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  1. 29 points
    Just how good is this ?
  2. 21 points
    The big news is that published today we have the inaugural BC High School Challenge Cup. Robert McMath Secondary will take on Point Grey Secondary in the first high school rugby league game in Canada! Sponsored by the Toronto wolfpack, slightly over shadowed today. Also the Georgina Griffins RLFC (http://www.georginagriffinsrlfc.ca/) have been around for a few months, and even invited to play during the interval at the Americas 9s. since then the Haldimand Wolfpack RLFC (http://www.haldimandwolfpack.com) have started. The Iroquois Roots Rugby have started to produce players for the Canadian 9s and the Women team, they seem to have a relationship with the CRL and are even advertising tryouts via the CRL facebook page.
  3. 20 points
    TBF yet again Hull were missing 17 first team players. Today's missing 17 were Jamie Shaul; Kieran Buchanan, Josh Griffin, Jake Connor, Ratu Naulago; Albert Kelly, Marc Sneyd, Scott Taylor, Danny Washbrook Mickey Paea; Dean Hadley, Mark Minichiello; Joe Westerman,Josh Bowden, Chris Green, Sika Manu and Brad Fash.
  4. 19 points
    I sincerely hope that in time Argyle reconsiders this decision. It is the wrong one. Not just because my support for the wolfpack and my hope for their success but regardless. It is the wrong one. We, as a sport, need to offer a pathway for redemption. Too often we act as this parallel system of justice, moralising and excluding as if we can somehow hold ourselves to a high standard than the society we mirror. We can't, we just chase our tail and expose our hypocrisy. We have within our game owners who have challenged fans to a fight, we have players who have taken recreational and performance enhancing drugs, we have drink drivers, adulterers, gamblers, those guilty of homophobic and racist words and no doubt actions. We can't solve these problems and casting people out who make errors achieves nothing. All we can do is offer a pathway to redemption, and where we are successful we don't just mirror society, we improve it. Nobody gains by Argyle stepping down, we all lose a voice and driver of rugby league. Had we looked at this as a teaching moment. A moment to learn and change and create restitution we would have all gained.
  5. 19 points
    That's ok then,let's all crack on with being racist and hope nobody whinges about it.
  6. 17 points
    Let's hope so,sick of seeing some teams playing each other 4/5 times a season.
  7. 17 points
    No it's not especially if you watch with a good knowledge of the laws of the game and aren't biased towards one team or another
  8. 17 points
    With 5 wins in a row. Admittedly Whitehaven have two games in hand but the Skolars are having a sensational season. I'd love for them to be promoted. Exciting times in North London.
  9. 15 points
    Liverpool, rightly, do not let The Sun into Anfield. This fits in with the city of Liverpool's ongoing boycott of the Sun. Because the Sun made the decision to knowingly lie about the 96 who died at Hillsborough by dragging their names, and those of every other supporter at the game, through the mud. EDIT Everton also ban them.
  10. 15 points
    This thread started with a clearly trolling point and then has descended further allowing people like The Parksider to whine yet again. Why not go plague other forums with this sort of stuff? Locked, and don't start it again.
  11. 15 points
    I don't think any of them were really mergers. They were more like takeovers with the stronger entity asset stripping the weaker one and carrying on as before.
  12. 15 points
    I think some balance is in order here. References have been made to Robert Elstone's favourable comments on his visit to Toulouse. That's absolutely fine, but many may recall these equally positive comments about his visit to Toronto: “They’ve created an environment and atmosphere we should capture and promote across the whole of Super League. “I’m certain we can all learn from how they’ve connected with a younger audience – the one so critical for Super League’s future. “It’s a vision created by owner David Argyle and it was good to spend time with him. “Repeating the attributes I think are really important for Super League, he’s certainly ambitious – for the Wolfpack and the sport; he’s confident – really believes he and his team can deliver; and it’s young – he’s talking with, and bringing into the club, a demographic the sport has to connect with. “Toronto is a fantastic city, and one that anyone would enjoy visiting. Encouraging the simplistic view that Robert Elstone clearly supports Toulouse and is anti-Toronto, is not based on a a measured assessment of the evidence available.
  13. 14 points
    Where would it stop? North Wales Crusaders - might offend muslims Wigan Warriors - militaristic overtones? Salford Red Devils - promoting Satan worship? York City Knights - might offend muslims Wakefield Trinity - offensive to non-Christians who don't believe the doctrine of the Trinity West Wales Raiders - militaristic overtones? Barrow Raiders - see above Keighley Cougars - offends women of a certain age Rochdale Hornets - might offend apiarists Toronto Wolfpack - might be seen as mocking lycanthropes
  14. 14 points
    Just got home...... Yeeeeeeeerssssss.. What a game, what an atmosphere,.... The Saints fans we spoke to were fantastic and all were in great humour.... Also, I was at the Trailfinders / London Irish game earlier this year and there was more here today than that!! 3000 crowd and we beat Saints!!!!! Feel like crying but I won't..... I'll just get drunk instead..... Yyeeeeeeerrerreesssss!!!!!
  15. 14 points
    Going by some of their tackling this season a non contact sport could be the making of the Rhino's
  16. 14 points
    I'm not British, but I too consider it one of THE most important things in our game. Income aside, it's the image we portray, full grandstands looks so much better than empty ones. I don't know how 'obsessing' over pursuing high attendances can possibly be a bad thing?
  17. 14 points
    He's already won the Championship with Fev, not sure why he'd want to win it again with a different club?
  18. 14 points
    It seems like Pangai Junior has chosen to play for Tonga instead of NSW. It shows what players want to play more of given the chance, that is international Rugby League. What absolutely fantastic news for Tonga and the internetal game: https://www.sportingnews.com/au/amp/league/news/nrl-news-brisbane-broncos-tevita-pangai-jr-tonga-new-south-wales-nsw-state-of-origin/dide2v4elpwv1qsx7fpixl2mi
  19. 14 points
    You referring to the WP in the past tense does not validate your arguments. Neither does your pretence of taking Elstone's remarks and repeating them as if he somehow supports your endlessly repetitive anti-Wolfpack position. RL is expanding into new markets whether you like it or not, Wolfpack is going to superleague again whether you like it or not, Ottawa will enter League 1 AGAIN whether you like it or not and both teams will flourish. As I have said before and as many, many others accept and embrace it will take a long time to develop homegrown talent but having two, three or even four NA teams will expedite that development. Thinking people know it cannot happen in the ridiculously short time that you seem fixated on as the measure of success/failure. Same for broadcast deals, they too will come as the game takes hold over here..and it is taking hold. Whether you like it or not.
  20. 14 points
  21. 14 points
    1. The World Cup qualifier was something to behold. 300 hundred or so Greek and Norwegian fans (inc the Norwegian ambassador) cheering wildly but I as I suspect the overwhelming majority had not been to a RL game before didn't understand much of the technicalities. Greece look a decent side and put their cue on the rack early in second half and allowed a plucky Norge side to show us how they got here. Final score 56-26. 2. More bizarrely, the Broncos again confounded the critics by careering into a Wakey side that they had already mugged at Ealing by exactly the same score 42 points. But typical Broncos they did what only the could do and leak 28 points in the final ten minutes or so. But, this win really puts the cat amongst the pigeons for next weeks big clash with Leeds in Liverpool at the Magic weekend. 3. Probably even more unexpected in League One Skolars sit proudly on top of the table tonight after an arm wrestle with a Doncaster with some big names in it. Not a pretty game in difficult conditions at times, but this Skolars side has something that previous ones haven't, the grit and the nous to grind out wins. The game at Haven next Saturday looks immense. But with now a seven point gap between themselves and sixth place Skolars look well place for the play-offs at least. Well done Jermaine and the crew. .
  22. 13 points
    I hope we go to 14. Just add Toronto and Toulouse for a wonderfully cosmopolitan contest!
  23. 13 points
    I knew this thread was only a matter of time... In short we would lose an awful lot, and potentially a damn site more going forward if the Wolfpack and wider game in Canada even comes close to reaching the potential shown. That should be pretty obvious to anyone without an agenda. Hopefully it won't come to that.
  24. 13 points
    Tony Smith... No compensation due to another club for taking their coach, plus he can still use the TS embossed coaches shirts that Sheens has vacated. Value for money all round
  25. 13 points
    Reports that the RLEF (ie the European federation) has approved a new format from 2020, 17 nations in three divisions with one-up, one-down P&R, tournament every two years, caps on heritage players. Top division of England, France, Ireland, Italy, Scotland, Wales. Second division six teams, third division five teams TBC. (Via the Chasing Kangaroos podcast.)
  26. 13 points
    Its a global sport, played in at least 43 countries recognised by the IRLF, with fans in every corner of this country and many who tune in from abroad. There are even a few people, who play it in Canada. Its just not right that we can only watch it at midnight, in a small geographical area of this country, when they collect license fees from the whole place. It stinks mate and if it wasn't for the institutionalised prejudice against us, we'd be a lot further along with national and global development. Your comments are off the mark. I can understand that you may be ignorant of place names like Bradford, Warrington, Wigan etc. but over here they are household names in every borough, the length and breadth of the country. You should make your mind up, are you a fan or not, because you come across as someone who takes every opportunity to knock this great game and I'm tired of it. I'm sure all true fans, would agree with me.
  27. 13 points
    Well, my one person test worked. My cousin moved to Ottawa about 25 years ago. Originally from South Wales he is a big sports fan but has never been in a rugby league area so never followed the game. I deliberately didn't mention anything about the Ottawa bid on Facebook which he's pretty active on. Yesterday, it happened. A link shared by him into my timeline. "Looks like we're getting a rugby league team" ... he'd come across a report on a local website and is now interested enough to check it out when they play next year.
  28. 13 points
    Starting a petition to give you a new username.....Oliver Boreoff
  29. 13 points
    31555 the official attendance. New record.
  30. 12 points
    A proud game with northern working class roots should do every single thing it can to shut out The Sun newspaper.
  31. 12 points
    A 14 team SL just makes sense, it gets rid of the loop fixtures, and allows the top level to expand sensibly. The rumours won't go away because it's entirely logical.
  32. 12 points
    seriously, what is the point of this thread?
  33. 12 points
    If League one goes and any club like Coventry, Skolars are dispanded as a result that's me done with the sport. It's the same badly run teams in traditional areas with too much say in how the sport is run. The mergers of Hull/Gateshead and Sheffield/Huddersfield is the perfect example of this.
  34. 12 points
    Toronto is a hard core hockey/soccer/CFL/baseball/lacrosse stronghold which isn't looking for an alternative sport.
  35. 12 points
    I’ve said this before but I’m going to have to say it again, in a 20 year reffing career spanning all levels from under 8s to international games I never ever cheated a team, nor did I ever see any of my fellow officials do so. Clubs may well have felt they were cheated but that’s not my concern. As lots of people on here and in other places have said, give it a flipping go!!!!
  36. 12 points
  37. 12 points
    I’ve just had an awful thought. There could be an Ottawa equivalent of Kman!!!
  38. 11 points
    Wonderful celebration of beverleys life in the church that kev and bev were married and alexander was christenened. Church packed to the rafters with friends, family, playing staff past and present, coaches, colleagues, sponsors and fans. Kevs eulogy was light hearted at times, comical and gave a real insight into the wonderful woman. Brave and dearly missed. Makes you proud to be part of such a fantastic warm and genuine community club.
  39. 11 points
    Top of the table lose to bottom of the table by 1 point.How can you not love this game? well done London!!
  40. 11 points
    The heartland clubs will do everything to save themselves at the expense of those from other areas. And then a few months later, when one of them is in financial trouble again, we'll hear some nonsense about "the RL family" as they pass the begging bowl.
  41. 11 points
    Apparently he's the 17th best forward ever in the SL era ahead of Lee Gilmour and Chris Hill according to RL World. That is literally one of the most ridiculous things I've seen in all my years as a RL fan.
  42. 11 points
    People generally moan about the standard of refereeing being poor but I disagree. Yes poor decisions are made but overall the standard of reffing is good. They are human and cannot see everything. Easy to criticise someone missing something when you have the benefit of replays on TV. Another thing which refs constantly receive criticism for is the offside rule and forward passes. In both these cases I can guarantee 90% of the time that it is the fans who have got it wrong!
  43. 11 points
    Watching all the clips on social media etc for the LDSL really is incredibly uplifting, the sheer joy on the faces on those taking part is brilliant, as well as the look of accomplishment from the organisers etc. Well done to every single person involved in this.
  44. 11 points
    The York City Knights Squad Builder Fund has today received a cheque from Ron Wagner-Wright in Hawaii. Ron has given this donation in honour of his grandfather, Ernie Wright, who played rugby league in York in the 1920s. Although totally blind, Ron follows the progress of York City Knights from Hawaii. Andy Gomersall.
  45. 11 points
    OK EVERYONE - YOUR OTTAWA BORN AND RAISED EXPERT IS ON HAND TO ANSWER ALL YOUR QUESTIONS AND ALLAY ALL DOUBTS! Once again regretfully I have been away from the forum for awhile and I returned tonight as I finally had a little time on my hands and I saw the great news! I cancelled seeing John Wick 3 for the 9th time - staying and answering your questions was that important to me! Its a long post but its only because I multiqouted as i read through all prior 10 pgs - thank goodness it was not the usual 25 "I hate all things Wolfpack" like when I first joined this forum. I do quick answers to each quote and then a few more observations below. Its not a hard read. Sidenote #1: I went to St Pats in Ottawa as did my father. They did. I would say perhaps the most influential communities were Irish and Italian. I have family on both sides. sidenote #2: For those of you who know Ottawa, a family member on the Italian side managed the Prescott Hotel - famous drinking establishment/watering hole in little Italy, and my parents in fact had their wedding reception there (2nd floor is much nicer). Its now quite tame. It was not back then. Worse. I discuss this more below although not nearly as bad as when I grew up. Ottawa is one place where the impact of climate change is really visible for anyone who has lived there for decades. Much to far to walk. The new LRT system in Ottawa would allow you to scoot over to the Carleton University stop and then either walk or take a bus. I see those images and my mouth is already watering at the prospect of beaver tails and hot chocolate. Oh the memories..... There was a time when Ottawa winters and weather were so legendary that if you said you were from Ottawa people from anywhere else in Canada looked upon you with pity - its winters were that notorious. That is because the Ottawa Valley is a bit of a unique microclimate trapped between 2 major zones or so I am told. In my youthful days it started snowing at the beginning of November (snow that usually stayed on the ground) and stopped in late April, and Dec through March were reliably -15C or colder (sometimes much much colder) almost every single day. In my working career I have lived in 7 out of 10 provinces as well as one territory. Ottawa was one of the worst hands down if you hate winter. Those days are gone. Ottawa winters are a shadow of yesteryear. But unless they dome the field there will be no rugby until April. Sidenote #3: I used to own 16 pairs of cross country skis (I was a competitive skier), 4 pairs of snowshoes (I used to race in carnival events) and 3 pairs of downhill skis -> only pansies use downhill skis to go downhill - i used my cross country skis - its called telemarking. Ottawa has the 4th largest CMA in Canada after Toronto, Montreal and Vancover. It is about 1.25 million. Ottawa proper is about 1 million people. Its a great town to visit due to accessibility of outdoors, many national museums, beaches right in the city, major urban parks, the Rideau Canal, Byward Market Area, etc. Plus lots of high quality maple syrup from local sugarbushes. Worth its weight in gold. None. Zero. Zilch. Whoever is saying such must be smoking something green and very powerful and hallucinogenic, said substance being legal here but leading its users to be prone to outlandish figures of speech that have no basis in any reality other then their imaginary one. I played snowcrosse, snowball, snowshoe racing and cross country sking in the stadium at various times (not all legally I might add and very few of you would be familiar with these exotic sports...). But alas I think Rugby players are not tough enough for Ottawa conditions in Feb/March although I personally played many a football game in the early winter. By football I mean real full contact North American football not that pansy thing with the round ball and fake injuries they play in Europe... I got trapped in Ice on the Ottawa River once so I know your pain. Actually I have been trapped in ice a few times regretfully. Never let it be said I learn from my mistakes! Rumour has it that Perez is going to invite players from several Central and South American clubs to try out as each one of these countries has a diplomatic presence and community in Ottawa. Especially Jamaica, Chile and a few others. I made up that rumour now but I think it is a good idea! Seriously since he is planning a slower approach why not? There are likely some players good enough from what we saw in the 9's recently to give a shot to a few. Its L1, not Championship or SL. I think the crowd sizes in Ottawa will surprise you all. Ottawa has a much larger rugby culture already in place then Toronto ever had. Both universities have rugby teams. Both have dedicated practice facilities and Ottawa U even has a its own field just for the varsity team! There is a dedicated rugby park for children and adult leagues. Several high schools play the game. Given time I think they can grow a talent pool. And attract some players from down south to contribute to that pool. People in Ottawa did not grow up knowing soccer. Outdoor rugged sports are the historical norm in the city: football, field lacrosse, rugby, log rolling, beaver wrestling, etc are what most Ottawa people grew up with. I had never seen a soccer ball until I left the city. We did not play it in school. That has changed of course but soccer is not the big sport in the city. The ownership group behind the Ottawa franchise is incredibly well healed. Its not a poor group but a very professional set of owners for which the headline partner already owns every major sporting team in the area other then the NHL hockey team. I think Ottawa will have no issues drawing north of 5k people every game. IF the ownership group targets correctly I believe they could do much better then that. I favour a team in Montreal for the next Canadian entrant. I know the Wolfpack have made some major inroads into broadcast and I suspect an Ottawa team will make all such broadcasters even more interested. SEE. I did not lie. Short easy to swallow paragraphs with semi-interesting biographical details for bonuses. And all facts. Almost no hearsay. I will gratefully accept your accolades now... and even answer a few Ottawa questions from time to time. Going to call all my lawyer friends in Ottawa and get the scoop asap. I only consumed a modest amount of wine (1 bottle but I am 6'1" and 225 pnds of imagined muscle so that is not an overt amount to consume IMHO) during the making of this post. SUPER NEWS!
  46. 11 points
    I like parky post. It's well thought out and researched. It's just a shame that things have changed in the 3 years since he wrote it.
  47. 11 points
    Hold your horses about the MW in Barcelona; one very successful game involving a ‘local side’ doesn’t mean we should up sticks... leave Barcelona to Catalan to develop; it’s their patch and they have a form of identity with the locals.
  48. 11 points
    Well I certainly did not see that one coming, for 70 minutes, London gave a passable impersonation of a Super League team in the Jordan Abdull show - Watch the tries whwen the club puts them on the webite its' worth it - All the things you just had not seen in weeks, off loads , line breaks, Solid defence it was there. I have been Ill all week so by the time the score reacheed 42-6, I was half-thinking - This medications strong stuff... As for the London Phantom well you saw good and bad Keiran on display today, Good going forward bad in defence in the last 10 minutes when it was his flank under attack. and lucky when we were only 10-0 up that his inability to deal with the high ball did not result in Wakefield dragging it back to 10-6. Wakefield fans were sanguine about the result one or two saying London was a bogey ground for Trinity even when the Broncos were a poor side. However the final scoreline flatters Trinity, Injuries or no Injuries, if you have Grand Final pretensions whatever XIII you put on the paddock should not be 42-6 down to the bottom club. Being 42-6 up posed a bit of a problem for the Broncos who were in the unusual position, for them, of having builit up a winning lead but seemingly perplexed as to how to approach the last 20 minutes. Fifita barged over for a try for Wakefield then.. From 42-12, London mad 10 minutes started with Wakley getting repeat tries, se after set. I think there was a case of "thanks I have seen enough" on and off the field with London showing an inability to kill the game n the manner other sides have when building up a lead at Trailfinders. We we all guilty of playing out time, for not only was I glancing at the watch every 30 seconds but the bloke next to me was doing the same staring at his right arm where his watch should have been... Ultimately London had a big enough cushion to win. Did the late flurry of Wakefield tries take the gloss off the win for me. Well put it this way, I did not think we would win so I will take a win by an 8 point margin and would have taken a one point win secured by a wobbly duck of a drop goal bouncing in off the cross bar. What it does do is it means Super Leagues Ultimate Underdogs have not only won more games than Widnes did all last season but have given themselves a punchers chance of staying up. I don't think it will be enough at the end of the day, but this team of try hards is not going away quietly and, as a fan, that's all you can ask for.
  49. 10 points
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/10/accentism-yorkshire-regional-dialects-english-snobbery?fbclid=IwAR2kNLOjVxdryku0OPmnlkVdM439qSVTPhDotDWm7K62Ngh3V-CAP6iGgh8 Brilliant article about a subject I could go on and on and on about - which means i am going to do a bit. It ALWAYS gets me that, every now and increasingly frequently again, us Yorkshire types have to justify ourselves. When I moved to London it was like learning a foreign language - I had to stop using most of the words I had grown up with 'cos the buggers couldn't understand me (my favourites are when I walked into a newsagents and asked for a Mars bar and got given a carrier bag "because its what you asked for" and then perplexing my new buddies by inviting them to the feast at Kennington Park; they thought they were going to get well fed, I was after a kicking ride on the Wall of Death). 15 years later, back in the Promised Land, I had to unlearn all these southren (yep, that's how we spell it you lot) words and start all over again because, contrary to the academics bemoaning the arrival of Estuary English (by which they meant Thames, not Humber) my native vocabulary was STILL in use. You can still buy the dialect dictionaries and, from that mucky ##### Emily Bronte's "Wuthering Heights" to Ross Raisins "Gods Own Country" (published a few years back to immense critical acclaim). you can STILL read proper literature in dialect and not the cod stuff. As far as the voice itself goes, this article reminds me of how actor Wilfred Pickles was hired by the BBC as their first Yorkshire speaking newsreader in the 1930s and got sacks of hate mail because of his Halifax accent. One woman told him "I don't like you Mr Pickles - you sound just like Mr Hitler" and "can't we send this dreadful man back to where he comes from?" Which is EXACTLY what the BBC did - Pickles was shafted back to "the provinces". Well, its where the Matinee Idol belonged. When that snob of all snobs, Virginia Wolf, called J B Priestley "a tradesmans writer" she was telling us that this scintillating socialist was nowt more than a bloody Tyke and not worth bothering with. When Tony Harrison wrote the poem "Them and Uz" he insisted on the validity of Yorkshire speech as, too, did the inimitable Richard Hoggart in his "Uses of Literacy" in the 1950s and in a string of books beyond. The Angry Young Men (and a few riled women) who erupted into the literary mainstream in the 1960s made a MASSIVE contribution to modernizing the cultural mainstream of the UK and (often overlooked) when the Beatles did the same thing with POP they were, lets not forget, another bunch of Northerners - John Lennon could NEVER have come from Surrey. And then along came Thatcherism and we were all thick Northerners once again having to fight our corner - and still it goes on. Yvonne Fletcher, that ravishing red headed Egyptologist from Barnsley who you will have seen on the TV from time to time, told me how she "had to fight tooth and nail" as both a woman AND a working class YORKSHIREwoman when she was at Oxford to get where she is now. And so it goes on and on and on and, when the media luvvies (funny how Channel 4 is having the same problem with its relocation from London to Leeds as the BBC did when it Went To Salford - "WHAT! You expect me to move UP NORTH???". And odd how such outrage never greeted that arch Tory ###### Norman Tebbit when he advised unemployed Northerners to "get on yer bike" and move South in search of work in the 1970s) wake up to the fact that - hello - there's a HUGE part of England that doesn't give two ###### s about The English because the The English don't give two s about it. And that's Yorkshire. its no coincidence we joined with the rest of the Northern press yesterday with front page tales of GIVE US THE CASH - AND the trains - then we'll do the rest. But no. So we just get on with it and behave like a nation state with its own flag, national day and, yes, we STILL speak English but PEPPERED with dialect. If you don't understand, just ask. We'll either translate for you or nut you. 'Al sithee!
  50. 10 points
    Well, we come on here every week and moan and complain about what is after all just a game, yet there are bigger things in life; so sorry for Kev and family in their loss and a loss to us all really, as she and him were part of the larger Batley family. God bless, let's take Kev under our wing as much as he attempts to keep us all under his.


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