Euros cancelled

[gingerjon]

Not sure I have the energy to care about this game for much longer

https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/european-championships-cancelled-as-international-calendar-left-in-tatters

[dealwithit]

Disappointing.
 Well will any of these teams now organise one off matches?

[RP London]

5 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

Not sure I have the energy to care about this game for much longer

https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/european-championships-cancelled-as-international-calendar-left-in-tatters

oh FFS!

[JohnM]

5 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

Not sure I have the energy to care about this game for much longer

https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/european-championships-cancelled-as-international-calendar-left-in-tatters

Perfectly understandable. The WC 2021 reignited my enthusiasm for the International game, only to be extinguished  (from a great height) by the Australian isolationism.  Reignited again, in 2022 only to be put out again by this. the French cancellation and the negativity and blame-gaming of some in Australia.

I'm going to the Magic Weekend , though, so will try to de-focus the International scene for the weekend. After that, who knows?

[The Hallucinating Goose]

That's it, I'm done with RL, gonna start following handball now. 

[Damien]

I don't see why a lack of international calendar or uncertainty is any reason to cancel the European Championships. They could easily proceed, as they have done various times before.

This game shoots itself in the foot time and again.

[gingerjon]

4 minutes ago, Damien said:

I don't see why a lack of international calendar or uncertainty is any reason to cancel the European Championships. They could easily proceed, as they have done various times before.

This game shoots itself in the foot time and again.

Reading the article, I *think* it's because it was dependent on a subsidy from IRL to cover costs - and that subsidy does not happen if it isn't a World Cup qualifying tournament.

Therefore, as they don't know whether it will be a World Cup qualifying tournament they don't feel able to proceed as (I suspect) neither they not the national federations have the money to pay for the tournament if there is no subsidy.

[Tommygilf]

1 minute ago, gingerjon said:

Reading the article, I *think* it's because it was dependent on a subsidy from IRL to cover costs - and that subsidy does not happen if it isn't a World Cup qualifying tournament.

Therefore, as they don't know whether it will be a World Cup qualifying tournament they don't feel able to proceed as (I suspect) neither they not the national federations have the money to pay for the tournament if there is no subsidy.

This feels accurate to me. However it is a shame that this is necessary.

[Damien]

5 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

Reading the article, I *think* it's because it was dependent on a subsidy from IRL to cover costs - and that subsidy does not happen if it isn't a World Cup qualifying tournament.

Therefore, as they don't know whether it will be a World Cup qualifying tournament they don't feel able to proceed as (I suspect) neither they not the national federations have the money to pay for the tournament if there is no subsidy.

I'm sure you are correct. It's real small time stuff though. If the like of Greece can organise matches against Serbia, and countless over similar level games, then surely the respective countries can still get this on.

I'd actually also go as far to say that if a country is at such a low level that it can't play games without funding then perhaps they shouldn't be in the World Cup anyway. Maybe that would be a good way to separate the wheat from the chaff too.

[gingerjon]

3 minutes ago, Damien said:

I'm sure you are correct. It's real small time stuff though. If the like of Greece can organise matches against Serbia, and countless over similar level games, then surely the respective countries can still get this on.

I'd actually also go as far to say that if a country is at such a low level that it can't play games without funding then perhaps they shouldn't be in the World Cup anyway. Maybe that would be a good way to separate the wheat from the chaff too.

It is small time stuff. It is indefensible, really, even with an understanding of the why.

It is the culmination of a long, long sequence of completely avoidable problems.

I'm sure someone will be along soon to blame rugby union in some way.

But this, like so much else, is entirely rugby league inflicting damage on rugby league.

[Gerrumonside ref]

Disappointed for loyal organisers, players and supporters of European Rugby League.

[JM2010]

We all wonder why RU is the bigger game worldwide 

[barnyia]

Spain are playing Exeter university 10 th June

[Odsal Outlaw]

Surely this could go ahead and still double up as WC qualifiers, every nation just needs to understand that the tournament will finish with a clear ranking of nations and the number to go to the WC is still TBC.

[arcticchris]

4 minutes ago, Odsal Outlaw said:

Surely this could go ahead and still double up as WC qualifiers, every nation just needs to understand that the tournament will finish with a clear ranking of nations and the number to go to the WC is still TBC.

Far too much like common sense for international rugby league 

[JM2010]

The only way the Euros, MEA and Americas are going to grow is if they can gather some momentum and be played every year regardless of WC qualification 

[ATLANTISMAN]

It's all about one thing MONEY there simply isn't any.

But hey hoe those that have put us in this embarrassing situation are now all nicely tucked up in their new positions.

 

[RP London]

1 hour ago, Odsal Outlaw said:

Surely this could go ahead and still double up as WC qualifiers, every nation just needs to understand that the tournament will finish with a clear ranking of nations and the number to go to the WC is still TBC.

Indeed common sense and is my massive FFS about this.. but I think @gingerjon is right in his reasoning for why it isn't..  and boy is that a sad state of affairs!

I like the idea if you cant afford this then you shouldnt be playing for the world cup but frankly i think that would leave us with northern hemisphere representation being england and france..  and, again, boy is that a sad state of affaira!!

Edited May 25, 2023 by RP London

[JohnM]

Here's good idea - possibly. The various RL bodies involved in the International, National and Club sport actually talk to each other using...you know...real words and images,  speaking and stuff, coordinating competition arrangements and cancellations, then agreeing a way forward in private and then and only then presenting a united front to the world.  

[sam4731]

2 hours ago, barnyia said:

Spain are playing Exeter university 10 th June

And there's always franchise rugby league  

[JonNgog]

An utter embarrassment - just can’t bring myself to care anymore.

[WelshpoolMarauder]

Out of interest, how much money does it take to put on an international game? 

Say, for example, Scotland put out an invitation to Wales for a game (which seems like probably the cheapest option as it could be done without flying). What sort of money would they need in order to make it happen?

I'm guessing it must be more than any of the organisations feel they can gamble, otherwise why aren't they already doing it? 

[lucky 7]

Despite this i will never give up on the game.

It's the game i was brought up with and the game of my father and his brothers and their father

 

 

[Llangennech]

can we please have England v Australia please. 

nobody else matters, at the moment. if other nations aren't bothered about RL, that's their problem. it's the IRL's responsibility to, you know what.

[Henson Park Old Firm]

I have a feeling we are going to have a 8 team WC