England v Tonga series

[DoubleD]

9 minutes ago, Chrispmartha said:

Why’s there no seating plan/map for the Headingley game 

I wondered that, it's the only ground which doesn't have it............yet does for Rhinos games. Very odd and irritating

[DoubleD]

14 hours ago, Damien said:

New sponsor for the back of the Engalnd jerseys. A few days before the first game speaks volumes:

 

So we've gone from Ronseal as a sponsor for our national team to University of Central Lancashire . Says it all about the international game

[Eddie]

11 minutes ago, DoubleD said:

So we've gone from Ronseal as a sponsor for our national team to University of Central Lancashire . Says it all about the international game

Do you know how much either Ronseal or UCL have paid for their sponsorship? If UCL are paying more then what’s the problem. 

[DoubleD]

1 minute ago, Eddie said:

Do you know how much either Ronseal or UCL have paid for their sponsorship? If UCL are paying more then what’s the problem. 

Firstly, I highly doubt a university, who announced their sponsorship 3 days before a series, have paid more than an established brand such as Ronseal.

Secondly, brand affiliation matters a lot. I could go on at length, but it would take the thread off at a tangent and probably worth setting up a separate thread if you wished to discuss further

[Tommygilf]

8 minutes ago, Eddie said:

Do you know how much either Ronseal or UCL have paid for their sponsorship? If UCL are paying more then what’s the problem. 

Its UCLan, UCL would be a weird new university sponsor

[HawkMan]

11 minutes ago, Eddie said:

Do you know how much either Ronseal or UCL have paid for their sponsorship? If UCL are paying more then what’s the problem. 

The " problem " is either the RFL marketing department tried their best to get recognisable sponsorship for the national team and nobody was interested,  except UCLan, or they didn't didn't do their jobs properly and didn't try very hard to get better. Sad indictment either way.

Edited October 19, 2023 by HawkMan

[crashmon]

36 minutes ago, DoubleD said:

So we've gone from Ronseal as a sponsor for our national team to University of Central Lancashire . Says it all about the international game

I think UCL is perfect.  Its a local university situated in the M62 for the M62 Trophy between England and Tonga. My only sadness is that its not Leeds Met rather than UCL who are in Preston

Maybe if you try and expand the International team outside the M62 for one of the games you might get a national sponser, but if your restricting the games into one region then your only going to get regional spnosers

Edited October 19, 2023 by crashmon

[Eddie]

46 minutes ago, DoubleD said:

Firstly, I highly doubt a university, who announced their sponsorship 3 days before a series, have paid more than an established brand such as Ronseal.

Secondly, brand affiliation matters a lot. I could go on at length, but it would take the thread off at a tangent and probably worth setting up a separate thread if you wished to discuss further

It does, but football teams choose Asian betting firms that nobody has ever heard of as their sponsors because they pay far more than blue chip companies. They couldn’t care less what’s on their jerseys as long as the cash is flowing in, so why should the RFL?

[Josef K]

I am still waiting for my tickets to be delivered for the first test on Sunday!. 

[Damien]

20 minutes ago, Eddie said:

It does, but football teams choose Asian betting firms that nobody has ever heard of as their sponsors because they pay far more than blue chip companies. They couldn’t care less what’s on their jerseys as long as the cash is flowing in, so why should the RFL?

I admire your optimism but do you really think that is the case here? Do you really believe this is a conscious decision based on choice?

Maybe you are right and the RFL are overwhelmed with offers and UCLan are just paying far more than nationally established blue chip brands and all those Asian betting firms. I can't see it personally.

Edited October 19, 2023 by Damien

[Dave T]

All sponsors should be welcomed to the game, and we do have plenty of history with UCLan. 

But our ability to attract and then retain sponsors has to be a huge concern. And why would they stay? 

[nadera78]

I wouldn't be surprised if the England team is based at UCLAN - some teams were for the RLWC, they have a strong sports business department and I think a strong RL team - and the RFL are getting it free in return for a sponsors patch. 

Edited October 19, 2023 by nadera78

[Just Browny]

Whose map has Preston along the M62?

A university is a good prestigious sponsor and doesn't compare to the local chimney sweep*.

 

*genuine match sponsor heard at a recent Championship game.

[nadera78]

1 minute ago, Dave T said:

All sponsors should be welcomed to the game, and we do have plenty of history with UCLan. 

But our ability to attract and then retain sponsors has to be a huge concern. And why would they stay? 

Sponsoring the England RL team - that only plays 3 or 4 games pa, confined to small stadia in one region of the country, and (BBC match coverage excluded) with limited media coverage - is a very, very niche proposition. What's the return on it? It has to be very limited. 

[JohnM]

59 minutes ago, crashmon said:

I think UCL is perfect.  Its a local university situated in the M62 for the M62 Trophy between England and Tonga. My only sadness is that its not Leeds Met rather than UCL who are in Preston

Maybe if you try and expand the International team outside the M62 for one of the games you might get a national sponser, but if your restricting the games into one region then your only going to get regional spnosers

Can you imagine the outcry if non-existent Leeds Met were sponsors over London- based UCL, consistently ranked as one of the top ten universities in the world.

Edited October 19, 2023 by JohnM

[crashmon]

1 minute ago, JohnM said:

Can you imagine the outcry if Leeds Met were sponsors over London- based UCL?

PMSL... well done got me

I of course meant Uni of Central Lancashire lol

[JohnM]

Not forgetting Leeds Met, too.

[Tommygilf]

Just now, JohnM said:

Not forgetting Leeds Met, too.

Its Leeds Beckett now, which you can't spell without Btec and Ket??

[Dunbar]

As someone who captained the University of Central Lancashire to its first major Rugby League trophy, I don't think I should take all the credit for their subsequent sponsorship of our national team. 

Just most of it.

[bobbruce]

2 hours ago, Dave T said:

Absolutely. Wire don't just appeal as standard. The 1 match ban didn't affect us. It affected Williams and England. 

If England don’t pick him in the squad wouldn’t his ban carry over. 

[RigbyLuger]

1 hour ago, HawkMan said:

The " problem " is either the RFL marketing department tried their best to get recognisable sponsorship for the national team and nobody was interested,  except UCLan, or they didn't didn't do their jobs properly and didn't try very hard to get better. Sad indictment either way.

In a thread with people who aren't interesting in buying tickets, I wonder why sponsors wouldn't either, to use your analogy.

[wilsontown]

47 minutes ago, Josef K said:

I am still waiting for my tickets to be delivered for the first test on Sunday!. 

According to the e-mail I got, "If you have not received your tickets within seven days of the event, or within 48 hours of booking during the week of the event, please contact RFL Ticketing". I'd drop them a line.

[Bedfordshire Bronco]

52 minutes ago, Josef K said:

I am still waiting for my tickets to be delivered for the first test on Sunday!. 

I went electronic and have had them emailed now 

Worth ringing up 

I am sure once you land at ground they will sort of you don't have....think I had to lick mine up from office once 

I'd get their early though 

[Dave T]

49 minutes ago, nadera78 said:

Sponsoring the England RL team - that only plays 3 or 4 games pa, confined to small stadia in one region of the country, and (BBC match coverage excluded) with limited media coverage - is a very, very niche proposition. What's the return on it? It has to be very limited. 

Agreed. Sponsorships need to be exciting and aspirational. Sponsoring something that is going through the motions is not that attractive. 

[Dave T]

35 minutes ago, bobbruce said:

If England don’t pick him in the squad wouldn’t his ban carry over. 

I'd expect that as he has been named in the squad he would be able to use at least the first match, and if he couldn't use the others, it would be a pre season game. 

I don't think this is linked to matchday squad, as banned players don't feature in matchday squad. 

But in the current world, this should wipe his ban out, he can't play for England because he is banned, he then shouldn't have that doubled down by being banned for his club. 

None of that justifies the current process BTW