The Ghost of 99 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, bobbruce said: Saints claimed it was a professional foul but not foul play one would have a completely different out come. What did Newman appeal did he say he didn’t shout at the ref. Leeds have put a few ###### poor appeals in it doesn’t mean every unsuccessful appeal is now frivolous. Leeds' Newman appeal was based on what he did not having been something bans had been handed out for before. They provided voluminous comparable examples, but it was dismissed as frivolous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbruce Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Ghost of 99 said: Leeds' Newman appeal was based on what he did not having been something bans had been handed out for before. They provided voluminous comparable examples, but it was dismissed as frivolous. I give up. Ok the RFL have it in for Leeds. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josef K Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 33 minutes ago, bobbruce said: It might’ve been a case of trying to keep the player happy by doing everything possible to give him a chance. No matter how futile. I’m glad he didn’t get his ban reduced, i would’ve been embarrassed. I’ve not spoken to any Saints fan (so far) who have said “he shouldn’t have been suspended”. Id imagine there will be some on the cesspit that is Facemuck & Twits and other sites(if there are any) who will be saying “the RFL are corrupt”. But you will never change their views because everything is against their club. They go to a game thinking their side has been robbed even before KO, and leave the ground thinking the same. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ghost of 99 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, bobbruce said: I give up. Ok the RFL have it in for Leeds. Don't know if they do or don't but in the Newman example they challenged the grading citing similar examples. One thing we do know of this system, and it's frustratingly opaque, is that producing that sort of evidence to try to benchmark the gradings doesn't work and leads down the road to frivolity. Edited September 20, 2022 by The Ghost of 99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedfordshire Bronco Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 16 minutes ago, bobbruce said: I give up. Ok the RFL have it in for Leeds. Yes they do 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wholly Trinity Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 9 minutes ago, The Ghost of 99 said: Don't know if they do or don't but in the Newman example they challenged the grading citing similar examples. One thing we do know of this system, and it's frustratingly opaque, is that producing that sort of evidence to try to benchmark the gradings doesn't work and leads down the road to frivolity. Are you sure the cited examples were similar? If they weren't, it would be frivolous. Do you have a list of clubs found to have made frivolous appeals? I'm pretty sure Trinity haven't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yipyee Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 On 19/09/2022 at 21:57, Spotty Herbert said: Seriously? As a middle forward? I was thinking of Cameron Smith, then told myself not to be daft. Welsby? Came off the bench in the CC final last year at loose. Hes a big lad, hits hard and has good hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbruce Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 21 minutes ago, The Ghost of 99 said: Don't know if they do or don't but in the Newman example they challenged the grading citing similar examples. One thing we do know of this system, and it's frustratingly opaque, is that producing that sort of evidence to try to benchmark the gradings doesn't work and leads down the road to frivolity. The minutes will be there at the RFL go check it out. I’ve just checked the Reese Martyn one and it’s basically like I said. They even say there was no basis in law for the appeal and it was just basically a claim for clemency. That’s why it was deemed frivolous. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbruce Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 48 minutes ago, The Ghost of 99 said: Leeds' Newman appeal was based on what he did not having been something bans had been handed out for before. They provided voluminous comparable examples, but it was dismissed as frivolous. Can you give us these examples. I’ve just looked basically the appeal consisted of Newman telling them he’s a passionate player and Rohan Smith saying he uses his hands a lot when he talks. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loiner Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 11 hours ago, bobbruce said: I give up. Ok the RFL have it in for Leeds. Its done and dusted now, this thread should be put to bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnM Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 11 hours ago, bobbruce said: I give up. Ok the RFL have it in for Leeds. Trust me...not only the RFL. 2 “Bouncing on beds, I remember from childhood, is a great depression reliever.” ― Robert M. Pirsig, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 22 hours ago, Jughead said: It’s a real poor look from the ones who are handing out the punishment, The RFL, to then allow for loopholes to be exploited in such a way and not really a good look for England or the international game. We have some common ground on that Juggy, well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 15 hours ago, Damien said: Exactly what I said he'd get and results in minimal impact at the World Cup (in effect missing just one game). But should be 3. Obviously Bateman is an integral part of Wane's plan, God help us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Dockhouse Host Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 17 hours ago, Gomersall said: Is this the first unsuccessful non frivolous appeal of the season? No been plenty 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedford Roughyed Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Second appeal won. Free to play final.... With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moove Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Hold on to your hats ladies and gents, internet explosion imminent 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedford Roughyed Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 1 With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 This is all very reasonable and the response will also be very reasonable. 2 2 Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkw Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Let me just pull up a chair and get comfortable.... 3 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrispmartha Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 What an absolute joke. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 (edited) Well, well, well. I personally dont believe this would have happened if it wasn't the Grand Final. Edited September 22, 2022 by Damien 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympus Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Popcorn at the ready 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris22 Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 That's unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockingchair Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Seriously is there some kind of sepp blatter character pulling the strings in the background . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrispmartha Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Damien said: Well, well, well. I personally dont this would have happened if it wasn't the Grand Final. It shouldn’t happen at all - so, this new judiciary are saying the ref was wrong, the MRP panel was wrong and the appeal panel was wrong. The game really doesn’t help itself sometimes does it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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