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Sat 10th Sept: SL: Huddersfield Giants v Salford Red Devils KO 13:00 (Sky & Channel 4)


Who will win?  

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  1. 1. Who will win?

    • Huddersfield Giants
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  • Poll closed on 10/09/22 at 12:00

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6 minutes ago, Damien said:

His assessment of Fages, you know the person under discussion. You obviously disagree, that's fine.

I hadn't checked but my instinct was that Bibey was not a player who had won any grand finals.

It was Challenge Cups he won I think with Wigan? 

It will be interesting to see Fages play for France in the world cup, hopefully he will be fit.

 

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1 hour ago, Pete Grady said:

Watson .has reached the limit of his ability.

Afterall, he's had about 4 weeks since we beat them at the JJB and he couldn't find a way to fix the problem today, he's just a one trick pony: strangle  the opposition  with territory and force a mistake.  Today proves he's 'old hat' and Salford have moved things on in a way he has no answer to. 

Richard Marshall is looking for work.

 

Pete (or whatever your real name is).

1) The JJB? Even Wigan don't play their anymore!🤔

2) Are you genuinely a Salford fan? If you are, try not to be a Richard and put us all in a bad light eh? There's a good chap.😁

We're generally a decent bunch so trying to antagonise on here won't endear you to our fans, never mind the rest of the forum.👍

 

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26 minutes ago, Stanley30 said:

Park it, your off topic

We were having a discussion about the performance of Fages in the game.

I watched the game just now, hence my late opinions. Sneyd was obviously the stand out player in the game, Croft too. 

Maybe the Salford coach allows his half backs more spontaneity? Fages had obviously been told to kick high to the left on the last tackle and followed this instruction. It didn't work.

I think Croft has been outstanding, the breaks he makes are numerous and result in tries. 

He will be an enormous miss but we are all aware of this.

 

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5 hours ago, daz39 said:

Congratulations and good luck to them, back to the drawing board for us!

Your draughtsman does not draw as well as a lot of people thinks he does, stereo type play that a lot of opposition coaches have commented on, that is the reason for your end of season form, club's have learned how to play you 

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I think Salford will beat Saints next Saturday. If Percy, Hopoate, Mata’utia do play they’ll not be match fit, but if they don’t play them then i fear Davies & Matautia will be playing out wide which doesn’t fill me up with much hope because  we lack pace. As for kicks in general play that is another area were we will struggle, Saints kicking game is awful.
It should be an exciting game and im looking forward to it. If we win I’ll be over the moon, if we lose i will be devastated, but with Salford being the most entertaining side too watch in 2022 id like like to see them lift the GF. 

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7 hours ago, Pete Grady said:

Harrodsfield with Watson are one dimensional. 

Whilst King, Blease and not least, Paul Rowley have raised the bar in what can be achieved by promoting the ball with confidence and running a club on a shoestring.

I feel a big change has been made in the way The Greatest Game is played and my beloved Salford are miles ahead of the rest.

 

You( and a lot of other Salford fans) need to let go of your obsession with Huddersfield and enjoy what Salford give you, seriously.

You were fckin superb today, try and enjoy that 👍

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Salford were superb today, on and off the field 👏👏👏 

You are a joy to watch when you click, in fact I'd say Salford are easily the best team I've seen this season, I really hope you go on and win thing now 👍

As for Huddersfield, I said weeks ago we were done, we finished 3rd but scraped wins when not playing well, out of the 6 teams in the play offs, we were the weakest in terms of form and it showed today, we were terrible, in every aspect of the game, we were outclassed, outenthsed, out everything by a rampant Salford who I honestly believe can be crowned champions in a couple of weeks and will be thoroughly deserved.

As for us, as Ken Davy said after that game, and as he says nearly every year, a step too far, maybe next year?

I'm proud of what Huddersfield Giants and Ian Watson has done this season but sadly we were found out in the end but whoever thought Huddersfield would finish 3rd and almost win the cup would have been locked up in February.

 

Finally, echo what Daz said, Salford's support was awesome but where the heck are they when SRD are at home?

Good luck Salford, go and win it 👍

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1 hour ago, Niels said:

I hadn't checked but my instinct was that Bibey was not a player who had won any grand finals.

It was Challenge Cups he won I think with Wigan? 

It will be interesting to see Fages play for France in the world cup, hopefully he will be fit.

 

Yeah you're right, I thought he was at Saints longer than he was (though he did win a CC there). 

I think Fages will look solid for France, I think it's rare he plays badly. He's just almost always going to be a 6-7/10 because of his limitations.

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6 hours ago, Ant said:

Very much agree with what Daz said, but anyone who thinks the Giants are dull and predictable needs to take their head out their backside, and maybe stop listening to abysmal commentary teams. 

Awful today, poor for the last few weeks but 4th best attack in the league, try scorers all over the park and some absolute belters scored this season 

Awful end to a bloody great season 

Yes, without being able to put my finger on it I've been impressed and entertained by Huddersfield,like no other this season. Loved watching them. So yes a poor ending which has not done them justice but that's sport. Still we have the St PieLoins once again to......tbh can't be borissed......

Well Done Huddersfield and Salford. Breath of fresh air.

Dont worry 

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23 minutes ago, V02 said:

Yeah you're right, I thought he was at Saints longer than he was (though he did win a CC there). 

I think Fages will look solid for France, I think it's rare he plays badly. He's just almost always going to be a 6-7/10 because of his limitations.

Thanks. I think Croft and Sneyd were both unplayable today against him. They would have defeated most teams I think.

Do you support Salford?

I saw the highlights when Salford beat St Helens and Croft was outstanding, making so many breaks.

I was really disappointed when he failed his HIA. 

 

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Daz and Meast have said all that needs to be said about Huddersfield, today and the season. I feel for their fans and club. They've had numerous coaches, and players of course, whilst I've been over here, so I'm not sure how they go about fixing anything. I've seen them play champagne rugby league, I've seen them play at their worst, under every coach and whichever players. I hope one day they don't have such an up and down season, and their loyal fans and Ken Davy etc get to celebrate in style.

Salford were on fire today and I hope like others they go even further - good luck. I have good friends at both clubs but my support today was for Salford being a Lancashire lass. I have to say that I've always found Huddersfield fans to be great people, they know their rugby and they're great sports, but just like the team, they never seem 100% up for it, in an already defeated before kick off kind of way. And after the match, it's an ah well, that was typical, on we go attitude. Maybe it's me, but I don't see the drive to win. Or maybe it's the best approach, don't get too giddy, don't be rude to opposition, mature.....I don't know... I'm rambling now and it is 2:20 am, so I'll leave it there.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, amm said:

Daz and Meast have said all that needs to be said about Huddersfield, today and the season. I feel for their fans and club. They've had numerous coaches, and players of course, whilst I've been over here, so I'm not sure how they go about fixing anything. I've seen them play champagne rugby league, I've seen them play at their worst, under every coach and whichever players. I hope one day they don't have such an up and down season, and their loyal fans and Ken Davy etc get to celebrate in style.

Salford were on fire today and I hope like others they go even further - good luck. I have good friends at both clubs but my support today was for Salford being a Lancashire lass. I have to say that I've always found Huddersfield fans to be great people, they know their rugby and they're great sports, but just like the team, they never seem 100% up for it, in an already defeated before kick off kind of way. And after the match, it's an ah well, that was typical, on we go attitude. Maybe it's me, but I don't see the drive to win. Or maybe it's the best approach, don't get too giddy, don't be rude to opposition, mature.....I don't know... I'm rambling now and it is 2:20 am, so I'll leave it there.

 

 

I agree with you. I think all the players just had a bad game collectively. 

Overall they finished third and reached the challenge cup final. This shows they were consistently outstanding over a long period.

If I had to be critical I think they lacked pace in the backs today.

I think they deserve to be judged by the season as a whole as opposed to one game. 

 

 

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Suggestions that Premier League football matches could face disruption next weekend due to the need to focus the country’s policing on the upcoming state funeral.

If this does happen then St Helens vs Salford next week could get a bigger push by the broadcasters than normal reaching a deserved wider audience.

As you all know, the storylines are great with a hurting champion side chasing history against the new pretenders playing with much elan and maybe with one eye on revenge too.

Usually these are the ingredients for a great game.

Whatever the outcome, the chance to face the household name of Wigan and the former gold standard (plus arch-rivals of the champs St Helens), or Leeds, biggest club in UK rugby league by some measures and home of the new enthusiastic broadcaster in C4.

We talk about the media narrative and the excitement other sports generate.  It is all there for us this year (although admittedly the sad circumstances aren’t ones you’d wish for).  A chance to really showcase the sport.

 

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12 hours ago, ShropshireBull said:

Thats a stretch, Giants are a strong team and solid at grounding out results, cup semi where they dismantled KR . Just didnt seem to know how to chase a game.

My point exactly. Croft would have continued to run the ragged and as they got more tired the Red Devils would have run in more points

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7 hours ago, V02 said:

Yeah you're right, I thought he was at Saints longer than he was (though he did win a CC there). 

I think Fages will look solid for France, I think it's rare he plays badly. He's just almost always going to be a 6-7/10 because of his limitations.

He did win the cup at Saints. 

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9 hours ago, Harry Stottle said:

Your draughtsman does not draw as well as a lot of people thinks he does, stereo type play that a lot of opposition coaches have commented on, that is the reason for your end of season form, club's have learned how to play you 

Our end of season form has seen us pick up wins, the Cup final defeat was a huge mental blow to us as a team and club, i don't think we've played well or recovered from that at all this year, plus we were beaten by a far better side on the day, i doubt any Fartowner will argue against that, i was praising Salford and being critical of my own team.

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51 minutes ago, daz39 said:

Our end of season form has seen us pick up wins, the Cup final defeat was a huge mental blow to us as a team and club, i don't think we've played well or recovered from that at all this year, plus we were beaten by a far better side on the day, i doubt any Fartowner will argue against that, i was praising Salford and being critical of my own team.

Yes I know you were and very commendable for doing so, I was pointing out that I do not think that your coach is as good as a lot of people believe him to be, he was very ably assisted by Paul Rowley at Salford.

Watson had been the Salford coach for 3 or 4 years and they had just kept there head above the relegation tide mark, Rowley joins them and their whole style of football changed was that just a coincidence? Being a Leigh fan and witnessing first hand how Leigh under Rowley played the game I would say not, this present Salford team are playing the same way as Leigh in '14 and '15 did is that a coincidence?

And just to cap off if you remember the Salford team and style of football that got them to the GF and CC final and in the manner and type of football they played is that more the style of the present Huddersfield way or Salford way? 

All in my opinion of course.

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13 hours ago, Damien said:

Winning Grand finals in a champion team proves nothing.

I think the opposite, I think he gets hyped up because he is French. Bosc was similar.

I don't see your comparison with Field and French at all.

We just disagree on our opinions of him as a player. It's no big deal.

I have watched Huddersfield a few times this season as a complete neutral observer and he has impressed me - not a superstar but a really important component of the team. Most tellingly, in all of those games that I watched (all of which they won) the Huddersfield pack was dominant. In my experience of watching RL there are very few instances that I can recall where a half back shone behind a beaten pack.

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3 hours ago, The Future is League said:

My point exactly. Croft would have continued to run the ragged and as they got more tired the Red Devils would have run in more points

No in your original post you said they would be in a relegation struggle, I am saying they certainly won’t be. 

Although I cant see them coming 3rd the way Leeds are going and if Tony Smith can revive Hull 

 

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Just watching the game back now on C4.... brilliant from Hicks when Brierley is about to get sin-binned and calls the captain's over. Greenwood walks over and Hicks says "go away mate" not realising that Greenwood was the captain.😂 (TBH I thought it odd at the time as well as said to my mate "why's Greenwood getting involved?").

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