Regrets

[Futtocks]

Oh great, another "Year Zero" argument for Punk. Hasn't this been done to death already? 

So, let's see what genres had significant market breakthroughs in the Seventies. Prog Rock, Glam Rock, the Singer/Songwriter boom, Heavy Metal, Funk, Reggae, Punk Rock, AOR, Disco, Electronica, Afrobeat, the English Folk Music Revival, Krautrock, Jazz Fusion, Southern Rock, Americana/Alt Country, New Wave and Rap/Hip-Hop. And probably several more.

All of these had lasting effects on the music world that followed, right up to the present day. Only one is always touted as the radical movement that "changed everything". It didn't. The bands that were massive before Punk continued to sell out huge arenas, the singles charts were still dominated by pop and the album charts were full of AOR. Punk had a period of notoriety (both spontaneous and engineered), then became yet another ingredient in the melting pot of popular music.

Yes, you can find a lot of punk attitude in Smells like Teen Spirit, but you can also find chord progressions rather similar to Boston's More than a Feeling.

There are plenty of Punk or Punk-influenced records I love, but I don't pretend to myself that it changed the world forever. It didn't tear down the barricades and put Genesis, Yes and Pink Floyd on the dole. It was what it was, which was exciting and rowdy and raucous and a lot of fun.

And if everything was different after Punk, how come the likes of Simon Cowell can still bag #1 records more or less at will?

[Tongs ya bas]

12 minutes ago, Futtocks said:

Oh great, another "Year Zero" argument for Punk. Hasn't this been done to death already? 

So, let's see what genres had significant market breakthroughs in the Seventies. Prog Rock, Glam Rock, the Singer/Songwriter boom, Heavy Metal, Funk, Reggae, Punk Rock, AOR, Disco, Electronica, Afrobeat, the English Folk Music Revival, Krautrock, Jazz Fusion, Southern Rock, Americana/Alt Country, New Wave and Rap/Hip-Hop. And probably several more.

All of these had lasting effects on the music world that followed, right up to the present day. Only one is always touted as the radical movement that "changed everything". It didn't. The bands that were massive before Punk continued to sell out huge arenas, the singles charts were still dominated by pop and the album charts were full of AOR. Punk had a period of notoriety (both spontaneous and engineered), then became yet another ingredient in the melting pot of popular music.

Yes, you can find a lot of punk attitude in Smells like Teen Spirit, but you can also find chord progressions rather similar to Boston's More than a Feeling.

There are plenty of Punk or Punk-influenced records I love, but I don't pretend to myself that it changed the world forever. It didn't tear down the barricades and put Genesis, Yes and Pink Floyd on the dole. It was what it was, which was exciting and rowdy and raucous and a lot of fun.

And if everything was different after Punk, how come the likes of Simon Cowell can still bag #1 records more or less at will?

What it did for me was that it was ok not to wear flares.

The biggest influences on fashion were disco, northern soul and man made fibres

Black lace and Smokie sold millions and still make a good living

Abba quite rightly were a musical phenomenon.

 

[Bearman]

Regrets.

Not being in Auckland yesterday.

 

[gazza77]

Regrets? I have a few...

[Trojan]

1 hour ago, Tongs ya bas said:

What it did for me was that it was ok not to wear flares.

The biggest influences on fashion were disco, northern soul and man made fibres

Black lace and Smokie sold millions and still make a good living

Abba quite rightly were a musical phenomenon.

 

Abba were arguably the greatest commercial pop group ever.  Everything they did, the did well.  Their lyrics made sense, their arrangements were tight, their tunes were memorable. I have a lot of time for Abba.  But not much time for the rest of the glam rock phenomenon.

[Phil]

7 hours ago, Robin Evans said:

He's not a fax fan tho......

Says who? 

[graveyard johnny]

I regret half the posts I put on here, mostly the ones after coming in from the pub!

[Robin Evans]

2 minutes ago, graveyard johnny said:

I regret half the posts I put on here, mostly the ones after coming in from the pub!

Internet output after alcohol is severely restricted at chateau Ginge!

[gazza77]

Good few years ago, I was offered a trip to San Fransisco with my then gf (now long since ex). Pay for flights, stay with her friends so no accommodation to pay. I turned it down, as I wasn't fussed for visiting the states. Kind of wish I had now, as it's a city I'd like to visit.

[timtum]

On 26/11/2017 at 12:36 PM, Bearman said:

Regrets.

Not being in Auckland yesterday.

 

Regrets?  Having to leave that game with 15 minutes to go....  

 

[Bedford Roughyed]

12 minutes ago, timtum said:

Regrets?  Having to leave that game with 15 minutes to go....  

 

Oh wow.

ckn lock the thread now, its done.

[MattSantos]

1 hour ago, Bedford Roughyed said:

Oh wow.

ckn lock the thread now, its done.

Why!?

Ive lived in Asia a fair bit and still do, wish id learned a martial art or somet 

[Vichyssoise]

Interesting.

I've long come to the conclusion that life's too short to have regrets of any kind.

Things I should/could have done differently? Plenty I reckon. But I'd merely taken another path in the grand scheme of things.

One that may have brought me far from this webs... Well... what were you asking about regrets?

[Tongs ya bas]

5 hours ago, timtum said:

Regrets?  Having to leave that game with 15 minutes to go....  

 

Counselling is available

[Wiltshire Rhino]

Discovering Ericeira, Portugal at the age of 46. I wish I'd gone in my late teens/early 20's and stayed there forever! 

[longboard]

13 minutes ago, Wiltshire Rhino said:

Discovering Ericeira, Portugal at the age of 46. I wish I'd gone in my late teens/early 20's and stayed there forever! 

A bad day at the beach is better than a good day at the office.

[Bleep1673]

I regret texting my ex most nights after having had too much to drink, and insulting her.

[Phil]

On 25/11/2017 at 8:24 PM, GeordieSaint said:

You should have stopped there Phil... ???

I’m glad I didn’t 

[Marauder]

On ‎27‎/‎11‎/‎2017 at 5:05 AM, MattSantos said:

Why!?

Ive lived in Asia a fair bit and still do, wish id learned a martial art or somet 

So you could do sword fencing ?

[Marauder]

On ‎27‎/‎11‎/‎2017 at 7:31 AM, Vichyssoise said:

Interesting.

I've long come to the conclusion that life's too short to have regrets of any kind.

Things I should/could have done differently? Plenty I reckon. But I'd merely taken another path in the grand scheme of things.

One that may have brought me far from this webs... Well... what were you asking about regrets?

I'm the same, I was always told by my dad to never cry over spilt milk, I've spilt a lot and would probably do a few things differently with hindsight.

 I also went to the cubs and jacked in after my first time, I was scared walking home past the local graveyard in the dark.

[Hopping Mad]

On 25 November 2017 at 2:29 PM, RidingPie said:

Ckn it’s interesting that you mention scouts. I have something similar. I joined cubs briefly and was picked on, didn’t mind that so much as most kids are used to a certain level of that. When bugeera (?) started calling me fatso and no discouraging it I voted with my feet and never went back. My mum was furious when she found out about 20 years later. 

At our cubs, Bagheera happened to be the wife of former top RL referee Jim Smith.

Must be something about scouts: I enjoyed cubs but, at scouts, somehow managed to attract the attention of a bully a couple of years older than me. I stayed only 18 months, mainly because (the bullying aside) it was so dull.  All we did was play five-a-side football. I did one badge in 18 months - and had to beg to do that.

Ten years later, my two younger brothers went to the same scouts. In the interim, the leaders had changed. Completely different set-up and outlook. They got to do everything: canoeing, orienteering, climbing, abseiling etc etc. All the stuff I didn't.

One major sporting regret: never going to watch Huyton RL at Alt Park, despite their last season coinciding with my first year at Liverpool University. Oddly, I went to see 'Huyton' at Canal Street, as Runcorn Highfield, several times the following two seasons. 

[Hopping Mad]

6 minutes ago, Marauder said:

 I also went to the cubs and jacked in after my first time, I was scared walking home past the local graveyard in the dark.

Our cubs was in a village hall right next to the graveyard. The walk past it, en route home, long after dark, used to scare me ****less, too.

[JonM]

I've been a leader at cubs for 10 years. Our church hall is in the graveyard and I sometimes have to tell the lads off for climbing on the headstones. They're obviously made of sterner stuff these days.

[Bearman]

When I was 10 I had a mate (Steve) who lived on the far side of the big Coventry municipal cemetery.

We regularly walked to his house and had a choice of going the long way round or taking a short cut through the cemetery. In the winter the gates were locked when it got dark.

So we went in the main gate but the exit gate was always locked when we got to the other side. We would climb onto a railway bridge parapet and we could inch along a 3" brick ledge in the dark and cross the track and so get out of the graveyard.

H&S would have a heart attack today and I must admit I wouldnt like my young grandsons to do it. But things were different then . Neither my parents nor my mates parents ever even asked which route we took from junior school. I cannot remember Steve or myself ever thinking being locked into a graveyard was scary ( lack of imagination?). To me the worst part of the journeywas when I left Steve's was that I had a river to cross. I had a choice of two ways across the river. There was a long concrete square section covered pipe ( easy but long) or a shorter route across a round black pipe which was about 3ft diameter and involved rounding a spiked collar by hanging over the river bank and then balancing across the metal pipe and repeating the squeezing passed the spikes on the far side. I will admit to usually taking the easy route. Only if it was warm, dry and light would I risk the round pipe.

My education was given a boost one evening when I spotted a couple "at it" when I took that route!

 

 

[Billypop]

Iwas foolish enough to date a Palestenian lady. I nearly died.