Damien Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 On 06/05/2024 at 15:24, Lowdesert said: As much as I’d like to impressed, I aren’t with this one. I suppose there needs to be some strength to provide a platform for the youth that’s coming through but, and with respect to OH, we need to be targeting players of a better standard now. Fifita would do. Off to the Roosters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MZH Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 22 minutes ago, bratman said: Ben Reynolds And Ollie Russell apparently. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phiggins Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 52 minutes ago, MZH said: And Ollie Russell apparently. That would make Reynolds an even stranger signing. Is he even going to play? Seen the quotes from Myler saying he will add depth, which suggests not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Badrinath Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 24 minutes ago, phiggins said: That would make Reynolds an even stranger signing. Is he even going to play? Seen the quotes from Myler saying he will add depth, which suggests not. That is a weird signing, he's a 6 to my recollection, if trueman is back and you're trying to get him match fit, makes no sense bringing another stand off in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phiggins Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 27 minutes ago, Barry Badrinath said: That is a weird signing, he's a 6 to my recollection, if trueman is back and you're trying to get him match fit, makes no sense bringing another stand off in The only party in this merry go round that I can see this working well for is Cas. They've got a player off the wage bill that they don't want. Meanwhile, Hull KR appear to have loaned out one player that wont play and replaced him with someone else that won't play. While FC seem to have brought somebody in to also not play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phiggins Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 Aaron Bower reporting Hull offering Hardaker a multi year deal. Myler has clearly implemented an extensive scouting system 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowys Backside Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 6 hours ago, phiggins said: Aaron Bower reporting Hull offering Hardaker a multi year deal. Myler has clearly implemented an extensive scouting system Can’t they take him now ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phiggins Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 47 minutes ago, Snowys Backside said: Can’t they take him now ? That was my hope. Still is, particularly since recalling chamberlain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweaty craiq Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 This has now gone too far 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza77 Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 11 hours ago, Barry Badrinath said: That is a weird signing, he's a 6 to my recollection, if trueman is back and you're trying to get him match fit, makes no sense bringing another stand off in Even stranger when you consider KR paid Fev a "sizeable fee" for him only about 10 weeks ago. Please view my photos. http://www.hughesphoto.co.uk/ Little Nook Farm - Caravan Club Certificated Location in the heart of the Pennines overlooking Hebden Bridge and the Calder Valley. http://www.facebook.com/LittleNookFarm Little Nook Cottage - 2-bed self-catering cottage in the heart of the Pennines overlooking Hebden Bridge and the Calder Valley. Book now via airbnb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz39 Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 Olly Russell on loan to FC till the end of the season then signing permanently for Wakefield for 2025 is a big rumour at our end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbruce Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 11 hours ago, phiggins said: Aaron Bower reporting Hull offering Hardaker a multi year deal. Myler has clearly implemented an extensive scouting system If Hull/Myler can’t see Hardaker is done they are in trouble. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakeyranger Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 8 hours ago, bobbruce said: If Hull/Myler can’t see Hardaker is done they are in trouble. Agree. Put aside all his off field stuff (if you can). He just doesn't look like the player he was. Tbh I was half expecting him to go to Fev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MZH Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 1 hour ago, wakeyranger said: Agree. Put aside all his off field stuff (if you can). He just doesn't look like the player he was. Tbh I was half expecting him to go to Fev. That's my concern, that he is a shadow of the player he was. If he was a model pro you could write it off as "not what he was, but loads of experience, will help the younger players develop, etc." And if he was still a top player you could gloss over his indiscretions. But this seems like worst of both worlds. A potential loose cannon who doesn't offer much on the field any more. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowdesert Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 8 minutes ago, MZH said: That's my concern, that he is a shadow of the player he was. If he was a model pro you could write it off as "not what he was, but loads of experience, will help the younger players develop, etc." And if he was still a top player you could gloss over his indiscretions. But this seems like worst of both worlds. A potential loose cannon who doesn't offer much on the field any more. I think he still has some good stuff in him, it’s just he reverts to taking easier choices more and more nowadays. Human frailty, unfortunately. Let’s hope there are caveats in his Contract in event of indiscretions, on & off the pitch. There should be a number, ideally about a dozen +, but I have my doubts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweaty craiq Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 Some good news at last or is it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 10 hours ago, bobbruce said: If Hull/Myler can’t see Hardaker is done they are in trouble. Shhhh bob, he is wonderful and I am so upset that he is leaving us 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phiggins Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 1 minute ago, Lowdesert said: I think he still has some good stuff in him, it’s just he reverts to taking easier choices more and more nowadays. Human frailty, unfortunately. Let’s hope there are caveats in his Contract in event of indiscretions, on & off the pitch. There should be a number, ideally about a dozen +, but I have my doubts. When he plays well, he is a good defensive centre. Played a big role in both the cup semi final and final last season. And had decent games defensively against Warrington and Cas recently. But those decent games are becoming rarer, and the sight of him on the floor after being trampled over by Tex Hoy was a pretty sad one. Looked like one of the player's dads had come on for a game. On top of that, I don't think the pairing of him and Briscoe as a centre / wing partnership ever really worked. Most, if not all of Briscoe's tries were assisted by O'Brien, and when the play did go through Hardaker, the pass to Briscoe ended up in touch. And they never really defended kicks very well either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweaty craiq Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 Zak has done a great job for us, CCF was his doing when it mattered but he is past his best and has made some howlers in defence this season and not worth a big money 2 year deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowdesert Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 50 minutes ago, phiggins said: When he plays well, he is a good defensive centre. Played a big role in both the cup semi final and final last season. And had decent games defensively against Warrington and Cas recently. But those decent games are becoming rarer, and the sight of him on the floor after being trampled over by Tex Hoy was a pretty sad one. Looked like one of the player's dads had come on for a game. On top of that, I don't think the pairing of him and Briscoe as a centre / wing partnership ever really worked. Most, if not all of Briscoe's tries were assisted by O'Brien, and when the play did go through Hardaker, the pass to Briscoe ended up in touch. And they never really defended kicks very well either Probably because he’s principally a FB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phiggins Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 1 minute ago, Lowdesert said: Probably because he’s principally a FB. When was the last time he played regularly at full back? Thought he played at centre at both Leeds and Wigan before signing for Leigh? He doesn't have the pace that he had in 2017 at Cas, his passing game isn't at the level that you'd expect from most full backs now, who mainly act as extra halves. And while his positioning after a break is still there on the occaisions he fills in at fb for Leigh, he's not actually making the tackles anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowdesert Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 29 minutes ago, phiggins said: When was the last time he played regularly at full back? Thought he played at centre at both Leeds and Wigan before signing for Leigh? He doesn't have the pace that he had in 2017 at Cas, his passing game isn't at the level that you'd expect from most full backs now, who mainly act as extra halves. And while his positioning after a break is still there on the occaisions he fills in at fb for Leigh, he's not actually making the tackles anyway. Back end of last year, for Leigh, and also about 10 times in 2022. Must have been games you didn’t go to Like I said, he can play, but imo he needs some kind of freedom to his game. Unfortunately against the coaches wishes most of the time! Considering the ‘culture’ has been mentioned since Smith and now Grix have been in charge of coaching, this goes against changing it imo. They say it, but don’t really understand how to change it. I think that also applies to many people. For what it’s worth, I don’t think Grix is the future either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phiggins Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 24 minutes ago, Lowdesert said: Back end of last year, for Leigh, and also about 10 times in 2022. Must have been games you didn’t go to Like I said, he can play, but imo he needs some kind of freedom to his game. Unfortunately against the coaches wishes most of the time! Considering the ‘culture’ has been mentioned since Smith and now Grix have been in charge of coaching, this goes against changing it imo. They say it, but don’t really understand how to change it. I think that also applies to many people. For what it’s worth, I don’t think Grix is the future either. He didn’t play full back at the back end of last year. In fact he didn’t play at all back end of last year, he broke his hand. Hardaker was given the number 1 shirt, but O’Brien was first choice after only a couple of games. As for your last sentence. Suspect it’s a question of whether Lam becomes the coach now, or next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowdesert Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 18 minutes ago, phiggins said: He didn’t play full back at the back end of last year. In fact he didn’t play at all back end of last year, he broke his hand. Hardaker was given the number 1 shirt, but O’Brien was first choice after only a couple of games. As for your last sentence. Suspect it’s a question of whether Lam becomes the coach now, or next season Yeah, you’re right. Records show he played at FB once in Feb, once in April 2023. Against your opponents tonight actually. 10 times in 2022. He’s played FB for the majority of his career though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Futtocks Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 Aaron Bower with a list of some of the player who have not yet been offered a new deal for next season. https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/exclusive-list-of-super-league-players-not-offered-deals-revealed-including-wigan-warriors-hull-kr-stars Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted. Ralph Waldo Emerson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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