Eastmond

[Wiltshire Warrior Dragon]

4 minutes ago, Allora said:

1. Has anyone in authority suggested that?

2. Posters thoughts are worth not much on the scale of things.

3. Would I have him back? No, he was going to be the next big thing which I did not really buy into, left and cashed in with Union as is his choice.

4. He should finish his career there IMO, he has little or nothing to offer in Rugby League at his stage of his career.

5. Its not a Union V League thing but I do not think League should be a safety net to fall into when your Union options have dried up.

6. You make your choices in life and live with the consequences.

 

 

1.  No idea - almost certainly not, not least of all because of the futility (and illegality) of such a general stance.

2.  True, but they are all that keep this forum going.

3.  I agree.

4.  I largely agree.  The exception might be if I had a coach/someone on my coaching staff who I knew/suspected was particularly good at reintroducing erstwhile RL payers back to the code.

5.  In the eyes of some, it is a union -v- league thing, hence the unease expressed by some other posters on this thread (eg Padge and Futtocks) and me about the prospect of excluding somebody from RL, specifically because of another way they opted to earn a living.

6.  I agree.  One such choice should be to return to a previous aspect of your career if - as you rightly point out - anybody will have you!

[paulwalker71]

I can't believe some of the comments on this thread

High morals don't really come into it - if he shows any sign of wanting to come back to RL there will absolutely be a number of SL clubs who will be trying to sign him.

In case people haven't noticed, there is a significant talent shortage in Rugby League. Yes, by all means, work hard at developing 'our own' players. But alongside that, if a quality player becomes available, then there will be plenty of suitors, I am sure of that!

[billie joe]

Let's be honest if RU has it's way RL wouldn't exist damn them to hell for me.

[Southerner80]

1 hour ago, paulwalker71 said:

I can't believe some of the comments on this thread

High morals don't really come into it - if he shows any sign of wanting to come back to RL there will absolutely be a number of SL clubs who will be trying to sign him.

In case people haven't noticed, there is a significant talent shortage in Rugby League. Yes, by all means, work hard at developing 'our own' players. But alongside that, if a quality player becomes available, then there will be plenty of suitors, I am sure of that!

Agree. He's a young man trying to earn a living, and ultimately as long as he puts in effort on the field you can't begrudge him a contract. Time will tell what happens.

I would like to see him back in SL. 

[Desert Skipper]

13 hours ago, paulwalker71 said:

I can't believe some of the comments on this thread

High morals don't really come into it - if he shows any sign of wanting to come back to RL there will absolutely be a number of SL clubs who will be trying to sign him.

In case people haven't noticed, there is a significant talent shortage in Rugby League. Yes, by all means, work hard at developing 'our own' players. But alongside that, if a quality player becomes available, then there will be plenty of suitors, I am sure of that!

Got nothing against Eastmond personally and hope he gets his future sorted, but no club would be silly enough to take a gamble with the sort of money he’d be looking for.   He’d be much better off on an average union contract which will still be far in excess of what he’d earn in league.

[John Rhino]

On 5/23/2018 at 9:16 PM, frank said:

There should be no way back for these guys who have spent their best years playing Union.Once they have made that move that's it.

That's sailing close to the bigotry we spent over a century criticising in union. Its now a free jobs market and any attempt at discrimination would be illegal 

[Allora]

If you worked at Coca Cola and they Had invested considerable time in you and then you jumped to Pepsi for more money.

Pepsi decide that they have give up on this project as its not want  they want now.

Let him go and develop players that will stay in the game and invest in what got them their opportunity

[Dunbar]

26 minutes ago, Allora said:

If you worked at Coca Cola and they Had invested considerable time in you and then you jumped to Pepsi for more money.

Pepsi decide that they have give up on this project as its not want  they want now.

Let him go and develop players that will stay in the game and invest in what got them their opportunity

Are you trying to say that in the corporate world recruitment decisions are made on moral or emotional grounds. Quite the opposite... hard nosed commertiality wins out.

In the scenario abovr the decision making process is.

- does this person offer something we need (skills, knowledge, experience)

- can we get that at the right price which will offer value to my organisation.

I expect any Rugby League club to think in a similar way.

[RP London]

2 hours ago, Allora said:

If you worked at Coca Cola and they Had invested considerable time in you and then you jumped to Pepsi for more money.

Pepsi decide that they have give up on this project as its not want  they want now.

Let him go and develop players that will stay in the game and invest in what got them their opportunity

A bank I used to work for underpaid lower jobs but paid a very good wage for more senior people... it meant you pest got more experience somewhere else with different practices and products then you would go back (as they did treat you well) with new ideas.... was a very good and very very successful policy (and known well in the industry)... 

Happens a lot in business and no one bats an eyelid. 

[paulwalker71]

7 hours ago, Desert Skipper said:

Got nothing against Eastmond personally and hope he gets his future sorted, but no club would be silly enough to take a gamble with the sort of money he’d be looking for.   He’d be much better off on an average union contract which will still be far in excess of what he’d earn in league.

Well, that will play out over coming months. If he is able to get the contract that he wants in RU then, of course, he would have that option. 

Or perhaps he fancies the challenge of proving himself in RL, in which case maybe he would be willing to take the best contract he can get from a SL club.

The truth is that none of us knows what contract he would or would not be willing to sign. What I was referring to in my post were people saying that he should not, even must not, be allowed to play in RL again because in some way he has 'burnt his bridges'. That just seems crazy to me (as well as completely illegal in any case in these days of free movement)

[EastLondonMike]

Forget the money, RL clubs have purchased plenty of over-rated and injury prone players over the years and will continue to do so.

I couldn't care any less what he might be paid if he came back.

Eastmond is a talent and one id much rather play RL than RU, and i hope he signs for a SL team soon.

[MrPosh]

9 hours ago, Desert Skipper said:

Got nothing against Eastmond personally and hope he gets his future sorted, but no club would be silly enough to take a gamble with the sort of money he’d be looking for.   He’d be much better off on an average union contract which will still be far in excess of what he’d earn in league.

I find it astonishing that there are alternative views to this one.

[Dunbar]

10 minutes ago, MrPosh said:

I find it astonishing that there are alternative views to this one.

This place would be very boring if we all thought the same thing.

Or more likely this place wouldn't exist.

[Man of Kent]

Warrington...

[EastLondonMike]

Wasn't Warrington the rumoured destination last time his contract was up?.. 

Wonder if Wigan will take a look at him.

[Kris]

There are rumours about patten so that would fit

 

[Lowdesert]

9 hours ago, Man of Kent said:

Warrington...

According the Matthew Shaw on twitter yesterday.

[paulwalker71]

Todays LE suggests he is highly likely to be at Warrington next season

At least one other SL club (not named) also trying to sign him

[EagleEyePie]

So it's rumoured that Wire are interested in signing Eastmond and that Patton could be leaving them. Can't exactly see the sense in that. Obviously the club don't rate Patton as highly as some others but he's still one of the most promising halves in the competition. To then bring in Eastmond would seem like odd business. He's had a terrible record with injuries, has been out of the sport for years and not every player who goes to rugby union returns with the same success that Charnley has had.

[Man of Kent]

 

[ELBOWSEYE]

3 hours ago, EagleEyePie said:

So it's rumoured that Wire are interested in signing Eastmond and that Patton could be leaving them. Can't exactly see the sense in that. Obviously the club don't rate Patton as highly as some others but he's still one of the most promising halves in the competition. To then bring in Eastmond would seem like odd business. He's had a terrible record with injuries, has been out of the sport for years and not every player who goes to rugby union returns with the same success that Charnley has had.

Rumour has it that Patton has high wage demands, and that would pressure the cap directly were has Eastmond wage demands are offset by relaxing the rules for RU players. Not saying I agree with this as Patton seems to be improving under Price. 

[The British Lion]

I really hope this isn't true. Nothing against Eastmond. 

When Wire have the likes of Lee Briers on coaching staff - they should be going all out to develop Patten, who for me, has massive potential

[DavidM]

20 hours ago, ELBOWSEYE said:

Rumour has it that Patton has high wage demands, and that would pressure the cap directly were has Eastmond wage demands are offset by relaxing the rules for RU players. Not saying I agree with this as Patton seems to be improving under Price. 

You’d think he’d want to play first and foremost , so shouldn’t be demanding so much it may make suitors think twice ?

[The British Lion]

I'd be surprised if his wage demands are high. 

 

Hopefully it will all get sorted and Patten gets some proper investment and game time.

[DavidM]

You’d think with brown , and Roberts often reported as not settling , they’d want Patton as a long term half who’s time is close . Look at Richardson , give these kids a gig and a bit of time and they have the tools