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Posted
2 hours ago, Damien said:

New coach boost, it often happens.

There's zero evidence of any great work behind the scenes.

Why would you be privy to know what goes on behind the scenes? 


Posted
1 minute ago, Loiner said:

Why would you be privy to know what goes on behind the scenes? 

I never said I was, I said there was no evidence of it. Great work behind the scenes is usually reflected in some way, I dont see anything at Leeds to believe that is the case. 

Results are poor, the team ethic looks poor and I not seen any evidence of the great work with youngsters or any structures getting better. The appointment of Blease shows the club realises that much behind the scenes is a shambles. Now I know it's vogue to try and blame Hetherington for everything, or at least it was when people were defending Smith,but a quality head coach has got a good handle on everything and makes real improvements. 

If you disagree that's fine.

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The Rowley speculation is interesting. I'm not as convinced as some fans of Leeds that it's some sort of done deal. On the other hand I'm less convinced than some Salford fans are that he would turn down one of the top jobs in the game. But people's motivations are different and we don't know for sure what Rowley's are.

Lam hopefully isn't on the shortlist, his record at a big club was frankly poor.

NRL head coaches coming to Super League have mixed record so they'll need to be very sure the coach has a decent grasp on  the British game and of what Leeds needs from the head coach.

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Posted
2 hours ago, Segovia Carpet said:

He is happy & content though with his long term situation with future opportunities as I stated above.  He lives in a super big house in Worsley which is family owned whereas maybe Mr Lam could be a better bet for the Rhinos in persuasive moves.  Blease could then walk the streets of Salford without worry.

He was very happy and content at Leigh, until he wasn’t, and that was for his hometown club that he has a real affinity for. If the opportunity is right he won’t hesitate, especially after having his best players sold from under him for years. His commute wouldn’t be any different to Croft, Ackers or Blease.

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17 minutes ago, LeytherRob said:

He was very happy and content at Leigh, until he wasn’t, and that was for his hometown club that he has a real affinity for. If the opportunity is right he won’t hesitate, especially after having his best players sold from under him for years. His commute wouldn’t be any different to Croft, Ackers or Blease.

If Blease offers Rowley the job he won’t turn it down IMO. The lure of being the coach that turns Leeds around would be too big for any ambitious coach again IMO

Im not convinced he’s the right person for the job though.

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Smith was another project signing from down under for Hetherington, most of them don't pay off but I think this one showed more potential than most. Grand final 22 and spectacular wins last season against much better teams after years of allowing the Rhinos squad to get weaker and weaker, and a spectacular crash at the end due to those squad issues. I always thought he said the right things about wider issues in the game and was excited to see a coach try different ways to win games, as the philosophy of there only being one way to win doesn't sit right with me.

Splashing the cash in the winter was required for Leeds, but the squad is still weaker than those challenging for trophies. Plenty to clear out, and they remain in a position where recruitment is harder, with no obvious prospect of prize money to pay the new players, and recent falling outs with players meaning they no longer have the strong loyalty culture to sell to new recruits either. Not an easy job for anyone coming in, unless the players suddenly realise they do know how to pick the right pass and play without so many errors.

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Hetherington must be aware that the next coach must get it something like successful other wise it's going to turn I to a poison chalice 

 Soon we will be dancing the fandango
FROM 2004,TO DO WHAT THIS CLUB HAS DONE,IF THATS NOT GREATNESSTHEN i DONT KNOW WHAT IS.

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Posted
6 hours ago, fieldofclothofgold said:

Hetherington must be aware that the next coach must get it something like successful other wise it's going to turn I to a poison chalice 

How much say will he have in the choice of the next Head coach with Blease now appearing to call the big shots?

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couldnt imagine someone like maurice bamford or peter fox ever taking a blind bit of notice of someone like blease or any other back room interference officer- lets get back to proper coaches who rule the team they manage and the players they went out and bought for themselves

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3 minutes ago, graveyard johnny said:

couldnt imagine someone like maurice bamford or peter fox ever taking a blind bit of notice of someone like blease or any other back room interference officer- lets get back to proper coaches who rule the team they manage and the players they went out and bought for themselves

Bamford or Fox didn't have oversight of the juniors, or women's sections, or salary caps, or incremental contracts, quota spots, marquee players, dispensations, and all the ancillary staff to go with that.

Professional organisations aren't a one man band anymore, they're too big for that.

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:

Bamford or Fox didn't have oversight of the juniors, or women's sections, or salary caps, or incremental contracts, quota spots, marquee players, dispensations, and all the ancillary staff to go with that.

Professional organisations aren't a one man band anymore, they're too big for that.

modern times I suppose - boring the turnstiles to a standstill - winning team - good players - exiting sport = big crowds, simple

see you later undertaker - in a while necrophile 

Posted
8 minutes ago, graveyard johnny said:

exiting sport = big crowds

Hang it in the Louvre.

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Posted
20 hours ago, Chrispmartha said:

If Blease offers Rowley the job he won’t turn it down IMO. The lure of being the coach that turns Leeds around would be too big for any ambitious coach again IMO

Im not convinced he’s the right person for the job though.

My confused emoji for the first paragraph not the second one.

Posted
2 hours ago, The Future is League said:

How much say will he have in the choice of the next Head coach with Blease now appearing to call the big shots?

Yes you're right I think I should have said he will be aware that Blease must get it right.  Blease has a big job on his hands it's not just the coach 

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 Soon we will be dancing the fandango
FROM 2004,TO DO WHAT THIS CLUB HAS DONE,IF THATS NOT GREATNESSTHEN i DONT KNOW WHAT IS.

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Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, graveyard johnny said:

couldnt imagine someone like maurice bamford or peter fox ever taking a blind bit of notice of someone like blease or any other back room interference officer- lets get back to proper coaches who rule the team they manage and the players they went out and bought for themselves

Yeah, Bamford bought Jimmy Birts as a kicker for Wigan, the bloke had seriously broken toe and couldn't kick the passing breeze. He was also less than perfect at everything else.

After that the board said no player gets signed solely on the coaches say so.

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Posted
3 hours ago, graveyard johnny said:

couldnt imagine someone like maurice bamford or peter fox ever taking a blind bit of notice of someone like blease or any other back room interference officer- lets get back to proper coaches who rule the team they manage and the players they went out and bought for themselves

It's an absurd world you seem to live in sometimes.

At many clubs Board Members took a much more direct role - that they were little qualified for - and interfering in Football matters in the era you are talking about.

Posted
14 minutes ago, M j M said:

It's an absurd world you seem to live in sometimes.

 

its better than this one though 🤩

see you later undertaker - in a while necrophile 

Posted
8 hours ago, Harry Stottle said:

Your confidence that if offered the job Rowley would accept it, do you not think that he has already been sounded out?

Officially, no. He said himself last night.

I stand by it, he’ll take it if offered the job. Why wouldn’t he?

Posted
1 hour ago, Chrispmartha said:

Officially, no. He said himself last night.

I stand by it, he’ll take it if offered the job. Why wouldn’t he?

Doesn't need the hassle Chris, and any amount of money offered is not required either.

Posted
21 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

Doesn't need the hassle Chris, and any amount of money offered is not required either.

Surely then quality of life and work environment are most important then?

Is the Salford job a bit too comfortable (for him in terms of pressure) and lacking ambition? Perhaps. Most involved in professional sports have ambition to be the best and achieve.

Posted
1 hour ago, Harry Stottle said:

Doesn't need the hassle Chris, and any amount of money offered is not required either.

We get it, Rowley has a nice house and some money already. You've said it repeatably everytime hes rumoured to move somewhere new.

I don't understand why you are so sure that Rowley has such little ambition as a coach to stay at the level he is at currently.

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