Old Frightful Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 New assistant coach at Wakey. Good luck to the lad. Hull FC....The Sons of God... (Well, we are about to be crucified on Good Friday) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hela Wigmen Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Read yesterday that Lee Gilmour was due to join Leeds on their coaching staff, Covid hit, they pulled the deal, moved for Sean Long and Gilly is out of a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleD Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Good move for him, will experience a different environment/culture and also puts himself in prime position to take on the Head Coach role, should Chester not work out long term Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxford Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Unlucky at Hull and a change of scene is best. 2 warning points Non-Political Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MZH Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 49 minutes ago, DoubleD said: Good move for him, will experience a different environment/culture and also puts himself in prime position to take on the Head Coach role, should Chester not work out long term That was my first thought when I saw it. They might be calling this the Wakefield assistant job, but actually you can probably just call it Wakefield head coach starting in July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sentoffagain2 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 I think he was unlucky not to get another year at HullFC.Although a contract for just one year would not suit him or the club.I wish him all the best at Wakey as an extention of his coaching carreer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMEGA Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Hela Wigmen said: Read yesterday that Lee Gilmour was due to join Leeds on their coaching staff, Covid hit, they pulled the deal, moved for Sean Long and Gilly is out of a job. Almost but didn’t quite happen that way. He applied for the Leeds Assistant job and was declined by Agar, Wakefield found out he’d applied for a job at a rival club and told him if he didn’t see his future at Wakefield his services were no longer required and sacked him/let him go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 From Hull’s head coach (albeit interim) to Wakey’s assistant, gutted for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rioman Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 hour ago, MZH said: That was my first thought when I saw it. They might be calling this the Wakefield assistant job, but actually you can probably just call it Wakefield head coach starting in July. What about Willie Poching who is also at the club as an assistant coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Seems a talented young coach and did a top job in difficult circumstances last season,hopefully a change will help him push on in his development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirmonds pouch Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 4 hours ago, MZH said: That was my first thought when I saw it. They might be calling this the Wakefield assistant job, but actually you can probably just call it Wakefield head coach starting in July. Well it's dim witted one. Hats off to Chester, he's signed up two coaches and they are definitely his choices, who are a potential threat to him but he has done so because he wants the backroom to improve drastically. Not many coaches would risk that but if it pays off Chester is made for life, if not he's out but that would be the case regardless if he fails this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirmonds pouch Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Rioman said: What about Willie Poching who is also at the club as an assistant coach? I think you can have more than one assistant, either that or Poching hasn't worked out. I suspect though it's the former and the two will have slightly different roles. Poching will possibly be more player performance orientated across all the teams reporting to both Chester and the BOD, whilst Last will probably be more Chesters right hand man. I'm only speculating based on what I know of the two. Bit like Kear and Gilmore used to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rioman Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 21 minutes ago, Kirmonds pouch said: I think you can have more than one assistant, either that or Poching hasn't worked out. I suspect though it's the former and the two will have slightly different roles. Poching will possibly be more player performance orientated across all the teams reporting to both Chester and the BOD, whilst Last will probably be more Chesters right hand man. I'm only speculating based on what I know of the two. Bit like Kear and Gilmore used to be. What I was trying to say to the poster was, don't assume Last would walk into the coach's job if Chester left, as we also have another decent assistant in Willie Poaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Taylor Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Is Stuart Dickens still at Wakefield? 2008 RFL Wakefield & District Young Volunteer of the Year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ullman Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 6 hours ago, Old Frightful said: New assistant coach at Wakey. Good luck to the lad. Seconded. Hope it works out for him. "I'm from a fishing family. Trawlermen are like pirates with biscuits." - Lucy Beaumont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirmonds pouch Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 15 minutes ago, Rioman said: What I was trying to say to the poster was, don't assume Last would walk into the coach's job if Chester left, as we also have another decent assistant in Willie Poaching. Fair enough, it's a formidable backroom, I don't think many can deny that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graveyard johnny Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 25 minutes ago, Chris Taylor said: Is Stuart Dickens still at Wakefield? not sure but charles dickens seems to be- every season starts with "great expectations" and ends with "hard times" see you later undertaker - in a while necrophile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MZH Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Kirmonds pouch said: Well it's dim witted one. Hats off to Chester, he's signed up two coaches and they are definitely his choices, who are a potential threat to him but he has done so because he wants the backroom to improve drastically. Not many coaches would risk that but if it pays off Chester is made for life, if not he's out but that would be the case regardless if he fails this season. Just to clarify I don't think it's a bad move from Chester's pov, and I don't think Last coming in puts Chester under any more pressure than he's already under. What I mean is that I expect Chester to get sacked this season, and when he does I expect Andy Last will be the guy that replaces him. Hence its a good move for Last. Chester is under pressure already. A lot of Wakefield fans have been calling for his head for some time. If you start poorly and look to be heading for a relegation battle he won't last long. I'm sure that's not how Last is thinking BTW. He will want to do his best in the assistant job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowdesert Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 8 hours ago, Old Frightful said: New assistant coach at Wakey. Good luck to the lad. Yes indeed and well said. Andy will certainly give his all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMEGA Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 4 hours ago, Kirmonds pouch said: Well it's dim witted one. Hats off to Chester, he's signed up two coaches and they are definitely his choices, who are a potential threat to him but he has done so because he wants the backroom to improve drastically. Not many coaches would risk that but if it pays off Chester is made for life, if not he's out but that would be the case regardless if he fails this season. I think both Chester and Carter have been chastened by the 5 wins in 36 games record that Chester had until the 3 wins on the bump papered over the cracks. Chester will not be sacked but there will be a managed promotion to Football Manager/Director and Andy Last will probably step up to Head Coach. While this will no doubt happen to Chester’s timeline I’m sure that Last has been promised the top job within a fairly short timescale maybe 1 season possibly 2. Why else would Andy Last leave a guaranteed assistants job with a bigger club like Hull also his hometown club to join Wakefield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris22 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Best of luck to him. Thought he was unlucky not to get a shot at the Hull FC job. I don't see what credentials Hodgson possesses that Last did not, apart from an Aussie accent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleD Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 hour ago, OMEGA said: I think both Chester and Carter have been chastened by the 5 wins in 36 games record that Chester had until the 3 wins on the bump papered over the cracks. Chester will not be sacked but there will be a managed promotion to Football Manager/Director and Andy Last will probably step up to Head Coach. While this will no doubt happen to Chester’s timeline I’m sure that Last has been promised the top job within a fairly short timescale maybe 1 season possibly 2. Why else would Andy Last leave a guaranteed assistants job with a bigger club like Hull also his hometown club to join Wakefield Because if Last knew he wouldn’t get the top job at Hull FC then there’s no future for him (given he wants to be a head coach). Therefore a sideways move is in his interest and it’s funny how your stock often rises when you move on from an employer - they often don’t realise what they’re missing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramon Rojo Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 11 hours ago, Chris22 said: Best of luck to him. Thought he was unlucky not to get a shot at the Hull FC job. I don't see what credentials Hodgson possesses that Last did not, apart from an Aussie accent. Totally agree. It was an extremely harsh, dare I say desperate, decision to ditch Mr Last from the Hull job, he safely saved a sinking ship and guided it back to port for close season repairs. Why get rid of such a loyal Hull FC guy on the back of 1 under par performance in the playoffs, especially as it was individual player performances that let Andy down, not his tactics. I sincerely wish Andy Last all the very best at Wakefield, it's a great addition for them. It may not necessarily be at Wakey but I've every confidence Andy will be a successful head coach in our game, it could be sooner than you think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirmonds pouch Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 17 hours ago, Saint 1 said: Not sure I would agree with this. I think most (if not all) coaches would want their assistants to be people they thought capable of being head coaches. Developing junior coaches is a big part of being a (decent) coach. True but not quite that capable, I think you have to be a touch realistic, as has been pointed out both these guys are potential straight in replacements, especially Last. With all due respect I know my club better than you, I'm hardly on the BOD but all the same. Trinity have fundamentally had the same coaching set up since Harbin and then McNally implemented the changes in 2002/2004. One all powerful Coach and a local lad and number of ex players helping out. This was of course mainly down to money, the lack of. The only time t wasn't the case was when Kear joined Trinity to help Chester in 2017 and 2018, arguably our best SL seasons. Now injuries permitting we have strong squad and some really promising youngsters, this despite the poor results over the last 18 month, we all know the main reasons why. As a club though we don't have the resources to buy the players to move us up the next stage, even if we do have an injury free season we will only be top 6 at best, so the only thing we can do is improve the structures. Truth is both Poching and Last will cost less than one good NRL player and probably be far more effective. Trinity have needed a root and branch re-build for years, this I believe is it, if it goes right it along with the stadium re-build will be the making of the club. Not predicting titles or cups any time soon, but tangible improvements all the same, we will be competitive on a far more regular basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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