Futtocks Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 3 Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted. Ralph Waldo Emerson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Ted Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 A good player for Wigan as the above list proves. Thanks Matty and all the best for the future. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Future is League Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 13 minutes ago, Futtocks said: He had his detractors, but he never let England down when he played. He always had a good kicking game, possibly due to his soccer background 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh1 Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Always liked him as a player. Except when he scored that ludicrous drop goal after the hooter to win the game for Saints against Salford a few years back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number 16 Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Wow! Had to look at the date of this thread as I thought he went years ago! He was a pretty good player who had his moments and has the gongs to prove it. I suspect he'll have plenty to offer in a coaching role. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 I liked him at Wigan and he played an important role in the success the team had at that time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 A real good solid pro who had a great spell at Wigan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley30 Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Good solid scrum half who did a good job at Salford whenever I watched him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Futtocks Posted September 12, 2022 Author Share Posted September 12, 2022 A fine team player, who worked really well in combinations with other halves, rather than starring on his own. His partnership with Blake Green at Wigan was probably the peak in this respect. Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted. Ralph Waldo Emerson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris22 Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 A solid player who played for a lot of big teams and arguably achieved more than other players of his equivalent ability. That's probably testament to his professionalism and determination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DI Keith Fowler Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Every team needs someone who isn't flashy but improves everyone around them. He was just that to an elite level. He's generally gone well for Widnes in recent years albeit in a mediocre side. He's been asked to carry the game to the opposition on his own too many times which was never his game. With better players around him he would have been able to show his quality more. I was born to run a club like this. Number 1, I do not spook easily, and those who think I do, are wasting their time, with their surprise attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 3 hours ago, DI Keith Fowler said: Every team needs someone who isn't flashy but improves everyone around them. He was just that to an elite level. He's generally gone well for Widnes in recent years albeit in a mediocre side. He's been asked to carry the game to the opposition on his own too many times which was never his game. With better players around him he would have been able to show his quality more. To cap off his career he’ll have to do the naked run having not got a try this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Spidey said: To cap off his career he’ll have to do the naked run having not got a try this year That's always the important thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 On 12/09/2022 at 19:57, Futtocks said: Have to say (as well as congratulations to Matty Smith on his career of course), Wigan do these things particularly well. He last played for Wigan 6 years and 5 clubs ago but it was nice to see them recognise him. I think these things make a difference in the long run for a well run club. 2 "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The storm Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 I really appreciate the effort matty smith put in at widnes Really outstanding at times with the heart of a lion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Futtocks Posted September 14, 2022 Author Share Posted September 14, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Dunbar said: Have to say (as well as congratulations to Matty Smith on his career of course), Wigan do these things particularly well. He last played for Wigan 6 years and 5 clubs ago but it was nice to see them recognise him. I think these things make a difference in the long run for a well run club. They also Tweeted a Happy Birthday message today to both Denis Betts and Stuart Fielden. Their social media people are on the ball with the little touches, as usual. Edited September 14, 2022 by Futtocks 1 Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted. Ralph Waldo Emerson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnM Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 There is no doubt in my mind that he was an excellent player and club servant. For be be it for me, though, as someone who could hardly pass or kick a ball or make a tackle, to be critical, but he was somewhat inconsistent and a bit random with his grubber kicking. I wonder how he'll make a living now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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