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3 minutes ago, ckn said:

18 posts removed, I’ll decide in the morning whether to ban someone or not.

So much utter drivel in this thread already, I'm seriously contemplating imposing a ban on discussing anything relating to Toronto Wolfpack in this section of the forum, beyond the usual match threads, because the prospect of having to moderate this pointless yah-boo rubbish any longer is doing my head in. ?

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ckn

ckn

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Right, opening the thread. A firm rule: if you publicly attack another forum member, IN MY SUBJECTIVE JUDGEMENT, then I will start with a plan to ban you outright then look for any mitigating circumstances. Most likely, I will simply see someone winding you up and ban them as well rather than reduce the consequences on you.

If someone's winding you up and it's not in clearly good spirits then hit report. Deal with it yourself and you are going to get banned.

If you're a fervent traditionalist who can't tolerate anyone who lives more than hearing distance from the M62 playing your sport then please stay away from this thread and any other Toronto threads as you're just going to get banned.

If you're a Toronto fan who gets all princess-like if someone dares fairly criticise your club, grow a thicker skin or you too will find yourself banned.

"When in deadly danger, when beset by doubt; run in little circles, wave your arms and shout"

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aj1908

aj1908

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14 hours ago, Kayakman said:

Its going to be tough playing with one arm tied behind our backs but we will give it a go.  It will be a successful season.

It's one game lol see after a month or two.  

Man of Kent

Man of Kent

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7 minutes ago, aj1908 said:

Here I was thinking you made it up just to get bites on here

My apologies ! 

Not at all. I pointed out those odds before. Seems the bookies bought the Wolfpack hype too.

Kayakman

Kayakman

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I thought the Wolpfack didn't look half bad but the team needs a few games to gel and get to know one another.   Toronto needs to be tougher in the forwards and not let them run at us...just a little  late off the mark is all...it will come.

I enjoyed the game....good signs for the future.

Oxford

Oxford

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43 minutes ago, Kayakman said:

I thought the Wolpfack didn't look half bad but the team needs a few games to gel and get to know one another.   Toronto needs to be tougher in the forwards and not let them run at us...just a little  late off the mark is all...it will come.

I enjoyed the game....good signs for the future.

I've no idea what the moderation stuff is all about but TWP did a good job of reminding us of what RL is about even if they lost.

Soy Ramon y este es mi camión....

 

 

 

dkw

dkw

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1 hour ago, Kayakman said:

I thought the Wolpfack didn't look half bad but the team needs a few games to gel and get to know one another.   Toronto needs to be tougher in the forwards and not let them run at us...just a little  late off the mark is all...it will come.

I enjoyed the game....good signs for the future.

I thought they did well in the second half, the 1st half caught them completely off guard with the speed of the game and they tried to play a strange game of being very conservative to then just wildly throw daft passes. Also Cas are no mugs, losing to them is nothing to be concerned about. 

Bob8

Bob8

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11 minutes ago, dkw said:

I thought they did well in the second half, the 1st half caught them completely off guard with the speed of the game and they tried to play a strange game of being very conservative to then just wildly throw daft passes. Also Cas are no mugs, losing to them is nothing to be concerned about. 

Indeed, the table after game 1 is not a great predictor of the end of the season. Nonetheless, there are a few things that TWP have to struggle with them.

- Recruitment for players will be harder as they make a larger imposition on the players' lives
- They are recruiting a team having just been promoted
- Their future at the club is less certain

Of those, two are specific to TWP and one is specific to their position as a Candian club.

"You clearly have never met Bob8 then, he's like a veritable Bryan Ferry of RL." - Johnoco 19 Jul 2014

Mr Frisky

Mr Frisky

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2 minutes ago, scotchy1 said:

It's not the same for every club. 

It's not the same for them in terms of spending power and when things like long service discounts are applied it's not the same in absolute numbers 

You are correct Toronto dont have the costs and organisation to run a reserve team - yep I agree that's a bit unfair.

To be honest SL should have announced a 14 team comp next year and have 2 teams coming up and back to relegation in 2021. Would have let all clubs plan for 2 years and let the champ clubs build slowly rather than go for broke with ex SL signings. SL needs 14 teams sooner rather than later - especially with a second French and Canadian team hovering soon as well as maybe New York.

Man of Kent

Man of Kent

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10 minutes ago, scotchy1 said:

This is good but still entrenches the positions of squads somewhat.

If that happens for instance leeds can take out the wages of Walker, Newman, Oledski, Smith, A sutcliffe, johnson, McClelland, Holroyd, Walters who I would hope all get some games this year, some are already 1st team and will be on decent wages (though some 9bviously wont)

I'm sure saints and Wigan and a few others have similar. 

This will give them a lot more to spend. 

Where are Toronto going to get good u21s from at this stage? Perhaps a few loans but it doesnt really address the problem. 

Toronto are probably banjaxed for this season and should they be relegated it would be a case of tough titty. Their choice to overpay for an understrength squad. Trying to bounce Super League into giving them special dispensations - asking turkeys to vote for Christmas, in other words - was doomed. Their best hope for this season could be a restructure.  

Longer term it's crystal clear that TWP need to develop their own players via investment in, say, London Skolars (as well as Canadian youth development) or they will be at even more of a disadvantage. 

Dave T

Dave T

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If I was a TWP fan I'd be most worried about the level of involvement of Jon Wilkin. God knows how he keeps getting into teams as a makeshift number 7. He is neither a forward who makes the hard yards (52m off 11 carries) nor a halfback who does anything creative, he just provides a pretty slow and clunky link to wider players. Sure, he is a tackling machine (48 tackles yesterday) but I don't want that from my main ball player. 

I think he needs to play as a forward with the occasional step up into the attacking positions.

Harry Stottle

Harry Stottle

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18 hours ago, Kayakman said:

Its going to be tough playing with one arm tied behind our backs but we will give it a go.  It will be a successful season.

Avoiding relegation will be a very successful season for TWP, I have discussed this with you before K'man I have pointed out that the majority of your squad is not of SL quality and your recent recruitment of SBW is like drinking from the Holy Grail and turning life's clock back it doesn't happen, seriously I do not remember seeing a SL pack collectively as slow as the one TWP fielded on Sunday, by the end of the season those old legs will have an extra year on in life's cycle and the rigours of the season will accelerate the ageing process, and if as is the norm in this sport injuries accur that will hit you much harder than most other clubs, but anyway good luck I think your club will need of it.

Harry Stottle

Harry Stottle

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2 hours ago, dkw said:

I thought they did well in the second half, the 1st half caught them completely off guard with the speed of the game and they tried to play a strange game of being very conservative to then just wildly throw daft passes. Also Cas are no mugs, losing to them is nothing to be concerned about. 

In his after match summary Brian Mac said that he considered Cas took their foot of the peddle for the last 15mins, I suspect a lot of teams will not be that benevolent towards them as the season progresses, it could well be that Cas still need time to get up to match speed, and considering they were short of 4 very influential starters it could have been much worse for Toronto on the scoreboard.

Hopping Mad

Hopping Mad

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2 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

In his after match summary Brian Mac said that he considered Cas took their foot of the peddle for the last 15mins...

I was at the game, and that's exactly how I saw it. Cas coasted through the last quarter.

You're not wrong about Wilkin!

Harry Stottle

Harry Stottle

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1 hour ago, scotchy1 said:

This is good but still entrenches the positions of squads somewhat.

If that happens for instance leeds can take out the wages of Walker, Newman, Oledski, Smith, A sutcliffe, johnson, McClelland, Holroyd, Walters who I would hope all get some games this year, some are already 1st team and will be on decent wages (though some 9bviously wont)

I'm sure saints and Wigan and a few others have similar. 

This will give them a lot more to spend. 

Where are Toronto going to get good u21s from at this stage? Perhaps a few loans but it doesnt really address the problem. 

Any dispensation should be either age related or taken out of being freebies after say 10 first team games being played, not both.

Kayakman

Kayakman

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45 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

Avoiding relegation will be a very successful season for TWP, I have discussed this with you before K'man I have pointed out that the majority of your squad is not of SL quality and your recent recruitment of SBW is like drinking from the Holy Grail and turning life's clock back it doesn't happen, seriously I do not remember seeing a SL pack collectively as slow as the one TWP fielded on Sunday, by the end of the season those old legs will have an extra year on in life's cycle and the rigours of the season will accelerate the ageing process, and if as is the norm in this sport injuries accur that will hit you much harder than most other clubs, but anyway good luck I think your club will need of it.

Hello Harry...long time no talk.   Sometimes Harry I just don't know what to do with you...you have missed the obvious yet again Old Chum.   Did you not see the new jerseys?   Did you not see 'Rugby Strength' on there....we have a secret weapon Harry...its the CBD oil, it changes everything!  Top 5 for us.

"Sprint With The Pack Harry!"...you need to try some.

Keep some of that luck you are giving out Harry...you will need it when you play Toulouse...they look good this season.

lucky 7

lucky 7

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Any other team sport in UK would be joining for joy if that had a team from North America playing in their competition, but not Rugby League fans who a majority always appear to be negative.

This is Rugby League best opportunity to break into the biggest sports market in the world that is North America and all we get is a lot of boofhead replies from apish posters.

Kayakman

Kayakman

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1 minute ago, lucky 7 said:

Any other team sport in UK would be joining for joy if that had a team from North America playing in their competition, but not Rugby League fans who a majority always appear to be negative.

This is Rugby League best opportunity to break into the biggest sports market in the world that is North America and all we get is a lot of boofhead replies from apish posters.

It literally unbelievable!..

.NO...this is not a Monty Python skit!...makes one shake their head in disbelief.  The mindset is totally off kilter.

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