they did also get over 18k against us in Barcelona. 1
Josef K Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 A mate at work who loves numbers & stats has worked out the average club attendance this season after the 13 home games. He worked out the attendances that have been printed in the press including the 14,000 at Saints on Friday. Leeds are the best supported club once again. But ten club have seen a rise in attendances 1. Leeds 13,804 + 864 2. Wigan 13,497 +1,219 3. Saints 12.782 + 931 4. Hull 12,345 + 1,582 5. Wire 10,889 + 2,170 6. Catalans 9,062 + 994 7. HKR 8,710 + 922 8. Leigh 7,253 - 9. Cas 7,170 - 372 10. Salford 5,293 + 764 11. Huddersfield 5,257 + 113 12 Wakefield 4,299 - 314. If these are correct (they may not be!!!!) it’s good to see attendances improving. It would be great if the clubs could build on them for 2024. If Fev come up would they average more than Trin, i haven’t a clue ?. 1 1
JM2010 Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 22 minutes ago, Josef K said: A mate at work who loves numbers & stats has worked out the average club attendance this season after the 13 home games. He worked out the attendances that have been printed in the press including the 14,000 at Saints on Friday. Leeds are the best supported club once again. But ten club have seen a rise in attendances 1. Leeds 13,804 + 864 2. Wigan 13,497 +1,219 3. Saints 12.782 + 931 4. Hull 12,345 + 1,582 5. Wire 10,889 + 2,170 6. Catalans 9,062 + 994 7. HKR 8,710 + 922 8. Leigh 7,253 - 9. Cas 7,170 - 372 10. Salford 5,293 + 764 11. Huddersfield 5,257 + 113 12 Wakefield 4,299 - 314. If these are correct (they may not be!!!!) it’s good to see attendances improving. It would be great if the clubs could build on them for 2024. If Fev come up would they average more than Trin, i haven’t a clue ?. Not sure what the capacity is at Fev. You’d like to think they’d at least match it.
Eddie Posted September 26, 2023 Author Posted September 26, 2023 32 minutes ago, Josef K said: A mate at work who loves numbers & stats has worked out the average club attendance this season after the 13 home games. He worked out the attendances that have been printed in the press including the 14,000 at Saints on Friday. Leeds are the best supported club once again. But ten club have seen a rise in attendances 1. Leeds 13,804 + 864 2. Wigan 13,497 +1,219 3. Saints 12.782 + 931 4. Hull 12,345 + 1,582 5. Wire 10,889 + 2,170 6. Catalans 9,062 + 994 7. HKR 8,710 + 922 8. Leigh 7,253 - 9. Cas 7,170 - 372 10. Salford 5,293 + 764 11. Huddersfield 5,257 + 113 12 Wakefield 4,299 - 314. If these are correct (they may not be!!!!) it’s good to see attendances improving. It would be great if the clubs could build on them for 2024. If Fev come up would they average more than Trin, i haven’t a clue ?. Good stuff, and it’s fair to say with Wakey’s ground rebuild and terrible form plus Cas’ terrible form their reductions are surprisingly low. This should be celebrated by SL and the RFL. 1
Eddie Posted September 26, 2023 Author Posted September 26, 2023 11 minutes ago, JM2010 said: Not sure what the capacity is at Fev. You’d like to think they’d at least match it. 6,954 according to Wiki.
JM2010 Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 18 minutes ago, Eddie said: 6,954 according to Wiki. If that’s the case then there’s a chance they might beat Wakey’s average.
M j M Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 Given crowds are a factor in IMG's spreadsheet exercise to what degree do we think some of these figures have been massaged...? 1
Tommygilf Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 57 minutes ago, M j M said: Given crowds are a factor in IMG's spreadsheet exercise to what degree do we think some of these figures have been massaged...? Genuine question, how much do you think that they can be massaged? What sort of numbers we talking getting added on?
Dave T Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 1 hour ago, M j M said: Given crowds are a factor in IMG's spreadsheet exercise to what degree do we think some of these figures have been massaged...? The thresholds are 3k and 7.5k for the higher points, so there aren't really any close calls there. No club has moved fr one band to another year on year. Instinctively it doesn't feel like there is a challenge around these numbers, there seems to be a logic to each of them. Hull KR is the odd one tbh, the way they have announced them, but they have had a good season, including a Wembley trip, so their increase could be expected. 4
Aerosaint Posted September 27, 2023 Posted September 27, 2023 Anyone else have their GF tickets moved due to the entertainment staging? I was upgraded from Cat. 4 to 2 so not too upset.
Damien Posted September 27, 2023 Posted September 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, Aerosaint said: Anyone else have their GF tickets moved due to the entertainment staging? I was upgraded from Cat. 4 to 2 so not too upset. It seems odd that they would have to do that, surely its been the same setup practically every year?
Dave T Posted September 27, 2023 Posted September 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Damien said: It seems odd that they would have to do that, surely its been the same setup practically every year? Hopefully that means it'll be different staging this year?
Damien Posted September 27, 2023 Posted September 27, 2023 18 minutes ago, Dave T said: Hopefully that means it'll be different staging this year? Mmmm, what Indie bands from the 90s have we not had yet?
Leyther_Matt Posted September 27, 2023 Posted September 27, 2023 22 hours ago, Tommygilf said: Genuine question, how much do you think that they can be massaged? What sort of numbers we talking getting added on? Ranges from a few hundred to a few thousand. Sometimes it is justified by non attending ticket holders (even if they are comps), sometimes it is just a number plucked out of the air. It has been linked to the central funding for years and the announced figure taken at face value, despite an office further down the corridor holding the correct figures via the SGSA.
RayCee Posted September 27, 2023 Posted September 27, 2023 On 27/09/2023 at 01:18, Josef K said: A mate at work who loves numbers & stats has worked out the average club attendance this season after the 13 home games. He worked out the attendances that have been printed in the press including the 14,000 at Saints on Friday. Leeds are the best supported club once again. But ten club have seen a rise in attendances 1. Leeds 13,804 + 864 2. Wigan 13,497 +1,219 3. Saints 12.782 + 931 4. Hull 12,345 + 1,582 5. Wire 10,889 + 2,170 6. Catalans 9,062 + 994 7. HKR 8,710 + 922 8. Leigh 7,253 - 9. Cas 7,170 - 372 10. Salford 5,293 + 764 11. Huddersfield 5,257 + 113 12 Wakefield 4,299 - 314. If these are correct (they may not be!!!!) it’s good to see attendances improving. It would be great if the clubs could build on them for 2024. If Fev come up would they average more than Trin, i haven’t a clue ?. Interesting stats. I put together a list that is close to those figures. https://rugbyl.blogspot.com/ 1 My blog: https://rugbyl.blogspot.co.nz/ It takes wisdom to know when a discussion has run its course. It takes reasonableness to end that discussion.
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