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Bedford Roughyed

Bedford Roughyed

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Just now, JM2010 said:

Are there any other RL clubs in Bedford? The only way any new professional club, especially outside the heartlands, can be sustainable in the long term and add something to RL in general is to build a strong community game in their local area

Just the one club in Bedford.  

With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!


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RP London
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They also have a fantastic ability to search for players.. 

Damien
Damien

It's a travesty that RL was left to disappear in Carlisle (or practically disappear). The whole episode was a complete dereliction of duty by the RFL and its role. It would cost millions to build up R

Damien
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Blast from the past:    

JM2010

JM2010

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Just now, Bedford Roughyed said:

Just the one club in Bedford.  

Do you think the Tigers will try and develop the junior game in Bedford or will all the money be spent on being competitive?

 

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OriginalMrC

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10 minutes ago, JM2010 said:

Are there any other RL clubs in Bedford? The only way any new professional club, especially outside the heartlands, can be sustainable in the long term and add something to RL in general is to build a strong community game in their local area

They are already doing that. The problem when professional though is that it takes so much hard work that all the community stuff becomes another ball to juggle. Not to mention harder to find funds for anything other than the players needed to be competitive. 

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JM2010

JM2010

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1 minute ago, OriginalMrC said:

They are already doing that. The problem when professional though is that it takes so much hard work that all the community stuff becomes another ball to juggle. Not to mention harder to find funds for anything other than the players needed to be competitive. 

That’s my reservation about any amateur club stepping up to the professional ranks. I’d love to see Bedford Tigers, London Skolars, South Wales, Bristol, Nottingham etc in the pro game but it has to come without being at the expense of the community game in those places

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Bedford Roughyed

Bedford Roughyed

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40 minutes ago, JM2010 said:

Do you think the Tigers will try and develop the junior game in Bedford or will all the money be spent on being competitive?

 

I mean they have launched over the years, 2 mens sides, 2 Women's, junior teams, inc feeder teams, a wheelchair side...

So fair to say they have done a bit of developing.

It's a fair point to ask if it would divert attention though.  

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With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!

JM2010

JM2010

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1 minute ago, Bedford Roughyed said:

I mean they have launched over the years, 2 mens sides, 2 Women's, junior teams, inc feeder teams, a wheelchair side...

So fair to say they have done a bit of developing.

It's a fair point to ask if it would divert attention though.  

Sounds like they’ve been doing some good stuff. Hopefully they can get some decent investment and continue the good work 

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Eddie

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16 hours ago, newbe said:

It's not just about player cost's. It's all the other cost ie Doctors {which cost's a fortune》medical equipment, certain ground standards, travel cost. These people might have very good intentions, but need to look at the reasons other clubs pulled out or folded.

Of course they’ve done that, they’re not idiots. 

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Hello

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Does it have to be either/or? Could both be admitted? Plus maybe even another club? I think that that would be better.

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Gomersall

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25 minutes ago, Hello said:

Does it have to be either/or? Could both be admitted? Plus maybe even another club? I think that that would be better.

I think the idea is to get to 36 teams so the system becomes 3 leagues of 12.

Archie Gordon

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6 minutes ago, Anita Bath said:

Has anyone considered the game might not be able to support 36 professional teams? 

It's a good point. Is the review that led to this call for a L1 team public? I had a look but didn't see it.

Damien

Damien

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11 minutes ago, Anita Bath said:

Has anyone considered the game might not be able to support 36 professional teams? 

It certainly can, whether it chooses to is a different matter.

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OriginalMrC

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25 minutes ago, Anita Bath said:

Has anyone considered the game might not be able to support 36 professional teams? 

36 divides into 3 divisions of 12 easily. I think that was the main consideration. 

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RP London

RP London

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Surly this shouldn't be an "open call", the RFL should have a strategy that says, "right the next place we need to open up is xyz therefore we need a club from that area and we will help them get to the point where they are ready" be that with pure cash or with DO style RFL employees helping out instead of it just being volunteers.. then there can be a strategic plan for building the game around it and where the most sensible growth areas are, what helps link the outposts up etc.

right thats off my chest I can now relax and sit back to watch the RFL throw more pins at a map without any support and expect different outcomes to the last umpteen times we've tried.. 

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Damien

Damien

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9 minutes ago, RP London said:

Surly this shouldn't be an "open call", the RFL should have a strategy that says, "right the next place we need to open up is xyz therefore we need a club from that area and we will help them get to the point where they are ready" be that with pure cash or with DO style RFL employees helping out instead of it just being volunteers.. then there can be a strategic plan for building the game around it and where the most sensible growth areas are, what helps link the outposts up etc.

right thats off my chest I can now relax and sit back to watch the RFL throw more pins at a map without any support and expect different outcomes to the last umpteen times we've tried.. 

You are absolutely correct.

Even if it isn't RFL led in terms of area any new club should be followed through with a comprehensive strategy to also develop the game in that area, assistance for grants for facilities etc. Done correctly it should greatly increase the prospects of any new club and give them the best possible foundation.

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Anita Bath

Anita Bath

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2 hours ago, OriginalMrC said:

36 divides into 3 divisions of 12 easily. I think that was the main consideration. 

That must be the type of strategic insight IMG was brought on board to provide. I can picture several highly paid consultants with their shoes and socks off finally coming up with the eureka moment - 12 goes into 36  3 times. 

And why is it so magical to have three equal sized leagues?

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Hello

Hello

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6 hours ago, Gomersall said:

I think the idea is to get to 36 teams so the system becomes 3 leagues of 12.

Yes, I believe that that´s been said on here.  If though, and I stress if, a couple of other teams on top of that 36 seem to have a sound financial plan then I see it as good for the sport to have them in and increase the areas which have representation.

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4 hours ago, OriginalMrC said:

What's most fascinating is a presumably grown up human being trying to troll on a RL forum.

Do you mean the person talking about RU on an RL forum for no apparent reason?

Agbrigg

Agbrigg

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On 30/05/2024 at 10:35, OriginalMrC said:

36 divides into 3 divisions of 12 easily. I think that was the main consideration. 

12 teams in the SL or Championship is not enough and it means loop fixtures. 14 as a minimum in those two divisions

Damien

Damien

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8 minutes ago, Anita Bath said:

IMG all about focussing teams on big connurbations and RFL invite an application from wymondham, population 16,000. Seems like April 1st again.

Not every club has to be a Super League club.

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Toby Chopra

Toby Chopra

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10 minutes ago, Hello said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cv229geldjpo.amp

 

Interesting. What does Eddie think about this?

I wish anyone trying to grow the game the best of luck, but the guy's quote says:

"There's so much rugby talent in the region; in East Anglia there is definitely enough talent in the region to support a team entering that... level of the professional game." (L1)

That's just patently untrue. There are not enough L1 standard rugby league players in East Anglia unless you dumb down the standard so much to make it meaningless.

We know how this will go and this sort of delusion doesn't help anyone.

I've no idea why the RFL are encouraging it.

 

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