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6 hours ago, Devon Ram said:

 

Once again somebody knocking the attendance my understanding is a few stadiums have sold very well, so if you know different lets see the facts or are you just a knocker for the sake of knocking show the facts or shut up.

I think you’ve misunderstood my post. I’m not criticising the way the way the WC is being marketed right now, I’m arguing that the withdrawal of the other two ‘main’ nations will make it harder to market as a top event and therefore could result in mainly empty stadia due to less of a ‘buzz’ in the media over what should be a nationally celebrated event. I thought that would have been clear in my post, but if not then apologies.

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6 hours ago, Damien said:

It's a long time since I saw RL on the back page of the newspapers:

 

Let’s hope that the backlash does result in overturning the decision. What great free publicity we will have had from it all 🙏

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6 hours ago, Damien said:

It's a long time since I saw RL on the back page of the newspapers:

 

There’s the old saying any publicity is good publicity, and I’ve never seen Rugby League in as much media with as much time and prominence as this World Cup story. We need to get the message out quickly that the tournament going ahead, tickets are on sale and they are to be replaced by Australian Invitational and New Zealand Invitational sides and ride this publicity wave.

 

Imagine if it was all a hoax just to get the publicity, like boxers have a bit of a pre fight bust up, and Australia and New Zealand actually have every intention of playing. Genius marketing at no cost.

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8 minutes ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said:

Imagine if it was all a hoax just to get the publicity, like boxers have a bit of a pre fight bust up, and Australia and New Zealand actually have every intention of playing. Genius marketing at no cost.

Do you still believe that a fat man in a red suit brings you presents at Christmas?

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2 hours ago, AB90 said:

To be fair to that Metro rating, the NRL games are shown live by 2 different broadcasters at the same time (channel 9 & fox sports). So the audience is split. 

Not saying if you add the Fox audience ratings it would more. Just making the point  that it doesn’t paint the full picture.

When I`m putting a pro-NRL case on other threads I always stress the Foxtel ratings over FTA, since they give the most positive indication of RL`s popularity, particularly in relation to fans` willingness to pay to watch the game.

However, with Pay TV there is inevitably a strong element of preaching to the converted. For RL to be future-proofed, it needs to rate well on FTA.

With WCs and Olympics, there`s now every likelihood of an Aussie men`s or women`s team competing in a major Soccer tournament in most years, usually played during the Southern Hemisphere winter. It`s clear from the FTA ratings that national teams playing in prestigious global events captures the public imagination throughout the country.

The potential nightmare scenario for the NRL is that AFL dominates the domestic scene, Soccer and RU dominate the international scene, and NRL dominates neither and gets progressively squeezed.

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8 hours ago, GeordieSaint said:

I noticed a couple of you talking about 1895 2.0. I absolutely get the sentiment. But what can we actually achieve from a Northern Hemisphere perspective?

We’ve thrown away North America (rightly or wrongly). Our own clubs in England are just as bad as those in the NRL at times. There’s no money in the development pot (due to no WC) to throw at France or someone else. 

Slightly stumped for (realistic) options… 

It's also a question of what would be schisming from?

Playing a version of rugby under different rules from those used elsewhere? No representative contact between the countries?

So just what we have now and are trying to correct?

The AFL hoovers up players from GAA. Players move between league and union. Nothing will change that.

A 'breakaway' is absolutely meaningless.

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11 minutes ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said:

Imagine if it was all a hoax just to get the publicity, like boxers have a bit of a pre fight bust up, and Australia and New Zealand actually have every intention of playing. Genius marketing at no cost.

In our case, it`s more like someone setting fire to himself to raise awareness for a cause. Needs someone else to quickly douse the flames.

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10 minutes ago, GeordieSaint said:

Weak statement.

As they’ve not been involved (or so it seems) with any discussions so far. I expect they’ll speak with the organisers, get the reassurances over covid protocol then come out a bit stronger. 
 

 

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The RLPA gets its funding from the NRL, so I wouldn't hold my breath for too much from them. A bit of lip service re supporting the event and perhaps not getting in the way of players who do want to travel over is the best we'll get.

"Just as we had been Cathars, we were treizistes, men apart."

Jean Roque, Calendrier-revue du Racing-Club Albigeois, 1958-1959

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1 hour ago, The Rocket said:

Yes that adds another 240 000 on Foxtel ( pay TV ) plus the other ~270 000 that Foxtel streaming service Kayo averages per match, so we are talking about a total viewing audience of nearly 900 000.

Regardless of that, as Pedant says, any sport that can supplement its local competition with quality international fixtures is going to be at an advantage in the long-term.

Soccers` great disadvantage in this country is that the local League is woeful, and I`m not saying that to be spiteful, they struggle to put three passes together, this is why the match of the week averages about 50 000 on FTA and the rest about 10 000 on Pay TV.

If soccer in this country can eventually tap into the growing rivalries with some Asian nations at a club competition level, and stop losing any player with the remotest bit of talent to wealthier foreign soccer leagues, and that includes just about every competition in the world, local soccer could become the juggernaut it is just about everywhere else. In fact I have read several times over the years it is soccer the afl fears not League.

All built on the back of a strong international presence.

n.b. one thing the local players do do exceptionally well and on a par with their EPL counterparts is the after goal celebrations. They mightn`t score many, and half of them might be rebounds or own goals, but boy when they jag one, they certainly know all the antics, world class in fact.

916,000 was the viewing numbers that the Matildas twitter feed put out following their win over New Zealand.

And then the men go out and beat Argentina.

People notice stuff like that.

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Having digested a load of official and unofficial comment online over the past 24 hours, I think that the IRL should push the following:

- it is not possible to 'delay' or 'postpone' the 2021 RLWC; moving it means cancellation followed by the organisation of a(n almost) new event - shut down anyone using the phrase 'postpone for 12 months' and use the phrase 'cancel the 2021 RLWC'

- ARLC, NZRL, Gus Gould, and other sympathisers have conspicuously failed to mention the women's and wheelchair RLWCs - shame them about it

- keep pushing Simon Johnson forward

 

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5 minutes ago, Archie Gordon said:

- ARLC, NZRL, Gus Gould, and other sympathisers have conspicuously failed to mention the women's and wheelchair RLWCs - shame them about it

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6 minutes ago, Archie Gordon said:

Having digested a load of official and unofficial comment online over the past 24 hours, I think that the IRL should push the following:

- it is not possible to 'delay' or 'postpone' the 2021 RLWC; moving it means cancellation followed by the organisation of a(n almost) new event - shut down anyone using the phrase 'postpone for 12 months' and use the phrase 'cancel the 2021 RLWC'

- ARLC, NZRL, Gus Gould, and other sympathisers have conspicuously failed to mention the women's and wheelchair RLWCs - shame them about it

- keep pushing Simon Johnson forward

 

Phil Gould does not care one bit about the women’s game or the wheelchair game, he cares about SOO first then the NRL everything else is irrelevant in his mind

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So is the idea of Europe based Aus/NZ teams being mooted/considered? 

Fox League's coverage about the WC is very limited and seems to be very much in agreement to pulling out. I guess like Russia TV news it is controlled/manipulated by the higher power 

Once again Aussie tw*ts

I know the Aussies on here are angry but are the league fans dien there angry or are they basically like the Fox news commentators? 

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10 hours ago, Chrispmartha said:

 

The bag of wind opens his laptop again!

There are people who have been shielding (not in a luxury hotel) for 18 months... not a few months here or there.. they haven't seen new born family members, not been to sick and dieing relatives and all the while losing money because they cannot work, not earning millions.. 

There are people who, while not being in a bubble, have lost their jobs, their businesses, chunks of family etc etc

This sort of thing is a celebration that that no longer needs to happen.. and they can get back to normal and be in the stands watching the game they love. Something that has kept them going.. 

If they players didn't actually want to come then fine that's on them and I'd be disappointed but I'd potentially understand it.. but by the looks of everything we are now seeing they want to bloody play!!! Let them play you sanctimonious wind bag... the clubs and the nrl rely on the people they are sticking 2 fingers up to... its an absolute joke. 

Play on RLWC and tell the aussies and kiwis (especially the kiwis.. 20 peices of silver) to sod off if they come wanting a "lucrative" tour

 

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Just now, theswanmcr said:

Where is this mentioned (I can’t find anything online). If that happens then that really is curtains for the World Cup.

I expect the Aussies will be working hard behind the scenes to get this cancelled/delayed 

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