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Got my NHS text today...3 months chokey for me now! Was actualy waiting for my pre chemo assessment and scan result when I got it. St Barts hospital and surrounding area was well weird...I was waiting for the plague pits to burst into life again!! On the plus side my scan result was "brilliant" according to my consultant and have now had my chemo suspended for a couple of months!

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I completed a 7 day cycle of self isolation after developing a dry cough.  I have no idea if I actually had the virus or not as following the guidelines I kept away from contact with Health professionals.

My symptoms developed into a tightening of the chest so I waited 9 days for all to clear before breaking my curfew for a much needed shop.  I did this late in the evening and managed to purchase enough food for nutritious meals to last a week and observed the social distancing.
 

Yesterday, late afternoon, I acted on a hunch that it would be a good time to shop for my elderly father who is living with my sister who is also self isolating for the initial 12 week recommended period.  Going across two supermarkets, I managed to pick up their full shopping list including toilet roll.  I even snuck in a few treats for them to make the time pass more easily.

Being able to do this for them regularly is now my biggest fear and I would welcome a systematic process for people like myself so I am not at the mercy of the law as to whether I am outside in the car for kicks or trying to do the right thing.  At the moment there is a long backlog for home delivery slots for their local supermarkets.

Anyone else in the same boat?

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8 hours ago, ckn said:

Here's the specific guidance.

Including:

"hotels, hostels, bed and breakfasts, campsites, caravan parks, and boarding houses for commercial/leisure use (excluding permanent residents and key workers)."

So I guess folk will be turfed out in the morning whether they have anywhere to go or not.

There are a lot of "holiday parks" around here with 51 week a year 'seasons'. A few years ago, Rother Council forgot that it was meant to be turning a blind eye and started looking into whether the people there should be paying council tax. The rule of the camp is that it's not your main residence but, well, y'know ... 

After a bit of a kerfuffle, the local councils went back to pretending that the people there weren't there all the time and that they must have a main home somewhere else.

Now, if these places are closing ...

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6 hours ago, Gray1967 said:

Got my NHS text today...3 months chokey for me now! Was actualy waiting for my pre chemo assessment and scan result when I got it. St Barts hospital and surrounding area was well weird...I was waiting for the plague pits to burst into life again!! On the plus side my scan result was "brilliant" according to my consultant and have now had my chemo suspended for a couple of months!

That is a very definite plus. All the best and stay safe.

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This morning. Groups of kids already out in the park.

Another group of blokes all congregating outside of the paper shop.

A shop that should be closed.... isn't.... or isn't yet.

This is why I have little faith in these measures being adhered to.

large swathes of the populous have an entirely different mindset to those in spain etc. Tell some Brits what to do and they will do just the opposite..... just cos they can. Not enough police to sort this. Nowhere near enough. 

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This morning. Groups of kids already out in the park.

Another group of blokes all congregating outside of the paper shop.

A shop that should be closed.... isn't.... or isn't yet.

This is why I have little faith in these measures being adhered to.

large swathes of the populous have an entirely different mindset to those in spain etc. Tell some Brits what to do and they will do just the opposite..... just cos they can. Not enough police to sort this. Nowhere near enough. 

I've seen it written that corner shops can stay open?

The rest ... *waves arms in general imitation of stupidity*

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7 minutes ago, Robin Evans said:

This morning. Groups of kids already out in the park.

Another group of blokes all congregating outside of the paper shop.

A shop that should be closed.... isn't.... or isn't yet.

This is why I have little faith in these measures being adhered to.

large swathes of the populous have an entirely different mindset to those in spain etc. Tell some Brits what to do and they will do just the opposite..... just cos they can. Not enough police to sort this. Nowhere near enough. 

Groups of kids at 7am in the morning! Im amazed. Any kid I know has to be practically kicked out of bed if they are to be up before 10am.

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Kids who live with separated parents are to stay with the one they are currently at. 

I assume many families will make the decision that they won't adhere to that. If we are able to still speak to a different checkout worker a couple of times a week I expect it will be a risk worth taking for parents. 

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5 minutes ago, Dave T said:

Kids who live with separated parents are to stay with the one they are currently at. 

Gove has just admitted he was wrong on that. There is an exception for separated children under 18.

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41 minutes ago, Robin Evans said:

This morning. Groups of kids already out in the park.

Another group of blokes all congregating outside of the paper shop.

A shop that should be closed.... isn't.... or isn't yet.

This is why I have little faith in these measures being adhered to.

large swathes of the populous have an entirely different mindset to those in spain etc. Tell some Brits what to do and they will do just the opposite..... just cos they can. Not enough police to sort this. Nowhere near enough. 

The police can’t do anything yet except advise you to go home.  No law yet passed to give them any powers.

With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!

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5 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

Gove has just admitted he was wrong on that. There is an exception for separated children under 18.

Outstanding communication yet again. 

I have a FB friend with mental health challenges and he is already in free fall over this advice that Hove got wrong. 

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This is only a part lockdown, only essential shops can stay open, B&Q. Sports Direct,W.H. Smiths are these essential. Only go out once a day with your family if you live in the same house,.How long will it take before a parent tells the kids to get ready we are going out for the day to the coast. Officer,I have only been out once,I came out at 8 o clock this morning and I am now going back home. It is only half past seven it is still light.Go out for a walk or a run, Officer I am running a marathon today,or I am going on a 50 mile bike ride,100 mile there and back.

Only go out for essentials, Officer I am going to the paper shop,I can not live without my Daily Mirror.An absolute joke of a lockdown,only use public transport if you are going to work,so,this mornings tubes packed again.As somebody posted earlier,how in gods name can anybody patrol this farce.

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It's really not helping the government that we have yet another gorgeous sunny day out there and this is following weeks of biblically bad storms.

That's no excuse at all but everyone was already a little stir crazy.

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34 minutes ago, fairfolly said:

This is only a part lockdown, only essential shops can stay open, B&Q. Sports Direct,W.H. Smiths are these essential. Only go out once a day with your family if you live in the same house,.How long will it take before a parent tells the kids to get ready we are going out for the day to the coast. Officer,I have only been out once,I came out at 8 o clock this morning and I am now going back home. It is only half past seven it is still light.Go out for a walk or a run, Officer I am running a marathon today,or I am going on a 50 mile bike ride,100 mile there and back.

Only go out for essentials, Officer I am going to the paper shop,I can not live without my Daily Mirror.An absolute joke of a lockdown,only use public transport if you are going to work,so,this mornings tubes packed again.As somebody posted earlier,how in gods name can anybody patrol this farce.

Right, we know how you will act. Not everyone is like you.

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48 minutes ago, Dave T said:

Outstanding communication yet again. 

I have a FB friend with mental health challenges and he is already in free fall over this advice that Hove got wrong. 

Without brining politics into this,  did you see Gove's interview.?

He was very very very clear. He said he'd got in wrong on Good Morning Britain (I think that was the  prog he was on earlier  on.)

His admission and correction was very very clear.

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Taking to our French friends in Vichy yesterday. They live in an apartment in the city centre. She is not allowed out at all. He is allowed out. Each time he goes out he has to take a new attestation with him, signed, dated, and with one purpose only ticked. Can't go to the pharmacy AND do necessary supplies shopping on the same trip, for example. 

Since the rules were introduced a week ago, he has not been ckecked by the police at all. Indeed, he's not seen any.

However, they are guarding the lakeside garden and paths and checking everyone.

Outside the towns,  you get the Gendarmes,  a branch of the army.  They are armed and not to be argued with.

Our police seem to be trying to be too friendly and liked. What we need now is a bit of authority from them.

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