Loiner Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 24 minutes ago, bobbruce said: If you aren’t selected in the squad games wouldn’t be counted. As they shouldn't be. All these bans should be served at club level at the start of the next super league season, not England games or any friendlys. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrispmartha Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Dave T said: No. 2 charges in the last 24m, with 1 of them. Being in theast 12m. Yes I see that now, im still unsure why Martins first grade A this season got a ban, can’t seem to remember him getting 2 previous bans - edited, someone on twitter pointed out he got banned twice last year!! Edited September 19, 2022 by Chrispmartha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 Just now, Loiner said: As they shouldn't be. All these bans should be served at club level at the start of the next super league season, not England games or any friendlys. I agree with this . NRL bans should be served in NRL games and SL bans should be served in SL games . And those clubs involved should be feeling that loss . 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbruce Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, Loiner said: As they shouldn't be. All these bans should be served at club level at the start of the next super league season, not England games or any friendlys. They should be but that isn’t the rules as it stands. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josef K Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 Knowles what a fool, his discipline has been shocking for the last few months. It wouldn’t bother me if the RFL increased his ban. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted September 19, 2022 Author Share Posted September 19, 2022 28 minutes ago, bobbruce said: It’s a still though and as you tackle the shoulder you are using you will put force through. It will always go in front or above during the tackle. Especially if you have someone lined up like Welsby clearly did. Having said that I wouldn’t know if that is frowned upon by the MRP or not. It's the kind of thing that the panel will consider though. If you are trying to claim you are trying to tackle low, but raise your arm/shoulder then it goes against you somewhat. I think they have come to a sensible position on this. It was foul play imo, but there was enough in it to support the claim that he made a genuine attempt at a legal tackle. But, it landed on the head and the recklessness was the issue 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilsontown Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 If Knowles is going to pull that kind of stuff do we actually want him playing for England? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbruce Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 1 minute ago, wilsontown said: If Knowles is going to pull that kind of stuff do we actually want him playing for England? I suppose we could swap him and Radley between bans. It might work out well. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spotty Herbert Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, wilsontown said: If Knowles is going to pull that kind of stuff do we actually want him playing for England? Who's your alternative? Radley is even dafter and Smithies is no better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yipyee Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 13 minutes ago, Spotty Herbert said: Who's your alternative? Radley is even dafter and Smithies is no better. Welsby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spotty Herbert Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, yipyee said: Welsby Seriously? As a middle forward? I was thinking of Cameron Smith, then told myself not to be daft. Welsby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loiner Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Does anybody think it's a little bit selfish for saints to appeal, I mean he's bang to rights he's not going to get the ban annulled and if it's increased its only going affect England not saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbruce Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, Loiner said: Does anybody think it's a little bit selfish for saints to appeal, I mean he's bang to rights he's not going to get the ban annulled and if it's increased its only going affect England not saints. Saints are just playing the system like everyone else would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, bobbruce said: Saints are just playing the system like everyone else would. Maybe but unless they seriously think it is going to be completely overturned, which I find really hard to believe will happen, then the only person that can suffer is Knowles himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbruce Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Just now, Damien said: Maybe but unless they seriously think it is going to be completely overturned, which I find really hard to believe will happen, then the only person that can suffer is Knowles himself. I’m sure they asked him if he wants to risk it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, bobbruce said: Saints are just playing the system like everyone else would. If it were trying to get one game down to zero then I would agree. But 2 down to 0 is very unlikely. I suppose Knowles must be OK with it. It will impact the first part of his international games this autumn but I guess he wants a Grand Final appearance and internationals. I can't see it happening though. It is not as if the actual incident was difficult to see and now the panel has decided on its severity I am not sure what else there is to argue about. "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, bobbruce said: I’m sure they asked him if he wants to risk it. Yes, I'm sure you are right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbruce Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 12 minutes ago, Dunbar said: If it were trying to get one game down to zero then I would agree. But 2 down to 0 is very unlikely. I suppose Knowles must be OK with it. It will impact the first part of his international games this autumn but I guess he wants a Grand Final appearance and internationals. I can't see it happening though. It is not as if the actual incident was difficult to see and now the panel has decided on its severity I am not sure what else there is to argue about. I don’t see them getting it to 0 now they’ve made their decision. It’s either they think they have a case to change the out come which I can’t see. Or it a nothing to lose shot in the dark plus a bit of a challenge to the RFL. Knowles at this point would probably do anything to play in the GF so to him it’s worth a punt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSaint Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 When is Bateman’s ban confirmed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted September 20, 2022 Author Share Posted September 20, 2022 Knowles has 5 charges in the last 12m, never mind the 24m measure. So even if they challenge the grading and it goes from B to A, he still has a 1 match ban. The only way is if a panel looks at that incident and decides it is NFA, which seems like a hell of a long shot! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, Dave T said: Knowles has 5 charges in the last 12m, never mind the 24m measure. So even if they challenge the grading and it goes from B to A, he still has a 1 match ban. The only way is if a panel looks at that incident and decides it is NFA, which seems like a hell of a long shot! Thats a lot, I never realised his record was that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeF Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 30 minutes ago, GeordieSaint said: When is Bateman’s ban confirmed? He will have a hearing presumably this evening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted September 20, 2022 Author Share Posted September 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Damien said: Thats a lot, I never realised his record was that bad. To clarify, the 5 didn't include this one. This one is number 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkw Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 The appeal for Knowles makes absolutely no sense unless they have irrefutable evidence/precedent, which I just cant see them having. Its almost as bad as the Leeds nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
my missus Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 whatever happens you can count on the rugby league doing the worst possible thing as far as the world cup goes. Through the fish-eyed lens of tear stained eyes I can barely define the shape of this moment in time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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