gingerjon Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 Academy to cease operations because of reasons https://widnesvikings.co.uk/widnes-vikings-academy-announcement/ Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Future is League Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 1 minute ago, gingerjon said: Academy to cease operations because of reasons https://widnesvikings.co.uk/widnes-vikings-academy-announcement/ Shocking news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotchy1 Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 Disappointing. From that it seems the great contraction is happening at youth level too which is not good for the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 Really ###### me off this. I thought we had better aspirations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 I'd like to know how much of a factor this is or if it is just being used as an excuse: Current Academy licenses across the sport are due to expire at the end of 2021, and it has been indicated that Super League membership and the ability to draw players from non-heartland areas will be integral to successful reapplication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotchy1 Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 Just now, Damien said: I'd like to know how much of a factor this is or if it is just being used as an excuse: Current Academy licenses across the sport are due to expire at the end of 2021, and it has been indicated that Super League membership and the ability to draw players from non-heartland areas will be integral to successful reapplication. It looks like they saw the writing on the wall and it is probably both a factor and an excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted December 18, 2020 Author Share Posted December 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Scotchy1 said: It looks like they saw the writing on the wall and it is probably both a factor and an excuse. It reads more like an excuse than anything else to me. Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotchy1 Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 Just now, gingerjon said: It reads more like an excuse than anything else to me. It reads to me like they saw it would be more difficult to get the cat 1 license so didn't bother trying. I harsh as it sounds, there is a question of why should they bother? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Tonks Sidestep Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 They were debating whether to carry on with the Academy at the end of 2019/start of 2020 although I didn't see the outcome - which could well be this decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, gingerjon said: It reads more like an excuse than anything else to me. We’ve previously took over running Cumbria Regional Academy to this. It’s shocking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Spidey said: We’ve previously took over running Cumbria Regional Academy to this. It’s shocking Took over ?? stripped & discarded more like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DI Keith Fowler Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 Massively concerning, I don't think the club would drop the academy without having no option in the matter. I can only imagine the club is not in a good financial state. I was born to run a club like this. Number 1, I do not spook easily, and those who think I do, are wasting their time, with their surprise attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxford Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 I think it's easy to be hard on decisions like this one, the club needs sufficient funds for this to be viable. When we say it might be they've seen the writing on the wall and funding decreasing means a choice between a competitive first team or an academy side. They be part of a growing and exclusive club in that fashion. 2 warning points Non-Political Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 25 minutes ago, Damien said: I'd like to know how much of a factor this is or if it is just being used as an excuse: Current Academy licenses across the sport are due to expire at the end of 2021, and it has been indicated that Super League membership and the ability to draw players from non-heartland areas will be integral to successful reapplication. Hey maybe the people writing the rules have listened to me! You can't run an academy based on only players on your doorstep! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DI Keith Fowler Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 It's very disheartening. It's years of work that you can't just flick a switch and get back if they decided to restart in future. I think the academy should be the last thing to cut, I'd rather see a bottom half 1st team right now if it meant we had the potential of youngsters coming through. I was born to run a club like this. Number 1, I do not spook easily, and those who think I do, are wasting their time, with their surprise attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man of Kent Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 34 minutes ago, Damien said: I'd like to know how much of a factor this is or if it is just being used as an excuse: Current Academy licenses across the sport are due to expire at the end of 2021, and it has been indicated that Super League membership and the ability to draw players from non-heartland areas will be integral to successful reapplication. Interesting. Another clue that licensing is coming back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotchy1 Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 12 minutes ago, Tommygilf said: Hey maybe the people writing the rules have listened to me! You can't run an academy based on only players on your doorstep! I've said many times before there is no necessity for us to only have academies where your club is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moove Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 Would it not be an opportunity for some outside the box thinking where perhaps a few clubs come together to share costs and operate a top tier academy between them? Thinking the likes of Leigh, North Wales etc. Would be a shame to lose the expertise and pathways for players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iffleyox Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, Man of Kent said: Interesting. Another clue that licensing is coming back? only if they're going to make it a pre-condition that all SL clubs have got academies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hela Wigmen Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 That reasoning is bonkers. It’s going to do more harm than good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man of Kent Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 1 minute ago, iffleyox said: only if they're going to make it a pre-condition that all SL clubs have got academies... Which current clubs don't have one? Leigh and Salford? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cumbrian Fanatic Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 9 minutes ago, Moove said: Would it not be an opportunity for some outside the box thinking where perhaps a few clubs come together to share costs and operate a top tier academy between them? Thinking the likes of Leigh, North Wales etc. Would be a shame to lose the expertise and pathways for players. Didn't Hull FC and Hull KR try that? 100% League 0% Union Just because I don't know doesn't mean I don't understand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moove Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Cumbrian Fanatic said: Didn't Hull FC and Hull KR try that? Yeah, not sure of the reasons why it didn't work out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulwalker71 Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 If a criteria is around the ability to attract players from non-heartland areas, then why not have an Academy based in North Wales? Widnes would actually be just about the best placed club, geographically, to do that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hela Wigmen Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 If the governing body/bodies wants to see more players from further away picked up by clubs, what are they going to do about it? I’ve no problem with the idea in theory but if that’s what they want to measure clubs on, are they going to help this at all? Are they going to employ development coaches? Hold regional academies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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