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23 minutes ago, Snowys Backside said:

Bearing in mind also that on average, Leigh are the ‘most expensive’ side in SL when it comes to ST on average. 
 

Not giving them away for peanuts so fair play. 
 

Just need to work a way now to increase the capacity more now for the bigger games instead of the deadlocked 10309 ! 

Mmm, not sure on that What you need to do first is stay competitive. If you don’t that support will quickly evaporate. I’d say your now entering a rebuilding phase and this season could go either way.

I think it’s a bit premature to suggest your capacity is an issue at the moment. If you continue as you are and cement yourself as a top club then maybe in a few years something will need to be done.

If you think I’m being negative or putting Leigh down I’m not. I have the same discussion with Trinity fans demanding an all singing all dancing west stand instead of the more modest effort proposed. There is no point creating a capacity we can’t guarantee we will hit on a regular basis. That stand would quickly become a white elephant.

For me the success needs to be far more long term before huge investments are made. if I were Leigh I’d spend my money developing the local junior game and create that conveyor belt of talent.

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21 minutes ago, Kirmonds pouch said:

Mmm, not sure on that What you need to do first is stay competitive. If you don’t that support will quickly evaporate. I’d say your now entering a rebuilding phase and this season could go either way.

I think it’s a bit premature to suggest your capacity is an issue at the moment. If you continue as you are and cement yourself as a top club then maybe in a few years something will need to be done.

If you think I’m being negative or putting Leigh down I’m not. I have the same discussion with Trinity fans demanding an all singing all dancing west stand instead of the more modest effort proposed. There is no point creating a capacity we can’t guarantee we will hit on a regular basis. That stand would quickly become a white elephant.

For me the success needs to be far more long term before huge investments are made. if I were Leigh I’d spend my money developing the local junior game and create that conveyor belt of talent.

Spot on much of this, the club have long wanted a player pathway due to the success and strength of the Amateur game in Leigh but have always struggled as a club outside of SL with academy fixtures and the best young players rightly choosing Wigan, Saints, Warrington and even Salford.

The plan has always been establish themselves in SL first and then have a pathway from Leigh Miners, Leigh East, Leigh RU, Westhoughton Lions and Golborne Parkside for both boys and girls and that is now in place with the club having just short of 100 juniors at Scholarship, Academy and Reserve level, obviously it will take time to produce first teamers but if you ask most Leigh fans we have wanted this setup for a long time.

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8 hours ago, Kirmonds pouch said:

Mmm, not sure on that What you need to do first is stay competitive. If you don’t that support will quickly evaporate. I’d say your now entering a rebuilding phase and this season could go either way.

I think it’s a bit premature to suggest your capacity is an issue at the moment. If you continue as you are and cement yourself as a top club then maybe in a few years something will need to be done.

If you think I’m being negative or putting Leigh down I’m not. I have the same discussion with Trinity fans demanding an all singing all dancing west stand instead of the more modest effort proposed. There is no point creating a capacity we can’t guarantee we will hit on a regular basis. That stand would quickly become a white elephant.

For me the success needs to be far more long term before huge investments are made. if I were Leigh I’d spend my money developing the local junior game and create that conveyor belt of talent.

You might be reading a little too much to what i say as the LSV is a stadium which holds 12000 with a reduced capacity for red tape and entertainment. When 70% of the Capacity is used irrespective of performance on the pitch or whoever we play (not including walk ups) it will be difficult for Away fans and home fans alike as Derek has always insisted the South Stand should be the 'away end'. If this is the case, there will not be many seats for walk ups ! We had a shocking start to last season winning only one of the first 8, but it didn't have any detrimental effect on the attendances.

It will be a shame to keep the capacity as it is when the big local Derbies are amongst us and far more than Capacity want to attend. HKR need a bigger boat but to their advantage, I feel they are not bothered for any away fans !

In regards to grass roots, you are pretty much spot on and the ST sales contribute to this. The building blocks are in place and finally the Town could well have a team for the local youngsters to play for with players to look up to.

As far as Wakey are concerned, relegation has done you some good. You have consolidated, reset and reflected.  I feel you will do well next season and I wish you well. 

 

 

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8 hours ago, Snowys Backside said:

You might be reading a little too much to what i say as the LSV is a stadium which holds 12000 with a reduced capacity for red tape and entertainment. When 70% of the Capacity is used irrespective of performance on the pitch or whoever we play (not including walk ups) it will be difficult for Away fans and home fans alike as Derek has always insisted the South Stand should be the 'away end'. If this is the case, there will not be many seats for walk ups ! We had a shocking start to last season winning only one of the first 8, but it didn't have any detrimental effect on the attendances.

It will be a shame to keep the capacity as it is when the big local Derbies are amongst us and far more than Capacity want to attend. HKR need a bigger boat but to their advantage, I feel they are not bothered for any away fans !

In regards to grass roots, you are pretty much spot on and the ST sales contribute to this. The building blocks are in place and finally the Town could well have a team for the local youngsters to play for with players to look up to.

As far as Wakey are concerned, relegation has done you some good. You have consolidated, reset and reflected.  I feel you will do well next season and I wish you well. 

 

 

It’s not really just a Leigh thing tbh. RL is a small game but to many people have that build it and they will come mentality - they won’t.

It’s taken Wigan years to make the Brick stadium viable, and even now they rarely hit capacity. Ditto Saints and Hull FC.

It’s not capacity we need, it’s interest and participation. Once that happens then other things like ground development will happen naturally.

The only club in SL imho that has a capacity issue is HKR, but even that is manageable at present and could also be very transitory.

Both you and HKR have definitely gate crashed the party of late and that’s great, but let’s not run before you can walk. 10k is more than adequate for your club and the odd sell out is actually a good thing, it creates a demand of its own.

Finally, a word of warning, Leigh is a small place and it has a natural ceiling fan wise, as does Cas. You mustn’t lose site of that. Same as Wakefield fans with Leeds, they have no limits, we do.

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Business is about supply and demand. Leigh will have under 1000 tickets on general sale for the big derbies, we can open up the south for home fans and move the smaller followings to the South end of the East stand - the likes of Hudds, KR Cas etc will have plenty with about 700 available you can also keep the East sections of the South closed until the week before just in case.

We should also be putting up general admission in the home sections when the demand will outstrip supply also imo

picked up the family tickets today, Derek and the Jet 2 CEO doing the meet n greet, chatting with fans and talking up the partnership - it seems Jet2 are more than pleased so far with what was described to me as “a true partnership” with mutual benefits

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4 hours ago, JM2010 said:

What’s the record for the highest average SL attendance in a season? 
I think it might get beaten this year

Not with Thursday games Wakey will add 50000 to the comp which is about 300 average and Hull will draw more

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24 minutes ago, Damien said:

I always think this kind of thing is a great way to get the next generation on board:

 

 

That’s how I got into supporting Leigh, playing junior rugby on Sunday mornings and the amateur club I played for gave all the players free kids tickets to go to Hilton Park.

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9200 season tickets sold by Hull KR:

And that demand is growing, with the minutes from the last Supporters’ Council meeting taken in November 2024, it was revealed that 9,200 memberships had been sold for 2025.

Given the fact that the figure has almost tripled in just a number of years, Rovers are a Super League club well and truly on the up.

https://www.totalrl.com/hull-krs-stadium-development-latest-as-super-league-club-registers-incredible-season-ticket-sales/

 

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1 hour ago, Damien said:

9200 season tickets sold by Hull KR:

And that demand is growing, with the minutes from the last Supporters’ Council meeting taken in November 2024, it was revealed that 9,200 memberships had been sold for 2025.

Given the fact that the figure has almost tripled in just a number of years, Rovers are a Super League club well and truly on the up.

https://www.totalrl.com/hull-krs-stadium-development-latest-as-super-league-club-registers-incredible-season-ticket-sales/

 

That is brilliant. Do the SL clubs offer varying membership options? 

Clubs here will have the standard full season packages for various sections with varying standards of view, comfort and amenities, but they will also offer reduced season packages using GA seats which includes say six or three games a season as well as the member stash.

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10 hours ago, Sports Prophet said:

That is brilliant. Do the SL clubs offer varying membership options? 

Clubs here will have the standard full season packages for various sections with varying standards of view, comfort and amenities, but they will also offer reduced season packages using GA seats which includes say six or three games a season as well as the member stash.

Some do, certainly not all though

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On 21/12/2024 at 11:34, Kirmonds pouch said:

Finally, a word of warning, Leigh is a small place and it has a natural ceiling fan wise, as does Cas. You mustn’t lose site of that.

Obviously Leigh's support is coming from Leigh, Golborne, Tyldesley etc. but anyone looking in from the outside might consider Leigh effectively a suburb of Manchester and wonder why Leigh can't draw support from the wider region, in exactly the same way that Sale RU, representing a different suburb of Manchester, is able to do. Majoring on the Leopards branding rather than emphasising Leigh perhaps helps there.

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3 hours ago, JonM said:

Obviously Leigh's support is coming from Leigh, Golborne, Tyldesley etc. but anyone looking in from the outside might consider Leigh effectively a suburb of Manchester and wonder why Leigh can't draw support from the wider region, in exactly the same way that Sale RU, representing a different suburb of Manchester, is able to do. Majoring on the Leopards branding rather than emphasising Leigh perhaps helps there.

I mentioned this last season but I feel Leigh could easily play their home fixture v Wigan at Bolton (if available). 
 

A massive Town and a catchment for both clubs and will easily outstrip Leigh’s limited capacity. 
 

Outside of RL, many Leigh fans are BWFC supporters and even a few hundred can make a huge difference. 
 

In regards to Manny, that’s one for Oldham. I can see them doing well under the guidance of Mike Ford 🤛

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44 minutes ago, Snowys Backside said:

I mentioned this last season but I feel Leigh could easily play their home fixture v Wigan at Bolton (if available). 
 

A massive Town and a catchment for both clubs and will easily outstrip Leigh’s limited capacity. 
 

Outside of RL, many Leigh fans are BWFC supporters and even a few hundred can make a huge difference. 
 

In regards to Manny, that’s one for Oldham. I can see them doing well under the guidance of Mike Ford 🤛

I was going to suggest this. If there's only the odd fixture that pushes the attendance capacity, it might be a better model to keep the sparsity for building demand for weekly games whilst at the same time having a one-off at a bigger ground to have that big event feel and increase attendance average. It's a situation I wish we had an option of in Hull. Our own 15k stadium that we build to fill weekly, with the option of a much larger stadium for big events like the derby. Needs to make financial sense though obviously.

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1 hour ago, Snowys Backside said:

I mentioned this last season but I feel Leigh could easily play their home fixture v Wigan at Bolton (if available). 
 

A massive Town and a catchment for both clubs and will easily outstrip Leigh’s limited capacity. 
 

Outside of RL, many Leigh fans are BWFC supporters and even a few hundred can make a huge difference. 
 

In regards to Manny, that’s one for Oldham. I can see them doing well under the guidance of Mike Ford 🤛

Completely commercially and morally wrong for Leigh. The fixture will sell out  easily incl boxes, all sponsorship packages and corporate dining. The LSV costs will be next to nothing and the partnership benefits from the secondary spend in the ground - and then the inconvenience to the most important stakeholders ie season ticket holders/sponsors plus the losing of a hostile crowd and home advantage. Pre season friendly or CC game maybe. A good season and it will be season ticket only in 2026 anyway.

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Newcastle Thunder have found a new home at a local amateur RU team's home ground.  Not sure if this is good or bad news to be honest.

 

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19 minutes ago, langpark said:

Newcastle Thunder have found a new home at a local amateur RU team's home ground.  Not sure if this is good or bad news to be honest.

They played some games there last season. Probably a better venue as a spectator than Gateshead International Stadium.  Realistically, Blaydon RU are a 5th tier semi-pro team getting similar sized attendances to Thunder.

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3 hours ago, sweaty craiq said:

Completely commercially and morally wrong for Leigh. The fixture will sell out  easily incl boxes, all sponsorship packages and corporate dining. The LSV costs will be next to nothing and the partnership benefits from the secondary spend in the ground - and then the inconvenience to the most important stakeholders ie season ticket holders/sponsors plus the losing of a hostile crowd and home advantage. Pre season friendly or CC game maybe. A good season and it will be season ticket only in 2026 anyway.

Might only lose by 30 at Bolton 😂

Not sure about your opinion but your entitled to it like anybody else. 

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2 hours ago, Snowys Backside said:

Might only lose by 30 at Bolton 😂

Not sure about your opinion but your entitled to it like anybody else. 

SC raises a good point though regarding the relationship with the council (and this is relevant to any club in a rented ground) which I haven't seen raised on here previously - it would be poor form to take the most valuable game of the year to another town and the revenue that comes with it. Having sellout games like the one against Wigan are what keeps the LSV deal sweeter because they are the fixtures that keep the stadium commercially viable. There's no need to be looking elsewhere - if it's selling out a couple of times a year then great, use that scarcity to draw people to lesser fixtures and work on selling those out too.

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9 hours ago, sweaty craiq said:

Completely commercially and morally wrong for Leigh. The fixture will sell out  easily incl boxes, all sponsorship packages and corporate dining. The LSV costs will be next to nothing and the partnership benefits from the secondary spend in the ground - and then the inconvenience to the most important stakeholders ie season ticket holders/sponsors plus the losing of a hostile crowd and home advantage. Pre season friendly or CC game maybe. A good season and it will be season ticket only in 2026 anyway.

“The fixture will sell out easily”.  Really?

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26 minutes ago, Dullish Mood said:

“The fixture will sell out easily”.  Really?

Wigan will get 2500 tickets which leaves less than 1000 in general sale, of course it will sell out

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12 hours ago, Dullish Mood said:

“The fixture will sell out easily”.  Really?

It’s sold out the last 2 years, and there are now even more season ticket holders at Leigh than in those years making less available for general sale. So yeah it more than likely will sell out very comfortably.

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13 hours ago, Dullish Mood said:

“The fixture will sell out easily”.  Really?

Will demand 12k plus easily hence me challenging the reduced capacity of the stadium. 
 

Due to ST sales hitting 7k, it won’t be the only sell out yet frustrating when there is still plenty of ‘capacity’ to go at. 

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