Gomersall Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 15 minutes ago, Blind side johnny said: Unfortunately, Cornwall is very expensive for clubs to visit - not quite as costly as Toulouse but still a lot of money. C1 and Championship clubs are really struggling this year and, "heartlands" or not will always look to their own self-interest when they actually fear for their own survival. Toulouse is free isn’t it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbe Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 If you check Companies House, Cornwall accounts don't make pretty reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleD Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 11 minutes ago, newbe said: If you check Companies House, Cornwall accounts don't make pretty reading In what sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbe Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 1 hour ago, DoubleD said: In what sense? Liabilities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleD Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 (edited) 26 minutes ago, newbe said: Liabilities All relative I suppose. £300k liabilities is probably not hugely significant if the owners are comfortable taking over Truro. I’m not sure what you’re expecting from a 3 year old club based in a virgin area for the game. As an aside, Harlequins RU had liabilities of £4.8m at their year end. Edited January 2 by DoubleD 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 1 hour ago, newbe said: If you check Companies House, Cornwall accounts don't make pretty reading Lots of clubs' accounts have ridiculous amounts of debt. It's how the wacky world of sport works. 2 "We'll sell you a seat .... but you'll only need the edge of it!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whippet13 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 2 minutes ago, DoubleD said: All relative I suppose. £300k liabilities is probably not hugely significant if the owners are comfortable taking over Truro. I’m not sure what you’re expecting from a 3 year old club based in a virgin area for the game. As an aside, Harlequins RU had liabilities of £4.8m at their year end. Plus it does not say to whom that money is owed, it isn't HMRC or a trade creditor, so may well be due to the owners. Impossible to tell the correct position from the data as they don't need to post full accounts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigeon Lofter Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 9 minutes ago, DoubleD said: All relative I suppose. £300k liabilities is probably not hugely significant if the owners are comfortable taking over Truro. ..and that sum is probably split between several of their shareholders, so not a big deal. Taking control of the local soccer club and the ring-fenced millions that go with that acquisition to build the new stadium sounds like they are in a very enviable position! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 8 hours ago, Whippet13 said: Plus it does not say to whom that money is owed, it isn't HMRC or a trade creditor, so may well be due to the owners. Impossible to tell the correct position from the data as they don't need to post full accounts. Well, actually, if the debts are to connected parties, they are required to disclose that. "We'll sell you a seat .... but you'll only need the edge of it!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorks Tim Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 10 hours ago, Griff said: Well, actually, if the debts are to connected parties, they are required to disclose that. Haven't actually looked at the accounts but, if they are normal director loans into the company, there is no need for small companies to disclose any detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 (edited) Yes there is. If the loan is material. Have a look at Fev's accounts. Loans correctly reported. Edited January 3 by Griff "We'll sell you a seat .... but you'll only need the edge of it!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blind side johnny Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 23 hours ago, Gomersall said: Toulouse is free isn’t it? No. Sport, amongst other things, is a dream-world offering escape from harsh reality and the disturbing prospect of change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anita Bath Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 So Cornwall were ‘asked’ to stand down from 1895 cup because teams didnt want to travel there. Newcastle are now giving up the home advantage for their game v Wakefield and playing the game next door to Wakefield. How can the RFL get things so wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Click Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 57 minutes ago, Anita Bath said: So Cornwall were ‘asked’ to stand down from 1895 cup because teams didnt want to travel there. Newcastle are now giving up the home advantage for their game v Wakefield and playing the game next door to Wakefield. How can the RFL get things so wrong? Aren't Newcastle willingly giving up home advantage so they can try and make more money by getting more spectators in a ground closer to Wakefield? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Just now, Click said: Aren't Newcastle willingly giving up home advantage so they can try and make more money by getting more spectators in a ground closer to Wakefield? They aren't giving up home advantage. Their home ground is Post Office Road next week "We'll sell you a seat .... but you'll only need the edge of it!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Click Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 10 minutes ago, Griff said: They aren't giving up home advantage. Their home ground is Post Office Road next week Sure, having their name on the scoreboard first makes them the home team. But they are giving up home advantage by not playing at their home stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 6 minutes ago, Click said: Sure, having their name on the scoreboard first makes them the home team. But they are giving up home advantage by not playing at their home stadium. Clubs can play their own fixtures where they choose, so long as the ground is up to scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 18 minutes ago, Click said: Sure, having their name on the scoreboard first makes them the home team. But they are giving up home advantage by not playing at their home stadium. In this instance, exactly what advantage are they giving up? I might be a bit peeved if I was a Newcastle supporter but I'd cut them a bit of slack after their experience in the last few months. "We'll sell you a seat .... but you'll only need the edge of it!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Click Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 3 minutes ago, Griff said: In this instance, exactly what advantage are they giving up? I might be a bit peeved if I was a Newcastle supporter but I'd cut them a bit of slack after their experience in the last few months. Yeah, I fully understand why Newcastle have done it - as I said, they are looking to make more money from getting more people through the gates at POR then they would at home at Kingston Park. In this particular instance, perhaps there isn't much of an advantage to give up as most of their players probably aren't all that familiar with Kingston Park with how young the squad is, but generally speaking - that is the advantage they are losing. Not being at home, playing on a pitch they may be more familiar with than POR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Click Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 19 minutes ago, Spidey said: Clubs can play their own fixtures where they choose, so long as the ground is up to scratch Yes, I haven't said they can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del capo Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 21 minutes ago, Spidey said: Clubs can play their own fixtures where they choose, so long as the ground is up to scratch No they cannot. They must play at their 'Home ' venue. If that pitch is unavailable , and Kingston Park isn't on 18 th Feb., then they can apply to the RFL to change the venue. That can include the opponents own field., or anywhere else that fits the standards. Thunder have behaved perfectly properly. Their facebook page on 1st Feb explains how it all came about and the reason for asking Featherstone for help. As an aside the gate receipts remain Thunders. And being close to Wakefield should be decent . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worzel Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 On 03/01/2024 at 07:46, Griff said: Well, actually, if the debts are to connected parties, they are required to disclose that. Which Cornwall do, I just checked. £330k is owed to related group parties... so bound to be to the Directors, just via Directors' other companies rather than personally I would imagine (the tax efficient way of organising things). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Future is League Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 On 04/01/2024 at 03:13, Blind side johnny said: No. Do Toulouse pay any expenses for visiting teams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 2 hours ago, del capo said: No they cannot. They must play at their 'Home ' venue. If that pitch is unavailable , and Kingston Park isn't on 18 th Feb., then they can apply to the RFL to change the venue. That can include the opponents own field., or anywhere else that fits the standards. Thunder have behaved perfectly properly. Their facebook page on 1st Feb explains how it all came about and the reason for asking Featherstone for help. As an aside the gate receipts remain Thunders. And being close to Wakefield should be decent . Okay - i should have added should circumstances dictate - i was just making the point they've done nothing wrong 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEANO Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Glad I never pre booked train fare and hotel to Newcastle sometimes you have to take a step backwards to move forward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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