Beaumont has another tantrum, threatens to stop investing in Leigh

[Damien]

3 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

I don't know if it's the case for Super League, but the EPL has a 'spare' (fake) trophy they can roll out if they can't get the real trophy to a specific stadium in time should the trophy be in doubt until the final whistle.

Oh come on, what do you think? 

I do admire your optimism in even posing the question though.

[daz39]

Blimey, that's some dummy spit.

Of course those who think he's out of order will be jealous of him and Leigh and those defending him obviously haven't got the game at heart or at least that's how it usually works.

I think he's out of order personally and that is the kind of rant you'd see from a really annoyed fan on facebook or twitter, i would cringe if Mr Davy, who also puts lots of money into a SL club for no return, acted like that but yet Leigh fans seem to think by putting lots of money into his club gives him the right to speak like that!

I had hoped that a bit of success for his club and indeed recognition (and rightly so on the back of this year's outstanding efforts) would have calmed him down and made him a more responsible club owner, clearly not.

[Hull Kingston Bronco]

One other thought on Beaumont's childish diatribe: Did he think that the referee ridiculously awarding the Hardaker try in the Challenge Cup Semi Final was similarly damaging to the game's investment attractiveness, and if so will he be voluntarily handing back the Challenge Cup Trophy this week? 

I'm all for a Hull KR versus St Helens rerunning of the final. Let's make the arrangements. I mean, for Derek it's all about maintaining the integrity of the competitions right? It's not just him having a strop when Leigh lose or anything infantile like that. 

 

Edited September 27, 2023 by Hull Kingston Bronco
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[Jim Prendle]

15 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

And I will repeat had according to the vast majority of observers that try should have stood Wigan would be 3rd.

But it didn’t, did it?

You are also assuming I care about the “Vast majority of observers”, which I don’t.

I consider myself far too mature to keep banging on about supposed injustices against my team whereas you lot look more like children with every passing hour.

Please carry on though, it’s hilarious.

[Hull Kingston Bronco]

22 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

And I will repeat had according to the vast majority of observers that try should have stood Wigan would be 3rd.

We don't know anything of the sort. There were 20 minutes to go, who knows what would have happened if that Leigh try would have counted. The only thing we do know if is that the remaining time wouldn't have played out in the same way, as the dynamic would clearly have been different.

Regardless though, the whole idea that Leigh finished 5th because of one refereeing decision, right or wrong, is just ridiculous. What about the other 26 rounds. To finish 4th all Leigh needed to do is win one more game, or even just score two more tries even winning the same number of games. You can control or influence those things, Derek and Lam should focus on that instead. Refs calls land where they land, people make mistakes and some rule interpretations are sometimes too firm. But that's true for all teams, and during 27 rounds Leigh will have been the beneficiaries as often as experiencing the downside. 

[Harry Stottle]

1 hour ago, Damien said:

And without stating the obvious its awfully simplistic to make out Leigh would have won the game if the try had been given. If a try had been given everything thereafter would have been different and Wigan certainly wouldn't have played the same way.

Ate you implying that for 52 mins since their last score Wigan were quite happy that they had scored enough points to win the game, and so they did not try to score again?

[Harry Stottle]

52 minutes ago, Anita Bath said:

They could have gone by train………oh wait a minute…one of the games was at Leigh.

That's very original, who writes your script?

[Harry Stottle]

37 minutes ago, Jim Prendle said:

An apology would be more apt. But not expected.

[ATLANTISMAN]

Jesus Christ lets all get over this Derek was being emotional end of, life goes on nothing wrong with a bit of passion and anyway we all know that there has never been a referee who had any parents?

[Damien]

14 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

Ate you implying that for 52 mins since their last score Wigan were quite happy that they had scored enough points to win the game, and so they did not try to score again?

I'm not implying anything. I am clearly stating that if that try had been given everything thereafter would be different and Wigan would play a different way. That is hardly a controversial view.

As it is Wigan did not have to chase the game and were quite happy with their defence and repeatedly kicked on the 3rd and 4th tackle, such was their confidence in it.

[Damien]

28 minutes ago, Jim Prendle said:

But it didn’t, did it?

You are also assuming I care about the “Vast majority of observers”, which I don’t.

I consider myself far too mature to keep banging on about supposed injustices against my team whereas you lot look more like children with every passing hour.

Please carry on though, it’s hilarious.

Vast majority of observers = An echo chamber of people that share the same view as me

[Jim Prendle]

14 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

An apology would be more apt. But not expected.

Apology for what? For your self delusion?

You lost, and as others have said, you would most likely have lost even if that score had been given. Wigan had nothing to prove against Leigh having already had you on toast twice already this season.

 

[Eddie]

1 hour ago, gingerjon said:

I don't know if it's the case for Super League, but the EPL has a 'spare' (fake) trophy they can roll out if they can't get the real trophy to a specific stadium in time should the trophy be in doubt until the final whistle.

Sounds sensible. Unless I dreamed it, which seems unlikely, the SFL once helicoptered the Scottish league three trophy to Cowdenbeath when they unexpectedly won it on the last day. I can’t see the RFL doing that though. 

[Harry Stottle]

25 minutes ago, Hull Kingston Bronco said:

Regardless though, the whole idea that Leigh finished 5th because of one refereeing decision, right or wrong, is just ridiculous. What about the other 26 rounds

Just shows how someone can be wrong, I have seemingly given you more credit than you deserve in working things out.

We all know that Leigh can look back on the previous 26 rounds and apportion any blame on any losses as to why they did not finish in a higher position, BUT without question at 20:00 hours on Friday night the result of that game over the next 80 mins would determine if Leigh would finish in 4th or 5th spot  and Wigan would either be champs or in 3rd place, nothing what went before mattered one bit. It was all on that 80 mins, nothing else comes into play, not even HKR eclipsing the points difference, Leigh win you travel to the LSV and Wigan entertain Wire.

Anyway I have you down as firm favourites on Friday given our absentees, and good luck in the semi's I will most fervently be a Robin that evening, which and I swear on my familys life has nothing to do with last Friday's game whatsoever, it is most probably akin to your cross city rivalry.

[Barley Mow]

1 minute ago, Eddie said:

Sounds sensible. Unless I dreamed it, which seems unlikely, the SFL once helicoptered the Scottish league three trophy to Cowdenbeath when they unexpectedly won it on the last day. I can’t see the RFL doing that though. 

As Mr Beaumont pointed out, they can't afford a helicopter!

[Harry Stottle]

21 minutes ago, Jim Prendle said:

Apology for what? For your self delusion?

You lost, and as others have said, you would most likely have lost even if that score had been given. Wigan had nothing to prove against Leigh having already had you on toast twice already this season.

 

OK.

But the apology for you getting me mixed up with someone else in quoting me. Buy like I said not expected.

Edited September 27, 2023 by Harry Stottle

[Hull Kingston Bronco]

3 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

Just shows how someone can be wrong, I have seemingly given you more credit than you deserve in working things out.

We all know that Leigh can look back on the previous 26 rounds and apportion any blame on any losses as to why they did not finish in a higher position, BUT without question at 20:00 hours on Friday night the result of that game over the next 80 mins would determine if Leigh would finish in 4th or 5th spot  and Wigan would either be champs or in 3rd place, nothing what went before mattered one bit. It was all on that 80 mins, nothing else comes into play, not even HKR eclipsing the points difference, Leigh win you travel to the LSV and Wigan entertain Wire.

Anyway I have you down as firm favourites on Friday given our absentees, and good luck in the semi's I will most fervently be a Robin that evening, which and I swear on my familys life has nothing to do with last Friday's game whatsoever, it is most probably akin to your cross city rivalry.

We're not talking about the result of a knock-out match. It's about 4th place in a league of 27 rounds. If you get to go back 20 minutes before the end of match 27 and say "the world would have been different from here if something else had happened", then it's equally valid to go back to any other moment in the prior months. There were 20 mins to go, who knows what might have happened? Just like if something had happened differently in a game 2 weeks earlier, who knows what would have happened in the (longer) time left in the season after that point. 

It's like that Sliding Doors movie eh, the future is uncertain after a fork in the road. It's just as likely Wigan would have still won. In fact, going on form, it is still much more likely Wigan would have won than Leigh.

None of which matters. Refs calls are part of the game. I've no issue with fans losing their marbles, we all do. My original point was I wouldn't want to support a club where the owner implies he's going to walk away and leave it in the lurch, just because something went the wrong way for him. He's disrespecting you too mate.

 

[HawkMan]

18 minutes ago, Eddie said:

Sounds sensible. Unless I dreamed it, which seems unlikely, the SFL once helicoptered the Scottish league three trophy to Cowdenbeath when they unexpectedly won it on the last day. I can’t see the RFL doing that though. 

Tbh I can't see Cowdenbeath winning SL ,so you're probably right.

[WN83]

The mask had to slip at some point. He’s done a great PR job of trying to prove he’s an improved character and I think even his biggest critic from his chequered past, might have started to fall for it but it could never last.

Its a shame really because it loses a few admirers of what he’s done this year, not just for Leigh but in showing the whole game you don’t just need to settle for ‘the norm’. 

[ELBOWSEYE]

9 minutes ago, WN83 said:

The mask had to slip at some point. He’s done a great PR job of trying to prove he’s an improved character and I think even his biggest critic from his chequered past, might have started to fall for it but it could never last.

Its a shame really because it loses a few admirers of what he’s done this year, not just for Leigh but in showing the whole game you don’t just need to settle for ‘the norm’. 

I am not a Leigh supporter but there's a few clubs would love him to fund their clubs.

[17 stone giant]

Do we know if he's since rowed back on some of the comments, or is he continuing to stand by what he said?

[Dave T]

I don't mind DB spitting his dummy out. I enjoy the game having villains and talking points. It's all fun. 

But it's nonsense to suggest people should keep quiet. 

[Leyther_Matt]

2 hours ago, Eddie said:

Given that the games were likely to go to the wire, Leigh to St Helens or Salford is a fair drive after the final hooter to get it to the other stadium in time to present the trophy in front of the fans. If that was the case they’re lucky Wigan won it. 

They could have been sat at the Greyhound on the East Lancs and made all three venues in less than 20 minutes. Would have been an absolute doddle tbh. 

[GUBRATS]

As I said at the start Derek does what Derek does , what might potentially be in his thoughts like mine is that we are in a unique position right now with one trophy in the cabinet and a team capable of catching the other , we might never ever be in this position again , as is often shown building long term success requires more than money and an outstanding recruitment of players , this season might just have been ' ours ' , I truly believed a win on Friday would have resulted in us making OT , that chance has severely diminished , so I feel his frustration , still doesn't make what he said right , but it's done now 

[Eddie]

45 minutes ago, HawkMan said:

Tbh I can't see Cowdenbeath winning SL ,so you're probably right.

Maybe they’re the club interested in entering league one.