Oldham..,

[The Art of Hand and Foot]

23 minutes ago, sheddingswasus said:

Guys, this is about Oldham. These arguments should be in the img thread. 

There in lies the problem SWU, as with many threads, there is a crossover. Fordy and Bill Quinn have taken up the IMG challenge and run with it. It's a pity that there are no points for biggest improvements,  for surely Oldham would be getting top marks for that.

[Trojan Horse]

1 hour ago, Click said:

You should probably look into the thread that has almost reached 300 pages. It has been well talked about in there that London does not get full points for catchment/location. 

So please tell me again how London is benefitting from this?

Why did you ask then just to come up with a response like that. What a pain. 
 

I did say I believed but I’m not certain or did you neglect to read that. I’m not above being wrong or admitting that when I am but I’d rather not have to repeat myself because you’re trying to be facetious. 

[OriginalMrC]

2 minutes ago, Trojan Horse said:

Why did you ask then just to come up with a response like that. What a pain. 
 

I did say I believed but I’m not certain or did you neglect to read that. I’m not above being wrong or admitting that when I am but I’d rather not have to repeat myself because you’re trying to be facetious. 

To be fair it was you who hijacked the thread with a load of nonsense about London so I don't know what you expected. 

Anyway back on topic, well done Oldham.

[sheddingswasus]

46 minutes ago, The Art of Hand and Foot said:

There in lies the problem SWU, as with many threads, there is a crossover. Fordy and Bill Quinn have taken up the IMG challenge and run with it. It's a pity that there are no points for biggest improvements,  for surely Oldham would be getting top marks for that.

Happy to discuss how IMG affects Oldham 

[Trojan Horse]

4 minutes ago, OriginalMrC said:

To be fair it was you who hijacked the thread with a load of nonsense about London so I don't know what you expected. 

Anyway back on topic, well done Oldham.

Fair, perhaps I did somewhat. It was meant to link in with Oldham initially but it’s tailed off between a few of our conversations. 
 

As you say, back to Oldham.

i may check out their socials to offer a bit of support in numbers and won’t hurt to catch a few games on playback if I have some spare time. 

I see they are trying to sign Marty Ashurst. He would be a good signing for them. Ultimate professional and highly consistent.
 

They seems very serious about building a competitive team for next season. 

[Click]

15 minutes ago, Trojan Horse said:

Why did you ask then just to come up with a response like that. What a pain. 
 

I did say I believed but I’m not certain or did you neglect to read that. I’m not above being wrong or admitting that when I am but I’d rather not have to repeat myself because you’re trying to be facetious. 

Because as a London fan, I am fed up of people that no nothing about London or RL in London putting opinions based off of made up facts. 

I won't keep replying as this has drifted far enough away from Oldham.

[JM2010]

It’s good to see Oldham on the up. Hopefully they’ll be up there challenging in the not too distant future. A hotbed for the game. If they can engage with the local community game and maybe even push into Manchester then it can only be a positive for the game 

[Wakefield Ram]

19 hours ago, sheddingswasus said:

Oldham would. 

No, really they won't. Keighley did exactly what you have done two seasons ago.

It will take a lot of money to sustain success in the Championship. SL don't want the likes of Oldham in SL. 

[Damien]

1 minute ago, Wakefield Ram said:

No, really they won't. Keighley did exactly what you have done two seasons ago.

It will take a lot of money to sustain success in the Championship. SL don't want the likes of Oldham in SL. 

I don't know about that. I think SL wants big, well financed clubs playing in decent facilities in front of good crowds. I'm not saying Oldham are there yet but they have made a great start in progressing towards that and certainly have the potential to tick those boxes.

[dkw]

3 hours ago, sheddingswasus said:

Guys, this is about Oldham. These arguments should be in the img thread. 

Its the same 3 or 4 people with their tin foil hats on that bring their inane nonsense to every thread. This site is terrible for it at the moment barely any decent threads to go through.

[Eddie]

39 minutes ago, Damien said:

I don't know about that. I think SL wants big, well financed clubs playing in decent facilities in front of good crowds. I'm not saying Oldham are there yet but they have made a great start in progressing towards that and certainly have the potential to tick those boxes.

What sort of crowds do you (or anyone) think Oldham would get after two or three seasons in SL? I know there’s a lot of guess work involved, I’d go 3,000. 

[Wakefield Ram]

34 minutes ago, Damien said:

I don't know about that. I think SL wants big, well financed clubs playing in decent facilities in front of good crowds. I'm not saying Oldham are there yet but they have made a great start in progressing towards that and certainly have the potential to tick those boxes.

Which is exactly where Keighley were 2 years ago. I'm pleased for Oldham that they are doing well. But there are plenty of clubs years ahead of Oldham with any idea of SL. 

[Eddie]

12 minutes ago, Wakefield Ram said:

Which is exactly where Keighley were 2 years ago. I'm pleased for Oldham that they are doing well. But there are plenty of clubs years ahead of Oldham with any idea of SL. 

To be fair Oldham have a SL ready stadium and seem to have some serious investors - which are massive strings to their bow if they want to get into SL. Clubs like Widnes and Halifax have one but not the other, Bradford, Fev and Sheffield neither as far as I’m aware. I’d have Oldham ahead of any of those five in my list of clubs likely to be in SL in 2027, as long as Ford and his consortium stick around. 

[Damien]

21 minutes ago, Wakefield Ram said:

Which is exactly where Keighley were 2 years ago. I'm pleased for Oldham that they are doing well. But there are plenty of clubs years ahead of Oldham with any idea of SL. 

Oldham play in a far better stadium, Oldham is a far bigger town with a far more developed junior game and have a larger fanbase, albeit latent, to tap into. As far as I know they have greater backing too. I think the potential is far greater than Keighley

[Damien]

25 minutes ago, Eddie said:

What sort of crowds do you (or anyone) think Oldham would get after two or three seasons in SL? I know there’s a lot of guess work involved, I’d go 3,000. 

No idea but with solid backing and a fair team I see no reason why they wouldn't be exceeding the Huddersfield and Salford's of this world.

[JM2010]

1 hour ago, Damien said:

I don't know about that. I think SL wants big, well financed clubs playing in decent facilities in front of good crowds. I'm not saying Oldham are there yet but they have made a great start in progressing towards that and certainly have the potential to tick those boxes.

I agree. Oldham is a big town, with a strong community game, nice stadium, potential for big crowds and well financed 

[OriginalMrC]

54 minutes ago, Wakefield Ram said:

Which is exactly where Keighley were 2 years ago. I'm pleased for Oldham that they are doing well. But there are plenty of clubs years ahead of Oldham with any idea of SL. 

Oldham have a bigger population, better stadium, more money and more history than Keighley. They aren't SL ready yet by any means but the potential is there. They are probably 1 of about 5-10 clubs that have the potential to make SL longer term.

[The Art of Hand and Foot]

On 11/03/2023 at 22:46, The Art of Hand and Foot said:

Now, this is conjecture. But supposing, just supposing Oldham played in a stadium compatible with SL!? It's got the population, the local amateur infrastructure! Oh, did I mention the history? How important is Oldham  to the development of the greatest game? Joseph Platt, son of Oldham, Father of Rugby League!? Oldham, the home, for the first 35 years. of Northern Rugby Football Union/ Rugby Football League!? The only thing missing, then, is performance. Winning games, promotion. If you think crowd attendance would be a problem, then No. Build it and they will come! #Sleeping giant!

I give you my original post that started this thread. Well before any of this was announced. It was all conjecture  of course. Look at my last sentence.  It's looking more and more like reality. 

[Jill Halfpenny fan]

Oldham have come on leaps and bounds from a couple of seasons back but how they cope with the next step is going to be interesting. The championship is a massive step up and I've watched plenty of the current Oldham team fail to set it alight previously. Attendance wise they must of increased their own support massively this season and the question is can they take it to the next step. If they can average over 2,000 next season they'll be one of the better supported clubs in the championship. There are then two questions to be asked. If Oldham don't go too well will they still get the support. If Oldham do go well they'll hit IMG's glass ceiling, how will the fans react to that. Interesting times if your an Oldham fan.

[roughyed8]

4 hours ago, Eddie said:

What sort of crowds do you (or anyone) think Oldham would get after two or three seasons in SL? I know there’s a lot of guess work involved, I’d go 3,000. 

Double that and more.

[Eddie]

3 hours ago, roughyed8 said:

Double that and more.

Well I’d be as amazed and chuffed at the same time if that’s right. 

[Tommygilf]

38 minutes ago, Eddie said:

Well I’d be as amazed and chuffed at the same time if that’s right. 

So would I as, according to the RL Project, Oldham have only recorded 3 seasons ever with average crowds over 5,000 (and those were below 6,000), and they were over 30 years ago...

[Eddie]

8 hours ago, Tommygilf said:

So would I as, according to the RL Project, Oldham have only recorded 3 seasons ever with average crowds over 5,000 (and those were below 6,000), and they were over 30 years ago...

There is a penchant on this forum for people to over estimate potential crowds when they get excited about clubs, I remember repeatedly being told Toulouse would average 10k in SL, the evidence being that it’s much bigger than Perpignan. 

[The Art of Hand and Foot]

I think it's fair to say, depending on results, that next season we will be getting 2,000- 3,000 at BP. Not only because of local fans but because of the the bigger championship clubs. I'm pretty certain the likes of Fev, Halifax and Bradford will bring bring a sizeable contingent over the hill. Then there is boundary park, it's easily accessable, straight off the motorway, no messing about, M62 and A627M and you're there. Then there's the novelty factor, most away fans have only ever seen us play at whitebank or Stalyvegas. Here we are in an old but new stadium. If we should be lucky enough to draw a superleague team in the cup at home, we can actually host them at home. I'm confident for next season.

[Jill Halfpenny fan]

2 hours ago, The Art of Hand and Foot said:

I think it's fair to say, depending on results, that next season we will be getting 2,000- 3,000 at BP. Not only because of local fans but because of the the bigger championship clubs. I'm pretty certain the likes of Fev, Halifax and Bradford will bring bring a sizeable contingent over the hill. Then there is boundary park, it's easily accessable, straight off the motorway, no messing about, M62 and A627M and you're there. Then there's the novelty factor, most away fans have only ever seen us play at whitebank or Stalyvegas. Here we are in an old but new stadium. If we should be lucky enough to draw a superleague team in the cup at home, we can actually host them at home. I'm confident for next season.

I wouldn't raise your hopes too much for sizeable away followings.