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43 minutes ago, Saintslass said:

I think it's interesting that Boots have been working with the government to deliver the tests for the frontline workers, and indeed have just completed a trial of the drive in testing for frontline staff in Nottingham.  So clearly despite what the media and others have been saying about how the government isn't testing, they have been busy planning in the background with relevant businesses and Boots are due to roll out the drive in testing throughout the country.

It's amazing just how many businesses are getting involved.  Who would have thought the Royal Mint could produce visors for NHS staff?  I wouldn't have put money and visors together at any time no matter how much time you gave me to innovate that one!

Even on a local level there has been effort and innovation.  Here in St Helens we've had this little achievement take place:

 

I thought it was compulsory for females in St Helens to wear a mask so as not to frighten the children or horses😁

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4 hours ago, Bob8 said:

You still keep claiming to be the voice of authority. You are not.

The dscrepencies are because the police want something easy to police, which is not the exactly the same as minimising infection. The Government have not been as forthright.

I've not once claimed to be the voice of authority Bob. 

I posted some figures which you said were unreliable & irresponsible. 

I provided a link to the World Health Organisation Situation Reports which those figures are based on.

Your still upset that those figures clashed with your expert opinion. I'm sorry for that, get over it Bob. 

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1 hour ago, Robin Evans said:

Lost on me this. Is there a reference to something I'm.not aware of?

Could be a language issue.  Not everyone in those and other towns are fluent English readers and  speakers.  

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1 hour ago, Johnoco said:

Is there a relatively easy way to find out if you have it or it’s just a typical cold that you would have got anyway? I’m sure many people feel under the weather but is it CV or just the usual sniffles? Is there a rudimentary check? 
A quick google has left me none the wiser.

Cough and fever seem to be the main symptoms. There are some things on social media comparing symptoms with standard flu and colds. 

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1 hour ago, JohnM said:

Jason Leitch,  National Clincal Director for Scotland,  giving an excellent interview on BBC TV Breakfast right now. Clear messages, and for once uniteruppted by Naga Munchetti,  who unusually did not interrupt, or try to trip him up.

 

1 hour ago, Padge said:

He has been on a few times, he is always excellent. He is a straight to the point, clear message guy.

Agreed, although I missed this mornings interview. Was there anything new or just reaffirming what we should be doing? 

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1 hour ago, M j M said:

Just re where Johnson might have picked it up from -

 

Excellent, clear, unambiguous advice. 

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5 minutes ago, fairfolly said:

John M,

              Not really a language problem,maybe it is just the fact that they do not think the law applies to some of them

We're on really dodgy ground here. Best left I would say.

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8 minutes ago, fairfolly said:

Robin, 

             Did not want to appear racist,which I am definitely not. 

 

6 minutes ago, fairfolly said:

John M,

              Not really a language problem,maybe it is just the fact that they do not think the law applies to some of them

Yes, definitely don't want to come across as racist :kolobok_biggrin:

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14 minutes ago, Robin Evans said:

Wow.

Vast swathes of social media (and some moron members of the internet) seem to believe that rates of disobedience of the rules are higher amongst the non-indigenous population. (Their descriptor, usually, not mine.)

Needless to say, this is not actually true. Being a prat crosses all racial, class and age boundaries.

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Dave T,

            My two best mates are both Jamaican,my sons best man at his wedding was Pakistani. I have played Cricket with lots of West Indian and Asian guys. I now live in Spain where I have friends from Ecuador,Bolivia, Africa, A couple who we spend lots of time with, the husband is Russian, his wife South Korean, the local bar which we frequent is run by a Romanian couple.Now I would think anybody who has a selection of friends and acqaintances like that would definitely not be racist. Also my neighbours on either side of me are lovely Spanish families.

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6 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

Vast swathes of social media (and some moron members of the internet) seem to believe that rates of disobedience of the rules are higher amongst the non-indigenous population. (Their descriptor, usually, not mine.)

Needless to say, this is not actually true. Being a prat crosses all racial, class and age boundaries.

Trust me.... the born n bread numpties behaving like 2@s during this pandemic here in rawmarsh is astonishing. Absolutely astonishing. Sheffield is only 8 miles away and infection numbers have gone through the roof by all accounts.

White, English and thick as pig sheeite. 

Being daft does not require any condition of race, creed or colour.

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15 minutes ago, Dave T said:

 

Agreed, although I missed this mornings interview. Was there anything new or just reaffirming what we should be doing? 

A lot reaffirming but also explaining how testing works and how antibody testing works using chicken pox as an example.

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24 minutes ago, Smudger06 said:

I've not once claimed to be the voice of authority Bob. 

I posted some figures which you said were unreliable & irresponsible. 

I provided a link to the World Health Organisation Situation Reports which those figures are based on.

Your still upset that those figures clashed with your expert opinion. I'm sorry for that, get over it Bob. 

We will have to disagree on why you wrote. My rereading is different. Perhaps you have a far better insight into scientific data handling. We agree to disagree. 


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23 minutes ago, Dave T said:

Cough and fever seem to be the main symptoms. There are some things on social media comparing symptoms with standard flu and colds. 

There was a doctor on TV this morning saying it’s becoming clear that there are other less obvious symptoms. He said there’s been a growing trend of people who have had diarrhoea who are testing positive. Conjunctivitis is another one they’re seeing more cases of in COVID patients.

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Just looking out of my window at one of the container ships heading somewhere else, made me wonder if the ships crew became ill, and died, and as there is only usually less than 20 on board for a 4-6 month trip, what would happen to the ship?


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1 hour ago, Saintslass said:

I think it's interesting that Boots have been working with the government to deliver the tests for the frontline workers, and indeed have just completed a trial of the drive in testing for frontline staff in Nottingham.  So clearly despite what the media and others have been saying about how the government isn't testing, they have been busy planning in the background with relevant businesses and Boots are due to roll out the drive in testing throughout the country.

It's amazing just how many businesses are getting involved.  Who would have thought the Royal Mint could produce visors for NHS staff?  I wouldn't have put money and visors together at any time no matter how much time you gave me to innovate that one!

Even on a local level there has been effort and innovation.  Here in St Helens we've had this little achievement take place:

 

I have to say I'm a little bit surprised at what is still used as PPE in the health service , it seems we are still looking at it from a century ago , with paper masks ( which if we are honest are fairly useless as they will always draw air in from round the edges rather than filter through the paper ) and simple masks 

I have a Tribord Easybreath full face snorkel mask , it is air and watertight , it offers good visibility and is comfortable to the point I've spent up to 40 minutes in the water without taking it off , surely something similar to it , combined with either a reusable or disposable filter could be designed that would provide much better protection 

The question of sterilising could easily be solved by either steam ovens or UV light 

Give as we have seen with the ventilators , a specification for a full face , fan air fed mask using rechargeable batteries to a Dyson or G Tech , and something could be produced at reasonable cost 

It seems to me that we can spend trillions developing electric cars that will not save the planet no matter what anybody tells me , and similar developing wonderful health machinery , but something as simple as providing a safe environment for health staff is virtually the same as Ms Nightingale had ? 🤔

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4 hours ago, Dave T said:

The Scottish CMO confirmed (yesterday) it is fine to drive to a place for exercise, with the First Minister stating this should be somewhere close to home. 

The fact that a couple of police forces have knocked up a leaflet may help them to manage people, but it is not official. 

So business as usual in Scotland. All you need to do is wear a tacksuit and trainers, like a shield to avoid any restrictions you don't feel like complying with. 

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27 minutes ago, Dave T said:

 

Yes, definitely don't want to come across as racist :kolobok_biggrin:

I've raised this before when initislly lots of people were arriving at Heathrow etc. Tourists and so on. I adek on here if anyone knew what was being done to communicate advice and rules to people who neither read nor spoke English. 

Are there no such people or does everyone speak and read English? 

Why is that appearing to be racist? 

 


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1 minute ago, JohnM said:

I've raised this before when initislly lots of people were arriving at Heathrow etc. Tourists and so on. I adek on here if anyone knew what was being done to communicate advice and rules to people who neither read nor spoke English. 

Are there no such people or does everyone speak and read English? 

Why is that appearing to be racist? 

 

Mate, I arrived in Gatwick and there was hardly anything even in English.

There have been other language versions of some of the material - I think that was started by the Mayor of London’s office.

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Paper masks work, because they blow out from the sides, thus preventing infection from/to the front, which is where you are likely to get it from, straight forward glasses also help, as long as the cover your eyes completely


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Just now, Bleep1673 said:

Paper masks work, because they blow out from the sides, thus preventing infection from/to the front, which is where you are likely to get it from, straight forward glasses also help, as long as the cover your eyes completely

Indeed.

They are primarily to protect the environment from the wearer rather thanvice-versa.


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