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Expected to lose $45m. That’s some drop. 

Probably the right decision all things considered. It will be interesting to see if it goes ahead and whether V’landys himself makes it to 2024 in the role. 

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If it doesn't directly benefit the existing sixteen clubs they won't do anything to grow the sport.

There is probably not much more poisonous to the growth of Rugby League than the self interest of NRL clubs. 

Despite most of them being propped up on profits from the broken lives of gamblers and alcoholics they still want all the money, all the time.

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4 minutes ago, M j M said:

If it doesn't directly benefit the existing sixteen clubs they won't do anything to grow the sport.

There is probably not much more poisonous to the growth of Rugby League than the self interest of NRL clubs. 

Despite most of them being propped up on profits from the broken lives of gamblers and alcoholics they still want all the money, all the time.

Your last sentence is a bit harsh but certainly your first two are on the money.

You might laugh but this for me is the NRL equivalent of what`s going on with the WC. An absolute disaster of the first order.

The clubs through their increased power on the commission are pushing for a bond from any new entrant. While this might have legs if growth potential was saturated we are a long way from that. League in Qld is under direct threat from the fumbleball game. We need to saturate that market post-haste.

This is where I think our clubs have a lot in common with your own. Rather than in a situation where when times were relatively good vis-a-vis broadcast deals each club sacrificing a small amount of their club grant to spend on the big picture, no, they want every last cent so they can spend it on player salaries, not thinking of course if each club sacrificed the same amount then the playing field would still be level.

I find this announcement of delay totally disillusioning, why in our sport are we never able to sacrifice for the bigger picture. Too many dung heaps, too many bantam roosters.

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Turns out shouting gets you a reduced TV deal and no expansion.

And an end to internationals.

Great guy this. We really need someone like him over here.

 

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26 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

Turns out shouting gets you a reduced TV deal and no expansion.

And an end to internationals.

Great guy this. We really need someone like him over here.

 

Maybe they need Eddie Hearn ?

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Just now, DavidM said:

Maybe they need Eddie Hearn ?

I think we need to start a 20 page thread explaining why they need to become RFL Australia.

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20 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

I think we need to start a 20 page thread explaining why they need to become RFL Australia.

My money's on Northern Rugby Football Union (South).

 

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1 hour ago, The Rocket said:

Your last sentence is a bit harsh but certainly your first two are on the money.

You might laugh but this for me is the NRL equivalent of what`s going on with the WC. An absolute disaster of the first order.

The clubs through their increased power on the commission are pushing for a bond from any new entrant. While this might have legs if growth potential was saturated we are a long way from that. League in Qld is under direct threat from the fumbleball game. We need to saturate that market post-haste.

This is where I think our clubs have a lot in common with your own. Rather than in a situation where when times were relatively good vis-a-vis broadcast deals each club sacrificing a small amount of their club grant to spend on the big picture, no, they want every last cent so they can spend it on player salaries, not thinking of course if each club sacrificed the same amount then the playing field would still be level.

I find this announcement of delay totally disillusioning, why in our sport are we never able to sacrifice for the bigger picture. Too many dung heaps, too many bantam roosters.

Walk into a leagues club and see if you still disagree with his third statement. 

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10 minutes ago, dealwithit said:

It’s really not. The gambling industry in Australia is disgusting. 

It really is. It’s always nice to visit the UK where gambling has a lower profile. Yes, that’s really true. It’s insane in Australia.

In 2017, the average amount gambled per year by people 18 and over was over $12,000 per person. That’s roughly £6,349.

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18 minutes ago, dealwithit said:

Walk into a leagues club and see if you still disagree with his third statement. 

I `ve walked into a lot of League`s Clubs don`t worry about that. The vast, and I say vast majority of punters put a few bob through the pokies for a bit of fun. Never done it myself and in fact never gambled, for me it`s for mugs, but a lot of people like to and don`t go silly.

Now there is no denying there is an element that go too far, and a lot more could have been done about that. I had an uncle, fine upstanding bloke, played lower grades for North Sydney, every couple of years he would get the bug and go on a binge at the Local Leagues club, sometimes for three days till he was broke, it was hard to fathom, I can remember the degrading scene when him and my auntie would come to our house looking to borrow money from my parents cause my uncle had lost all his wages. Terrible business, its an addiction, and I don`t ever remember the Clubs trying to stop him. Funny thing was it was other punters or people who saw his parked out the front of the club that would alert us. So yeah mate, Australians like to gamble, and many too much for what they can afford, but there has been restrictions put in place, and there should be more to help those people who can`t help themselves.

BTW I reckon getting rid of the one-dollar poker machines would be a good move, let people get their gambling fix on 10 cent machines, you`d lose less once you got it out of your system. 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, M j M said:

If it doesn't directly benefit the existing sixteen clubs they won't do anything to grow the sport.

There is probably not much more poisonous to the growth of Rugby League than the self interest of NRL clubs. 

For sixteen read 11.

For NRL read Super League.

Its like the pot calling the kettle black (on a smaller scale!!)

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7 minutes ago, Magic XIII said:

For sixteen read 11.

For NRL read Super League.

Its like the pot calling the kettle black (on a smaller scale!!)

Yes. That is literally the point.

For the past few years there has been a growing belief - in defiance of reality - that the money losing, TV rights diminishing, expansion ending NRL was a progressive movement in rugby league.

Thankfully no one believes that now.

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8 minutes ago, Magic XIII said:

For sixteen read 11.

For NRL read Super League.

Its like the pot calling the kettle black (on a smaller scale!!)

Absolutely, although the UK clubs can have less of a disastrous impact due to scale.

But in all areas, the game desperately needs strong governing bodies who make important game-wide decisions that clubs may not like but have to accept.

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1 hour ago, Copa said:

It really is. It’s always nice to visit the UK where gambling has a lower profile. Yes, that’s really true. It’s insane in Australia.

In 2017, the average amount gambled per year by people 18 and over was over $12,000 per person. That’s roughly £6,349.

I was taken aback when I visited some of the leagues clubs, they seemed like a Vegas casino floor with the number of machines on them. Some weren’t even 1st grade clubs 😳

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1 hour ago, Copa said:

It really is. It’s always nice to visit the UK where gambling has a lower profile. Yes, that’s really true. It’s insane in Australia.

In 2017, the average amount gambled per year by people 18 and over was over $12,000 per person. That’s roughly £6,349.

Sounds like my Saturday morning 15 team acca.

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