GUBRATS Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Same teams again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Frisky Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, GUBRATS said: Same teams again Not often you complain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted November 20, 2020 Author Share Posted November 20, 2020 We see on here that the sport is dying , well ending up with the usual suspects in the final is all part of the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hela Wigmen Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, GUBRATS said: We see on here that the sport is dying , well ending up with the usual suspects in the final is all part of the problem No, the reason the sport “dying” is ###### opinions like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 It's a salary capped sport (at not a huge value). If the same teams compete in the Grand Final then it isn't the teams in it that need to be addressed but the teams who didn't qualify. "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 10 minutes ago, GUBRATS said: We see on here that the sport is dying , well ending up with the usual suspects in the final is all part of the problem The solution is to vote Leigh into SL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbruce Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 19 minutes ago, GUBRATS said: Same teams again You don’t want any new teams to join in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 8 minutes ago, GUBRATS said: We see on here that the sport is dying , well ending up with the usual suspects in the final is all part of the problem The sport is dying because more than half of Superleague are more concerned with surviving in the league than striving to better themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted November 20, 2020 Author Share Posted November 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dunbar said: It's a salary capped sport (at not a huge value). If the same teams compete in the Grand Final then it isn't the teams in it that need to be addressed but the teams who didn't qualify. Correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted November 20, 2020 Author Share Posted November 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Davo5 said: The sport is dying because more than half of Superleague are more concerned with surviving in the league than striving to better themselves. You mean by winning games ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 1 minute ago, GUBRATS said: You mean by winning games ? No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Plow Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Clubs with the biggest fan base, most money and best academies win SL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted November 20, 2020 Author Share Posted November 20, 2020 Just now, Mr Plow said: Clubs with the biggest fan base, most money and best academies win SL We desperately need a ' Leicester ' IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerrumonside ref Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, GUBRATS said: We desperately need a ' Leicester ' IMO Salford and Castleford? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Plow Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 12 minutes ago, GUBRATS said: We desperately need a ' Leicester ' IMO I’d love a new winner but as long as it’s a great game does it really matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fevrover Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 22 minutes ago, Davo5 said: The sport is dying because more than half of Superleague are more concerned with surviving in the league than striving to better themselves. And getting their new grounds ready !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayCee Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 33 minutes ago, GUBRATS said: We see on here that the sport is dying , well ending up with the usual suspects in the final is all part of the problem Bayern Munich stroll to win each BL, Juve have won the past nine Serie A titles, traditionally La Liga has been a two horse race between Barca and RM. I like to see different winners but it isn't very often in soccer yet the fans turn up in droves. There are other problems that affect popularity but with this one Gubrats, you're barking up the wrong tree. My blog: https://rugbyl.blogspot.co.nz/ It takes wisdom to know when a discussion has run its course. It takes reasonableness to end that discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulga Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 There's been a lot of talk about the smaller clubs that don't really bring anything to the table except nostalgia. I want to hear from Leeds, Saints and Wigan fans. What do you think of competing against the same 2 teams year in, year out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerrumonside ref Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 It’s the two best teams, loaded with exciting players to watch, facing off in our showcase finale to the league season. There’s a lot to be positive about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giasf Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Comparative statistics: Both the SL and NRL Grand Finals were first played in 1998. Since 1998, only one of the 16 NRL teams has never appeared in an NRL GF; Gold Coast Titans (94%). Since 1998, of the 11 current Super League teams only 7 of them have played in a SL GF (64%). If you account for the clubs that have previously played in SL but have subsequently been relegated (Bradford, London, Halifax, Sheffield, Crusaders, Leigh and Gateshead) that becomes 8 teams out of a possible 18 (44%). (Toronto, PSG, Workington and Oldham) did not get chance to contest a SL GF for obvious reasons) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 The fact that the 3 most successful sides Wigan,Saints & Leeds usually field teams containing the most homegrown players tells a story,invest in youth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxford Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Isn't it fascinating how easily we fall into two armed camps over issues? On the one hand the OP is an old argument but so is the idea other teams need to catch up is probably even older. 2 warning points Non-Political Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatmichaelsays Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 16 minutes ago, Pulga said: There's been a lot of talk about the smaller clubs that don't really bring anything to the table except nostalgia. I want to hear from Leeds, Saints and Wigan fans. What do you think of competing against the same 2 teams year in, year out? At the end of the day, I just want to see my team in the final and, ideally, for the final to be a good game. I'm not going to shed a tear for clubs that can't sort themselves out and compete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 26 minutes ago, Pulga said: There's been a lot of talk about the smaller clubs that don't really bring anything to the table except nostalgia. I want to hear from Leeds, Saints and Wigan fans. What do you think of competing against the same 2 teams year in, year out? Don't care, the others aren't good enough, they should strive to join the club at the top not bring us down to their level. That said Warrington should have won one by now as really should Hull FC and maybe Catalans (who have all won cups). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hela Wigmen Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 34 minutes ago, Pulga said: There's been a lot of talk about the smaller clubs that don't really bring anything to the table except nostalgia. I want to hear from Leeds, Saints and Wigan fans. What do you think of competing against the same 2 teams year in, year out? In the past year or so, we’ll have played three finals, each of them against a different club and only against one of the two sides you mention above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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