Jump to content

Sun 10 Oct: MPG: Toulouse Olympique v Featherstone Rovers KO 18:00 (Sky)


Who will win?  

133 members have voted

  1. 1. Who will win?

    • Toulouse Olympique by 13 points or more
      45
    • Toulouse Olympique by 7 to 12 points
      35
    • Toulouse Olympique by 1 to 6 points
      10
    • Featherstone Rovers by 1 to 6 points
      13
    • Featherstone Rovers by 7 to 12 points
      25
    • Featherstone Rovers by 13 points or more
      5

This poll is closed to new votes

  • Please sign in or register to vote in this poll.
  • Poll closed on 10/10/21 at 17:30

Recommended Posts

5 hours ago, Scubby said:

Wigan v Leigh derby drew 9.2k, Wigan v Catalans drew 12.8k

Away fans are only important if the home fans don't give the game a swerve because they are easy beats. It is a myth that clubs bringing 500 fans swells attendances. If they are struggling clubs home fans often take a game off and save some cash.

The interest for fans mainly lies in big games, hence why Featherstone's biggest home attendance was Toulouse and not Halifax or Bradford.

Let's take a better example. A local game against a similarly successful side to Catalans and compare.

Wigan v St Helens attendance was 16,390.

There were 3,000 away fans. So clearly this was the difference and swelled the attendance accordingly. 

I think where your argument falls down is that the clubs that tend to take most away fans are usually the most successful. Leeds, St Helens, Wigan, Warrington, The Hull clubs. None of these are games that a fan would swerve either. 

Toronto were an exception as they could attract a lot of neutral fans so the gates were higher than usual. 

I understand your point and I am not being critical as I  support a club that hasn't a high number of away fans. But economically they obviously increase the attendance and gate receipts.

 

  • Like 3
  • Confused 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites


Good luck to both teams. Whatever the result I hope people who claim to love our sport will cease talking Fev down with sneering comments. They're a well run club which has improved it's ground and is at the heart of its community. If you think we should have a SL made up of big city clubs or lots of foreign teams that's fine. I happen to agree that Toulouse in SL would be good for the game as a whole and has potentially bigger benefits than Fev going up but we don't need to put Fev down to make that point.

  • Like 20
  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Colin James said:

Good luck to both teams. Whatever the result I hope people who claim to love our sport will cease talking Fev down with sneering comments. They're a well run club which has improved it's ground and is at the heart of its community. If you think we should have a SL made up of big city clubs or lots of foreign teams that's fine. I happen to agree that Toulouse in SL would be good for the game as a whole and has potentially bigger benefits than Fev going up but we don't need to put Fev down to make that point.

Very well put Colin.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

7 hours ago, Niels said:

Let's take a better example. A local game against a similarly successful side to Catalans and compare.

Wigan v St Helens attendance was 16,390.

There were 3,000 away fans. So clearly this was the difference and swelled the attendance accordingly. 

I think where your argument falls down is that the clubs that tend to take most away fans are usually the most successful. Leeds, St Helens, Wigan, Warrington, The Hull clubs. None of these are games that a fan would swerve either. 

Toronto were an exception as they could attract a lot of neutral fans so the gates were higher than usual. 

I understand your point and I am not being critical as I  support a club that hasn't a high number of away fans. But economically they obviously increase the attendance and gate receipts.

 

Unfortunately, as with most contentious discussions around expansion, people go to extremes, to the point where away fans are almost seen as a negative and any talk of them is seen as being a backward flat capper. 

In reality, we should do all we can to attract away fans, and if you can average 1k a match of these, that is the equivalent of an extra game or two (or three for some clubs). It is a not-insignificant amount of ticket sales. 

But, at the same time, it shouldn't be given undue prominence financially. 

Away fans are important as part of the match day experience for me, the atmosphere at a Wire v Salford game is far better than a Wire v Catalans game, even when the latter has a bigger crowd. We shouldn't see that as a negative. 

But as I say, it is a factor and not the most important, so whilst Catalans don't bring away fans, they tick most other boxes by far. But I think we need to be careful of watering down the league to a point where we lose atmosphere - which is something that attracts many people and is somethingbthey have been brought up on. Local derbies are generally seen as attractive good things for a reason. 

Thankfully, we are some way off 'excluding' away fans, and long may that continue. 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

9 hours ago, Niels said:

Let's take a better example. A local game against a similarly successful side to Catalans and compare.

Wigan v St Helens attendance was 16,390.

There were 3,000 away fans. So clearly this was the difference and swelled the attendance accordingly. 

I think where your argument falls down is that the clubs that tend to take most away fans are usually the most successful. Leeds, St Helens, Wigan, Warrington, The Hull clubs. None of these are games that a fan would swerve either. 

Toronto were an exception as they could attract a lot of neutral fans so the gates were higher than usual. 

I understand your point and I am not being critical as I  support a club that hasn't a high number of away fans. But economically they obviously increase the attendance and gate receipts.

 

My point was the interest is mainly for big games so when Wigan or Saints play a Leigh, Fev, Wakefield, Salford, Huddersfield etc. The drop of of 1-2k home fans who give this game the swerve because of lowly opposition is not negated by the 300-500 fans from the lowly opposition who think they are 'swelling' the home team's coffers.

This is a general point but for someone who has watched the game for a few decades now it almost certainly is a myth of an argument from those newly promoted clubs. Look at the attendances when Doncaster were promoted in 1994 for example. 27 years later it is no different.

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

30 minutes ago, Scubby said:

My point was the interest is mainly for big games so when Wigan or Saints play a Leigh, Fev, Wakefield, Salford, Huddersfield etc. The drop of of 1-2k home fans who give this game the swerve because of lowly opposition is not negated by the 300-500 fans from the lowly opposition who think they are 'swelling' the home team's coffers.

This is a general point but for someone who has watched the game for a few decades now it almost certainly is a myth of an argument from those newly promoted clubs. Look at the attendances when Doncaster were promoted in 1994 for example. 27 years later it is no different.

That's a wounding example, as of course it was Batley v Doncaster to decide who was promoted.😊

I still think Batley will win when I watch it on You Tube😓

  • Like 1
  • Haha 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

6 hours ago, Colin James said:

Good luck to both teams. Whatever the result I hope people who claim to love our sport will cease talking Fev down with sneering comments. They're a well run club which has improved it's ground and is at the heart of its community. If you think we should have a SL made up of big city clubs or lots of foreign teams that's fine. I happen to agree that Toulouse in SL would be good for the game as a whole and has potentially bigger benefits than Fev going up but we don't need to put Fev down to make that point.

Well said Colin. You are 100% correct.

The important thing here is that the winner goes up. Doesn't really matter who it is or where they are based. It's a sporting contest.

Obviously I hope it's Fev. 

  • Like 5
Link to comment
Share on other sites

18 hours ago, WakefieldCityLoyal said:

Don’t know enough about Fev or Cas to comment on them but the Wakefield Trinity Foundation do brilliant work within the City and district.  
 

Up the Trin 

they did brilliant stealth work when they pinched selby warriors ladies team

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

15 minutes ago, bigbaldnmad said:

Starting to get giddy now, flying out tomorrow. Really looking forward to a good, close game.

Like I have said earlier, Fev by 8.

Go on.... #### off and have a good time why don't you.....🤣

I'm proper ar sey cos I'm not going.

  • Like 2
  • Haha 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

24 minutes ago, Cardypaul said:

Yeah and that’s my brother going without me!!!! Family eh😂😂

Poor do that cocker 🤣. I've been in a reight mornge since I finally made the decision to decline to travel. Proper got blonks on

Edited by Robin Evans
Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 minutes ago, Robin Evans said:

Poor do that cocker 🤣. I've been in a reight mornge since I finally made the decision to decline to travel. Proper got blonks on

Look on the brightside Robin, you can go out with your mates to celebrate post game, get piffed up, then have the comfort of sleeping in your own bed as long as you want to.👍

Link to comment
Share on other sites

7 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

Look on the brightside Robin, you can go out with your mates to celebrate post game, get piffed up, then have the comfort of sleeping in your own bed as long as you want to.👍

Should featherstone win, I have the choice of a 6yr old Paulliac or a 12 Yr old cask strength clynelish to open. I've booked Monday off in anticipation.😊

  • Like 1
  • Haha 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, Cardypaul said:

Yeah and that’s my brother going without me!!!! Family eh😂😂

I did tell you I was going before I booked it, I assumed if you wanted to come you would have said.

Anyway, I will bring thee a stick of rock back....

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, Robin Evans said:

Poor do that cocker 🤣. I've been in a reight mornge since I finally made the decision to decline to travel. Proper got blonks on

Give Luke Cooper a call, maybe get his ticket! 

  • Haha 1

2008 RFL Wakefield & District Young Volunteer of the Year

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Confirmed that Fev forward Luke Cooper is not able to travel to the game as he didn't get his passport renewed on time. 

I have no idea how important he is to the Featherstone team and whether he would have played 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, The Daddy said:

Confirmed that Fev forward Luke Cooper is not able to travel to the game as he didn't get his passport renewed on time. 

I have no idea how important he is to the Featherstone team and whether he would have played 

Deary me.

Edited by Lowdesert
Link to comment
Share on other sites

9 minutes ago, The Daddy said:

Confirmed that Fev forward Luke Cooper is not able to travel to the game as he didn't get his passport renewed on time. 

I have no idea how important he is to the Featherstone team and whether he would have played 

Big loss. Not the biggest middle, but a ferocious tackler and he’s chief energy officer.

it’s like having a fan on the pitch.

Proper nice bloke too. Gutted for him.

  • Thanks 1
  • Sad 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

20 minutes ago, Lowdesert said:

Deary me.

That was my initial thought. At first I thought it was a prank. 

This match is for the right to be in SL with so much at stake, given that there's a French team.in the Championship you would think that all players would have their passports sorted. 

And what was the Featherstone leadership saying a few weeks ago that their players were ready and willing to play Toulouse in France  so it turns out they wasn't? 

Edited by The Daddy
  • Like 2
  • Haha 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I say let's give France A chance! But I hope Fev win, although I'll miss our away day for a season...

  • Haha 1

Touch Rugby W(h)inger and part-time Super Hero (Thursday mornings by appointment) :superman:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

BATLEY BULLDOGS RLFC :bb:

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.



×
×
  • Create New...