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Sat 12th Nov: RLWC SF: England v Samoa KO 14:30


Who will win?  

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  1. 1. Who will win?

    • England by 13 points or more
      62
    • England by 7 to 12 points
      47
    • England by 1 to 6 points
      11
    • Samoa by 1 to 6 points
      5
    • Samoa by 7 to 12 points
      2
    • Samoa by 13 points or more
      3

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Whitehead was outstanding. Makinson same. Can’t criticise Hill or Burgess. Basically came down to bad mistakes in defence and not enough cutting edge up front. Good interview with Wane. I do rate the guy. The inexperience of Welsby showed and lack of pace from Micky McIlorum suggested that Ackers on the bench might have made a difference. Radley one bad mistake but otherwise excellent and made Morgan Knowles look poor. A naive performance but a great deal of spirit to get it back to 26 all. Devastated really

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4 minutes ago, Chrispmartha said:

Samoa beating Australia would be huge for the game

Samoa will not beat Aus. Would love them to make a game of it, but a team that lost by 50+ to Eng and then squeezed past an Eng team who made key mistakes is not going to trouble Aus. Aus will be 2 or 3 scores up by half time.

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Just now, Chrispmartha said:

The English game/player pool is inferior, getting to the WC final wouldn’t change that.

it really isn’t a disaster more of a wake up call

Come on mate, we've been having wake up calls since 1982. 

Until the dynamic of RL changes, as in depth of players and areas the game is played in, that won't change either.

You'll have to excuse me, I'm sick. 

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Bottom line is that Samoa were marginally the better team on the ight and deserved to win. But the problem for the final is that it was the worst England performance of the tournament by far, and the best Samoan performance. So whereas England could, theoretically, have raised their game next week, it's hard to see past a comfortable 30+ point win for the Aussies over Samoa.

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2 minutes ago, The Masked Poster said:

Come on mate, we've been having wake up calls since 1982. 

Until the dynamic of RL changes, as in depth of players and areas the game is played in, that won't change either.

You'll have to excuse me, I'm sick. 

But SL was supposed to put us on a par with Australia and New Zealand,still waiting.

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3 minutes ago, Chrispmartha said:

The English game/player pool is inferior, getting to the WC final wouldn’t change that.

it really isn’t a disaster more of a wake up call

The single greatest message from this World Cup is that to succeed you need as many NRL players in your squad as possible.

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1 minute ago, N2022 said:

Samoa will not beat Aus. Would love them to make a game of it, but a team that lost by 50+ to Eng and then squeezed past an Eng team who made key mistakes is not going to trouble Aus. Aus will be 2 or 3 scores up by half time.

And to clarify, to avoid an argument that aired near the start of the tournament, by scores I don't mean drop goals, I mean converted tries.

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Just now, N2022 said:

Samoa will not beat Aus. Would love them to make a game of it, but a team that lost by 50+ to Eng and then squeezed past an Eng team who made key mistakes is not going to trouble Aus. Aus will be 2 or 3 scores up by half time.

Samoa also made key mistakes and conceded a huge amount of penalties.  Samoa were brilliant in that game, I'm sure when the dust settles people will realise that.

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2 minutes ago, N2022 said:

Samoa will not beat Aus. Would love them to make a game of it, but a team that lost by 50+ to Eng and then squeezed past an Eng team who made key mistakes is not going to trouble Aus. Aus will be 2 or 3 scores up by half time.

I do fear Samoa will get battered. They scraped past an awful England team who did their best to lose that match. Australia won't show such mercy.

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Let's give credit to Samao They stopped England playing and forced them into errors. Other sides such as PNG, France stood back.

Players such as Jerome Luai are double winners in the NRL as are others. They were never going to be in awe of England and do the same. 

I thought England played a game from 5-10 years ago and haven't progessed with Wane.

Samoa also played the tournament better than England, progeessing as they went along. 

I actually think it is great for the game to have a country as small as Samoa in the final. It's something union have never done and we should promote this as much as we can. 

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3 minutes ago, The Masked Poster said:

Come on mate, we've been having wake up calls since 1982. 

Until the dynamic of RL changes, as in depth of players and areas the game is played in, that won't change either.

You'll have to excuse me, I'm sick. 

England winning this game then probably getting beaten by Australia wouldnt change that.

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Just now, Wendigo7 said:

Horrific result. 
Im not watching the cricket tomorrow because I know, knowing England, what will happen. 🥺🤢

BBC sport headline 'England fans gutted by defeat in Auckland' (Women's RU) can now be joined by 'England fans gutted by defeat in London'. Guess those will be down by the time the cricket one would appear. Actually more confident for that, but do wonder whether we have a mentality problem in team sports to choke at big tournaments.

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Massive result for international rugby league. The development of Tonga and Samoa in recent years has been superb and here’s the rewards. 

If that’s not a massive reason as to why we need the mid-season internationals in the Southern Hemisphere and why England need to actually play international rugby league, I don’t know what else is?

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