graveyard johnny Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 as churches get demolished-http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-43385587 see you later undertaker - in a while necrophile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximus Decimus Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 11 minutes ago, graveyard johnny said: as churches get demolished-http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-43385587 Are there no churches with listed status then? A Widnesian in Ireland blog What is the best system for Super League? An honest appraisal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckn Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 12 minutes ago, graveyard johnny said: as churches get demolished-http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-43385587 Easy... if you get offended by this then you’re a racist. Is that the thread finished? "When in deadly danger, when beset by doubt; run in little circles, wave your arms and shout" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Evans Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Don't have a problem with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintslass Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 38 minutes ago, graveyard johnny said: as churches get demolished-http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-43385587 Yes, it's sad IMO. The indigenous folk of this country are just a bunch of heathens. However, there are lots of listed churches around the country and while loads of old churches have closed, some of the biggest ones are in shiny new buildings much better served to a modern community. Proper mosques are beautiful buildings and so I can understand why a couple of those have been listed, along with the one in Liverpool which was the first in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintslass Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 22 minutes ago, ckn said: Easy... if you get offended by this then you’re a racist. Is that the thread finished? Rubbish. White people convert to Islam too, didn't you know that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintslass Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 27 minutes ago, Maximus Decimus said: Are there no churches with listed status then? Yep. Lots of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graveyard johnny Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 I asked for your thoughts- it was u lot with the knee jerk reactions see you later undertaker - in a while necrophile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graveyard johnny Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 58 minutes ago, ckn said: Easy... if you get offended by this then you’re a racist. Is that the thread finished? asked for thoughts without giving a view, knee jerk lefties are out of control on this forum sadly see you later undertaker - in a while necrophile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckn Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 21 minutes ago, graveyard johnny said: asked for thoughts without giving a view, knee jerk lefties are out of control on this forum sadly Those were my thoughts. Just because you don’t like them doesn’t make them invalid. "When in deadly danger, when beset by doubt; run in little circles, wave your arms and shout" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graveyard johnny Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 8 minutes ago, ckn said: Those were my thoughts. Just because you don’t like them doesn’t make them invalid. I respect u as a mod mate- I know your having a tough time too- just don't go loony left pal see you later undertaker - in a while necrophile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graveyard johnny Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 16 minutes ago, ckn said: Those were my thoughts. Just because you don’t like them doesn’t make them invalid. did I say I didn't like anyones thoughts? see you later undertaker - in a while necrophile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Futtocks Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, graveyard johnny said: did I say I didn't like anyones thoughts? Phrases like "knee jerk lefties" aren't usually used as a term of endearment. Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted. Ralph Waldo Emerson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintslass Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 8 minutes ago, Futtocks said: Phrases like "knee jerk lefties" aren't usually used as a term of endearment. I suppose that may depend on your point of view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckn Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 22 minutes ago, graveyard johnny said: I respect u as a mod mate- I know your having a tough time too- just don't go loony left pal Thanks. My views have been thoroughly that way since the 80s though. Where I went to school as a teenager, they literally had the last Communist Party councillor in the UK retire only a couple of years ago. I was schooled in the brutal nature of Tory cuts and the incompetence of the idealist left and developed my own left-ish pragmatic intolerance of prejudice and the lazy racism of many in the UK. As an idea of my upbringing influences in mining areas, the milk at schools was cut in my school when I was about 6 or 7, I asked the teacher where it was and she said “Maggie Thatcher stole it”, for years I genuinely believed that she had sneaked into the school and physically stolen our milk. "When in deadly danger, when beset by doubt; run in little circles, wave your arms and shout" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowes Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 2 hours ago, Saintslass said: Rubbish. White people convert to Islam too, didn't you know that? There have been white Muslims for a long time in places like Bosnia and Albania Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 hour ago, graveyard johnny said: asked for thoughts without giving a view, knee jerk lefties are out of control on this forum sadly You’ve previously described yourself as a nationalist on this forum, now you’ve come out with some kindergarten racism, how are we bleeding heart commie liberals supposed to react to you? "Freedom without socialism is privilege and injustice, socialism without freedom is slavery and brutality" - Mikhail Bakunin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graveyard johnny Posted March 14, 2018 Author Share Posted March 14, 2018 I was actually raising the architectural value of the buildings of Britain, fantastic stone mills, churches etc are left to rack and ruin and demolished in the blink of an eye while structures of the 60s 70s and 80s are given this status for what? I don't see what that has to do with racism, if it was a multi story car park or a supermarket I would raise the same question. see you later undertaker - in a while necrophile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob8 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 10 hours ago, graveyard johnny said: as churches get demolished-http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-43385587 I am one of the few on this thread who goes to Church. I have no problem with it. Clearly, some Mosques and Churches should get heritage status. Some Churches will be knocked down, as they are unused, particularly with declining Church attendance rates and with depopulation in some areas. 10 hours ago, Saintslass said: Yes, it's sad IMO. The indigenous folk of this country are just a bunch of heathens. However, there are lots of listed churches around the country and while loads of old churches have closed, some of the biggest ones are in shiny new buildings much better served to a modern community. Proper mosques are beautiful buildings and so I can understand why a couple of those have been listed, along with the one in Liverpool which was the first in the UK. Actually, Saintslass put it better than I did. "You clearly have never met Bob8 then, he's like a veritable Bryan Ferry of RL." - Johnoco 19 Jul 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 The Regent's Park mosque is an impressive building. Not surprised to see it listed. If one is genuinely concerned about what happens to old churches then the Churches Conservation Trust is an excellent organisation (yes, I've supported them in then past) and could always use donations and help, or you could visit some of their splendid sites. Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 27 minutes ago, graveyard johnny said: I was actually raising the architectural value of the buildings of Britain, fantastic stone mills, churches etc are left to rack and ruin and demolished in the blink of an eye while structures of the 60s 70s and 80s are given this status for what? I don't see what that has to do with racism, if it was a multi story car park or a supermarket I would raise the same question. You never mentioned any of this. You positioned it as Churches v Mosques Dont complain now that you got the reaction you were fishing for in the first place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 6 hours ago, graveyard johnny said: I was actually raising the architectural value of the buildings of Britain, fantastic stone mills, churches etc are left to rack and ruin and demolished in the blink of an eye while structures of the 60s 70s and 80s are given this status for what? I don't see what that has to do with racism, if it was a multi story car park or a supermarket I would raise the same question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 6 hours ago, graveyard johnny said: I was actually raising the architectural value of the buildings of Britain, fantastic stone mills, churches etc are left to rack and ruin and demolished in the blink of an eye while structures of the 60s 70s and 80s are given this status for what? I don't see what that has to do with racism, if it was a multi story car park or a supermarket I would raise the same question. Or, if you prefer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidingPie Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 The church could afford to look after all the churches if it wanted to. It just knows some only get a handful of people in a week. Remember it is tax exempt, worth about £8billion and automatically gets a number of bishops in the House of Lords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedford Roughyed Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, Shadow said: Or, if you prefer I don't get that one With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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