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bobbruce

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On 16/11/2017 at 9:06 AM, Dimitri said:

Is seems simple to you, but it isn't. We live here and as players of an official club, we can't afford playing against the decisions of the Ministry. Our federation and my club are officialy recognised by the ministry of sports for rugby league. If we play in an unofficial tournament with non-official clubs we have no insurance, no legal outcome

That's a RU trick if ever I've heard it. 

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John Rhino

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1 hour ago, TheLegendOfTexEvans said:

Interesting article on a rebel rugby league in Pacific.  It's union, but talk of teams in 

Hong Kong, Singapore, Samoa, Fiji, Japan, .China and Tonga

http://www.scmp.com/sport/rugby/fifteens/article/2119448/talks-strengthen-hopes-hong-kong-entering-team-andrew-forrests

I hope the RLIF report it to Sport Accord and get the whole game expelled 

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GeordieSaint

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9 hours ago, Lounge Room Lizard said:

This group is a disgrace backed by Union. Any League Journos going to investigate them? Seems they are happy to claim they are the World Rugby League International Federation on Facebook. 

RL journos some investigation work?! ???

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RP London

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there is something ironic about RL getting annoyed by a rebel league being set up... makes me smile a little... then get frustrated and annoyed like most other people.. 

 

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The Great Dane

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12 hours ago, TheLegendOfTexEvans said:

Interesting article on a rebel rugby league in Pacific.  It's union, but talk of teams in 

Hong Kong, Singapore, Samoa, Fiji, Japan, .China and Tonga

http://www.scmp.com/sport/rugby/fifteens/article/2119448/talks-strengthen-hopes-hong-kong-entering-team-andrew-forrests

Twiggy Forrests' new comp isn't rebel anymore, it's got the approval of World Rugby and the ARU, both of them are helping Forrest with whatever he needs except money and resources.

It's a moot point anyway cause Twiggy will give up on it once he realises how much it's going to cost to get off the ground and to run it, but even if it does get off the ground it'll only exist as an excuse for the Western Forces continued existence and as an avenue for uber rich men to be able to say that they own a pro rugby club that plays in an international rugby comp, and most of the clubs will be gone in 5 or so years (particularly the clubs that are mooted for the islands) once their owners either go broke or get bored of it.   

I don't see what this has to do with RL anyway... 

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Getmefood

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44 minutes ago, The Great Dane said:

Twiggy Forrests' new comp isn't rebel anymore, it's got the approval of World Rugby and the ARU, both of them are helping Forrest with whatever he needs except money and resources.

It's a moot point anyway cause Twiggy will give up on it once he realises how much it's going to cost to get off the ground and to run it, but even if it does get off the ground it'll only exist as an excuse for the Western Forces continued existence and as an avenue for uber rich men to be able to say that they own a pro rugby club that plays in an international rugby comp, and most of the clubs will be gone in 5 or so years (particularly the clubs that are mooted for the islands) once their owners either go broke or get bored of it.   

I don't see what this has to do with RL anyway... 

Things will have to happen rather quickly, wonder if this will have a positive or negative effect on RU and what that would mean for our code.. Western Force already nabbed Curtis Rona. All sounds too ambitious for RU and just a way to keep the Western Force alive.. imo they'd be better off just switching codes and becoming an NRL club. Shame the NRL aren't too keen on expansion!!!

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yanto

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One of the growing European nations at the moment is Norway.

Little know fact but the Norwegian RL is a sub member of the Norwegian Rugby Union.

Norges Rugbyforbund also oversee Aussie Rules,Gaelic Football , Hurling and wheel chair rugby.

Norway RL get some funding from the "bund".  

Norway are also members of the RLEF .

There are now more League clubs in Norway than union.

Norge RL have members sitting on the board of the Rugbyforbund.

So due to being recognised by the Norwegian Olympic Committee the guys in Norway have been able to grow the game of Rugby League.

LRL you had a fall out with the RLEF because they did'nt understand the way things worked on the ground in Germany,Holland has stood still due to a lack of funding,Belgium,Sweden,Denmark etc etc all get no funding because they are not recognised by their local IOC.

Why have the Italians and Greeks formed a breakaway /rebel group ??

Are both these groups recognised by their IOC ???

In one breath people are always saying union are trying to kill league and now we have a situation were people are saying union are now backing League through this rebel group to stop us getting GIASF/Sport Accord membership. ??

Im confused !!!!!

Bigger conspiracy theory than we never landed on the moon.

 

In the lower tier nations, especially the new developing nations, IOC recognition is vital.

If the local IOC need all oval ball sports under one umbrella (yet they can still be members of the their own governing body ie RLEF) and this opens funding channels is this the end of the world or a means for future development ??

ITS NOT UNION BACKED its IOC regulations in some countries.

RLIF/RLEF have been very slow in getting GIASF/Sport Accord affiliation and I don't blame these rebel groups for sourcing funds by joining their IOC.

I agree its not good for the game having rebel groups setting up  but its maybe a kick up the ###### that the game needs to sort this mess out once and for all.

Norway RL run their own competition are slowly overtaking union in the country (yes believe it or not its true) are members of the RLEF and are growing.This would never have been achievable without aligning with the other ball sports under the Norge Rugbyforbund.

World Rugby League has been on the scene for less than two years...GIASF/Sport Accord have been refusing to affiliate  the game a lot longer.

Instead of looking for more (new) excuses why we are not getting GIASF/Sport Accord its time to look at why the RLIF are failing time after time.

 

 

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Number 16

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20 minutes ago, yanto said:

Instead of looking for more (new) excuses why we are not getting GIASF/Sport Accord its time to look at why the RLIF are failing time after time.

 

 

As ever Yanto, much experience and sense in what you write, however, on the last point you make, the grubby fingerprints of the IRB (or whatever they're called now) are all over the rejections. 

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yanto

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Just now, Number 16 said:

As ever Yanto, much experience and sense in what you write, however, on the last point you make, the grubby fingerprints of the IRB (or whatever they're called now) are all over the rejections. 

Maybe so but that's up to the RLIF to address without making more excuses why we have not been accepted.

Do you really believe union are backing this new rebel group or have they used a bit of local knowledge as a means to get IOC funding.

Maybe the RLEF should be talking to these guys to get them onside and ask them how they have managed to do this instead of pushing them away.Our game needs as much money as we can get from any legit source, especially in the developing nations, if we are to continue to grow.

If the IOC rules in Greece and Italy point to a federation consisting of a number of sports (not just union) being under one umbrella (like in Norway) then these guys are one step ahead of the game.

 

 

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