37 of 42 back IMG’s proposal

[Hull Kingston Bronco]

2 hours ago, Man of Kent said:

Completely to do with RL and nothing to do with RL.

Full marks for creativity but the story could be applied to any sport. 

Er, yes, but to be fair it's directly relevant to this thread..!!

[The 4 of Us]

1 hour ago, The Phantom Horseman said:

They're not, and nobody, including in this thread, has suggested otherwise.

“Rumours are at least one Championship club will replace a Super League club.”

?

[The Phantom Horseman]

4 minutes ago, The 4 of Us said:

“Rumours are at least one Championship club will replace a Super League club.”

?

You seem to have assumed that this would take place prior to the 2023 season for some reason.

[The 4 of Us]

12 minutes ago, The Phantom Horseman said:

You seem to have assumed that this would take place prior to the 2023 season for some reason.

You seem to have assumed that it doesn’t relate to the 2023 season for some reason. 

[The Phantom Horseman]

18 minutes ago, The 4 of Us said:

You seem to have assumed that it doesn’t relate to the 2023 season for some reason. 

You're the one going out on a limb by even bringing up the subject that it might. Genuinely not sure if I'm missing some attempt at humour or if you really thought Man Of Kent's post was suggesting they were going to abruptly turf a SL club out in February.

Edited December 15, 2022 by The Phantom Horseman

[del capo]

 There will be promotion and relegation for season 2023 so yes a Championship club is bound to be replacing a Super League club.

The gradings will be worked out formally during 2024. If there are any A's stuck in the Championship at that stage and B's in SL then 2025 will be a different picture....

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Harry Stottle said:

If IMG have an actual favourite in the Championship that they want to be part of SL, then the criteria will be set at a level that their favoured team can accomplish, but then the fun starts if a (some) SL clubs will be equal or even better suited to SL on present standings, grading has to be adjudged on where the clubs are at the time that the criteria is issued, completed and returned NOT some pie in the sky potential which may never be realised.

Will potential stand up in a court of law, for I can see that is where this could go by any club who would be overlooked in favour of a club not as deserving on actuallities in favour of supposed potential.

It will not stand up in a court if law. Not even CAS would hear this case. Pure desperation.

[Guest]

2 hours ago, ShropshireBull said:

I still don´t get this , really if there are multiple category b clubs in both divisions aren´t we still going to have p and r anyway with the lowest ranking b team replaced by highest b team league below. If not, what on earth is the point of playing the leagues or not just having a franchise system? This is so opaque and I think they are making a pig´s ear of this for champ sides and clubs in SL. If a champ team is cat b but doesn´t get promotion to a lower placed cat b in champ then what the hell is going to happen. 

I also don´t understand this obsession with social media , yes there should be a minimum put it can´t be monetized as much as people think.

You don't understand the obsession with social media in an era dominated by social media and the internet. Truly remarkable.

[RigbyLuger]

5 hours ago, Man of Kent said:

Mick Gledhill (usual caveat applies) says TV viewing figures, social media numbers, web hits, crowds, turnover/finance all expected to be part of the criteria when IMG announces them in February. Provisional grading to be announced in July.

Rumours are at least one Championship club will replace a Super League club.

When the site this forum is attached to reports on those rumours from that "journalist" they lose a lot of credibility.

[Harry Stottle]

2 hours ago, NW10LDN said:

It will not stand up in a court if law. Not even CAS would hear this case. Pure desperation.

I am not desperate, I am just looking for a level playing field for all clubs to be adjudged, you seem to miss the point what a club who missing out on SL stands to lose, they would be fighting tooth and nail if they believe they were stood down in preference for another who got favourable treatment over them.

I wouldn't bet against it being taken further should that happen (club chairmen are used to dealing with legals and would take the appropriate advice) and I would not blame any club for doing so even if it meant scuppering IMG's plans.

[Man of Kent]

2 hours ago, RigbyLuger said:

When the site this forum is attached to reports on those rumours from that "journalist" they lose a lot of credibility.

In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king

[Oxford]

“There are only four A clubs but 14 Bs, meaning six miss out. The big rumour is there is a Championship club replacing a current Super League club.”

If this happens RL doesn't deserve to be followed by anyone.

[GUBRATS]

29 minutes ago, Oxford said:

“There are only four A clubs but 14 Bs, meaning six miss out. The big rumour is there is a Championship club replacing a current Super League club.”

If this happens RL doesn't deserve to be followed by anyone.

If that were to be the case therein lies the problem , who decides which 8 of the ' B's ' gets in ? 

[Adelaide Tiger]

2 hours ago, GUBRATS said:

If that were to be the case therein lies the problem , who decides which 8 of the ' B's ' gets in ? 

That is the big problem if the process just gives a ‘B’ grade to more clubs than can be accommodated in SL.  I pointed out many pages ago that each club should be given a numerical score within the grade that they are awarded.

For example - if the criteria has a total score of 100 then Grade A is awarded to clubs scoring between 80 - 100.  Grade B is awarded to those clubs scoring between 60 - 80.  If there are more Grade B clubs than what can be accommodated in SL then simply award SL status to those clubs that scored most points within the Grade B category.

I understand that even this system can be manipulated if some criteria have a greater weighting than others but at least you will be able to see how each club scored in each category.

Edited December 15, 2022 by Adelaide Tiger

[The Future is League]

12 hours ago, Tommygilf said:

That's not even possible for next season (as a result of Grading Criteria).

Correct, but Castleford must be on borrowed time as regard their ground

[The Future is League]

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/london-broncos-super-league-img-28743680

IMG are on this money with this.

10s of 1000's of young athletic people who would make more than useful Rugby League players if given the chance.

[Big Picture]

30 minutes ago, The Future is League said:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/london-broncos-super-league-img-28743680

IMG are on this money with this.

10s of 1000's of young athletic people who would make more than useful Rugby League players if given the chance.

Why would those young athletic boys want to play a sport where all of London's opponents are from places they either don't know or don't rate as the sort of places where big time major sport would be played???

[Tommygilf]

9 hours ago, GUBRATS said:

If that were to be the case therein lies the problem , who decides which 8 of the ' B's ' gets in ? 

The same people who decide what grade you get?

[Archie Gordon]

3 hours ago, Big Picture said:

Why would those young athletic boys want to play a sport where all of London's opponents are from places they either don't know or don't rate as the sort of places where big time major sport would be played???

This is daft for two reasons.

First, no kid thinks or says this.

Second, kids introduced to the game down here are playing against other teams from the South.

[Tommygilf]

3 hours ago, Big Picture said:

Why would those young athletic boys want to play a sport where all of London's opponents are from places they either don't know or don't rate as the sort of places where big time major sport would be played???

Because being a professional sportsman is very attractive for young lads.

Lets be honest the main difficulty is getting them playing in the first place, not then convincing them to consider a career.

[GUBRATS]

1 hour ago, Tommygilf said:

The same people who decide what grade you get?

The word ' fix ' comes to mind 

[Man of Kent]

How are IMG going to fudge it to include London?

[Harry Stottle]

12 hours ago, GUBRATS said:

If that were to be the case therein lies the problem , who decides which 8 of the ' B's ' gets in ? 

That is what is totally stupid about these gradings why just stick to the 3 'A', 'B' and 'C' and then say some are upper Grade 'B's and some lower grade, be as transparent as possible and have say 6 or 7 levels, each club will no where they stand and more importantly know what they have to do to reach the next level.

[Roughyed Rats]

1 hour ago, Man of Kent said:

How are IMG going to fudge it to include London?

Easy. Make one of the criteria potential supporter numbers & demographic. If they want them in, they'll find a way. It's the only way they are going to make money......and P&L is all that they are interested in.  

[GUBRATS]

8 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

That is what is totally stupid about these gradings why just stick to the 3 'A', 'B' and 'C' and then say some are upper Grade 'B's and some lower grade, be as transparent as possible and have say 6 or 7 levels, each club will no where they stand and more importantly know what they have to do to reach the next level.

Because that might not get them who they want Harry